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To ID or Not to ID that is the question
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <3.0.2.32.19970605042555.00712ad0(a)mail.atl.bellsouth.net>, on 06/05/97 at 04:25 AM, "Robert A. Costner" <pooh(a)efga.org> said: >I'm curious where the people here stand on such a policy. Do you feel >that positive ID to fly on a plane should be permissable? How about a >law to put a stop to it? The answer to bad laws is not more laws. There are two separate issues here and it is important to separate the two: 1) Government mandated ID requirements for Airline Travel. This is truly evil. It violates several protected rights under the constitution and is just plain un-american. Who I am and where I go and how I get there is non of their dam business. 2) Individual Airlines requiring ID as part of there security protocols. This I have no problems with as it is there planes and they may adopt whatever security policies they wish. If Delta wishes to require full body cavity searches before boarding their planes more power to them. No one is forcing you to fly with them. There are many things that are forbiden for the Federal Governmnet to do that are acceptable for individual companies. This is a good example of just that. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM5bBG49Co1n+aLhhAQHPAQQAm9A0DUjzTyFWvXOeKO6+lDODQQ0lUoKI SjkQrvBwhfIU5SjLqO1bC6CVU9ad5Gn00PBuYj2JPxPJPT1PulaLKud3bA+1jy74 UTe/8gN+Iv534YheHFoabr3MlIvaeGFyiRJTnaKwX3UG/26v3RuoWA6k1Apzz8fC i78iHAvg7sc= =o0Qp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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My messages & CC: 's
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, For those of you that may be responding to some of my post you should be aware that the To: & Cc: lines are being modified. This is being done by my PGP auto-encrypt scripts. A complete distributution list is provided in the header of the message on the X-Distributution: line. This is just to make you aware that even though your address is the only one in the To: or Cc: lines the message may have been distributed to others including to one of the cypherpunks list. Please check the X-Distribution: line before assuming that it is a private correspondence. Thanks, - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM5bDE49Co1n+aLhhAQGUiQQAgQ8TF/Ww7Qt7HyAIUtkv7jY5QG32x20g T0miyjDAZ8qgA0QcjoTdt+JcJLexG76wdj5GR3XWdYtX24RyqUD3CNHPTnTufQmN fIebZOt+WcewQggB31jm5L+Vp7BiJfdzUuW90XVzM5yGSFjF91Rg/9KXFpe/a8Xv nCy/dTYQ0l8= =j3lG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Government money, Net picketing, and public fora (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 00:27:04 -0400 (EDT) > From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)pathfinder.com> > Subject: Government money, Net picketing, and public fora > Unfortunately, Jim has no idea what he's talking about. Accepting public > money does not magically turn something into a public forum. > > I'm not sure how I can get this idea through. Unfortunately, Declan has no idea what he's talking about. Accepting public money does increase the criminal and civil obligations of the recipient as well as providing a lever for 3rd parties to become involved on civil grounds. I'm not sure how I can get this idea through. _______________________________________________________________________ | | | Speak the truth, but leave immediately after. | | | | Slovenian Proverb | | | | Jim Choate ravage(a)ssz.com | | The Armadillo Group www.ssz.com | | Austin, Texas, USA 512-451-7087 | |_______________________________________________________________________|

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Password pirates plunder XXX sites, from The Netly News
by Donald E. Eastlake 3rd 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Although you can never completely eliminate it, technological fixes to do velocity checking, source IP address profiling, etc., seem so obvious I just don't see how this can be any sort of insurmountable problem... It should have been obvious from the start that you would have a lot more people trying to steal service from a porn site than from, say, a Disney site. Donald On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Robert Hettinga wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:47:10 -0400 > From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> > To: dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu > Subject: Password pirates plunder XXX sites, from The Netly News > > --- begin forwarded text > > Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 12:01:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Password pirates plunder XXX sites, from The Netly News > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> > X-Loop: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > > [We include links to sites with porn passwords in today's story, BTW. > --Declan] > > ******* > > http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1015,00.html > > The Netly News Network (http://netlynews.com/) > June 4, 1997 > > Porn Free > by Chris Stamper and Greg Lindsay (thenetlynews(a)pathfinder.com) > > Sexfilms.com used to be a small, members-only adult site > that shipped full-frame videos over a super-fast T-3 line. Traffic on > the site was comfortably low for about a year, owner Ray Alba says, > until one name -- "Joe Camaro" -- started appearing with some > frequency. Actually, it started appearing 500 times a minute. From > Sweden, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore -- just about anywhere. Somebody > was passing out the password. > > Download speeds faltered, from 300K/sec to 6K/sec. And then the > servers themselves began to crash. Finally, Alba had to shut down the > site for several weeks to clear out Camaro and numerous other accounts > that had leaked out to the Net. Alba was the latest victim of... Porn > Piratz! > > A huge number of passwords to pay-only porn sites are loose on > the Net. Just surf newsgroups like alt.sex.passwords or do a simple > search through a typical web engine and long lists of logins are easy > to find. Some of these logins are giveaways from people who ponied up > the low, one-time-only flat fees that many sites charge. Others, > apparently, were obtained with phony credit card numbers. Who knows > how Porn Piratz get the rest. But they do: A Hustler executive told us > that Hustler's sites have seven times its paid membership logging on > every day. > > [...] > > --- end forwarded text > > > > ----------------- > Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox > e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA > "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, > [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to > experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' > The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ > > > > For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to > "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". > ===================================================================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1 508-287-4877(tel) dee(a)cybercash.com 318 Acton Street +1 508-371-7148(fax) dee(a)world.std.com Carlisle, MA 01741 USA +1 703-620-4200(main office, Reston, VA) http://www.cybercash.com http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html

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IRS Hit
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

5 June 1997, NYP: A federal judge in Denver has awarded $250,000 in punitive damages to a woman whose family business was raided by armed Internal Revenue Service agents four weeks after the woman insulted an IRS agent. The revenue agents padlocked all three Kids Avenue clothing stores in Colorado Springs, and posted notices that some customers interpreted as evidence that the woman, Carole Ward, 49, was a drug smuggler. In a harshly worded 17-page opinion, Judge William Downes of the U.S. District Court in Denver found that one of the IRS agents, James Dolan, was "grossly negligent" and acted with "reckless disregard" for the law, and that he made three false statements in a sworn declaration. The judge, who said the actions by the IRS agents violated Ms. Ward's privacy rights, wrote that the punitive damages award "gives notice to the IRS that reprehensible abuse of authority by one of its employees cannot and will not be tolerated." ----- Full story at: http://jya.com/irshit.htm

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Re: IRS Hit
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <1.5.4.32.19970605134956.008db240(a)pop.pipeline.com>, on 06/05/97 at 08:49 AM, John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> said: >In a harshly worded 17-page opinion, Judge William Downes of the U.S. >District Court in Denver found that one of the IRS agents, James Dolan, >was "grossly negligent" and acted with "reckless disregard" for the law, >and that he made three false statements in a sworn declaration. So why is James Dolan still working for the IRS? Why is he not under enditement for perjury? Oh I forgot Federal Agents are "just a group of humans" so I guess we shouldn't expect the laws of the land to apply to them. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM5bMt49Co1n+aLhhAQGn0wQAuG0n4ppXx5QdtNQrrcB4drcbkbDkpcdV 0L28z5zWbbidfz2Mq8wS2HLG01NLPd/6NFDF8EYpezBfpGv9O3SIm3WvhbzhvJOP jEVGUZdNVM+RA3gAMzrBMoiEiIrFfaFO/3615dSHPLpa3NWmbf+QDnVRXFIO1Rxp kFttB1pjRjM= =Vx80 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Interesting article.
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Full story at http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,11249,00.html?latest Leaders want crypto rules lifted. By Reuters June 5, 1997, 7 a.m. PT WASHINGTON--Computer industry captains called on President Clinton yesterday to drop efforts to regulate data-encryption technologies, a move the FBI warned would cripple law enforcement and leave the country more vulnerable to terrorism. In an open letter to Clinton, Bill Gates, chairman and chief executive officer of Microsoft, and 12 other industry titans said U.S. competitiveness in electronic commerce was at stake in the debate. ---------------- Peter Trei

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RE: McVeigh? Nimrods.....
by Bill Frantz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:50 PM -0700 6/4/97, Paul Bradley wrote: >> Like my fellow Santa Clara County Resident Bill Frantz said : >> >> For cypherpunks this comes down to: Make code, not bombs. > >True, code will lead to further liberation in the virtual communities, >but bombs are an effective device for ending the corrupt tyrannical >government that rules us. It is my contention that, in the present circumstances, bombs are not effective devices for ending the corrupt tyrannical government which rules us. They are much more likely to make enemies for "our cause" than they are to physically stop the government. Does the phrase, "Bomb throwing anarchist" give you the feeling of hero, or of villain? Most people will answer villain, and killing people is not likely to change their minds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The Internet was designed | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | to protect the free world | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | from hostile governments. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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