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Important Announcement for Barron's Online Subscribers
by Barrons Online 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: PGP security problems?
by Carolyn Turbyfill 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The email forgeries using bogus PGP keys to give the appearance that the messages are from PGP, Inc. and our employees are the result of a sick, twisted mind. Perhaps someone thinks they are being funny, but I, for one, am not amused. In order for the internet to function in a coherent, meaningful manner, people need to be able to have assurance that the email they receive accurately reflects the true source of the message and be able to verify the identity of the writer by checking for a valid signature. I urge the person or persons doing this to stop. Immediately! After I send this message to the cypherpunks list and receive it back in my email, I'm going to check the signature and the headers on it and if it turns out to be a forgery, like the others, then I'm going to be really, really mad. Carolyn Turbyfill <turby(a)pgp.com> "I'm not wearing any panties." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBM7tNBu5XWImkXCQiEQLiggCfcJmJBkepBVEDtktoSMtTV97f0uoAoNCe 6IrX5/0nUBjpcIq24XtMFDlK =0CHj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: PGP security problems?
by Michael J. Iannamico 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Please be advised that the message sent to the cypherpunks list purporting to be from Carolyn Turbyfill <turby(a)pgp.com> was a forgery. The PGP signature on the file, apparently from Marc Briceno <mark(a)digicash.com> may have been a forgery, as well, since it is unlikely that Marc would know whether or not Carolyn wears panties. It may be that the forger quite simply made a lucky guess. Oh! Not that I've been peeking up the women's skirts at the office. I'm in therapy now, and all of that is behind me. I must have just heard it from someone else in the office. Not that we're a bunch of perverts who sit around talking about that kind of thing, mind you. (I'd better shut up while I still have a job.) Oh! I know. This message must be a forgery, too. Yes, that's it...this message is a _forgery_! It's not me writing it, its that sick, demented, cypherpunk forger. I'm not backsliding. I attend all the meetings and I am taking my medication regularly. It's the _forger_, I tell you...the _forger_!!! Michael J. Iannamico <mji(a)pgp.com> "I'm feeling much better now." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBM7tbH2vmZC203a9iEQJjjQCg1IICgkrGCdiydWAlqjbpoxQ5YEEAoNco CjhwCCVEz/ALHinvGNhJHvDT =sjFj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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We need more surveillance--a morality play about terrorism
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Some speculation about the current American attitudes about terrorism, about the changes in civil liberties to deal with the "terrorist threat," and even some comments about Jim Bell and his predicament.] I've been watching an HBO movie, "Path to Paradise," about the bombing of the World Trade Center in February 1993. It's quite well-done, as most HBO movies of this sort are. However, it is fairly heavy on a propaganda message which may give some insights into the likely changes in political freedoms in the United States. Some examples: * repeated examples of how the cops and FBI _could have_ arrested the Arabs if only the Constitution could be reinterpreted to allow arrests for possession of political pamphlets, guns (legally owned), etc. * "You mean Islamic radicals are free to preach their message of hate and violence? Unbelievable!" (This is a paraphrase...there were several such opinions expressed, where FBI managers express outrage that such things are permitted in the U.S.) * The niceties of getting wiretap orders were treated as ways to coddle criminals. * The ease with which citizen-units and others can order chemicals and suchlike was shown graphically, with the subtext being that this easy ordering ought to be stopped. (This was clear from the dramatic presentation.) * Unlike many such movies on criminal matters, there was very little discussion of civil rights, of the right of persons to move about freely, and so on. In short, a morality play about the hazards of letting people plot their crimes without proper surveillance. Not to sound conspiratorial, I suspect that this changed climate is consistent with the views of the FBI and White House, and that HBO is playing some role (unofficially, of course, and maybe not even consciously) in this new emphasis. (In the same way that the Rambo movies, to name just one example, resonated with American popular opinion in the Reagan era.) Speculation: This may also have something to do with the "no bail" predicament Bell now faces. The "stink bomb" he allegedly used in an IRS building could be Sarin gas, putatively, given the claims that he had Sarin precursors. Now we may mostly think he's harmless, but the combination of this new "let's get tough on terrorist plotters" mood, combined with the chemical stuff they found, his calls for killing of government agents, his apparent willingness to use chemical bombs (so the claim goes), all add up to a "get tough" outcome. Whether it stays this way past his arraignment in a few weeks is of course unknown. (Any magistrate or DA who watches this HBO movie might be wondering if releasing Bell would be turning him loose to launch a Sarin gas attack on his Fed enemies. I don't think this is a plausible threat, knowing what I know of Bell.) Something to think about. Between the World Trade Center bombing and OKC, there seem to be more people saying that certain civil liberties need to be given up to ensure security. Where have we heard this before? (Hint: back in Ben Franklin's day.) --Tim May, who's sorry he missed the display of firepower at the physical meeting today There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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by 52622216＠compuserve.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Responses to "Spam costs and questions" (long)
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On or About 6 Jun 97 at 23:41, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > If you set up your mailbox to accept e-mail promiscuously from > anyone, then anything sent to it is "consentual". Exactly. And if you put an e-mail address on a web-site, it's fair game. You consent to have me, at least, comment. > The onus is on the recipient to filter out what they don't want (or And not the onus of the Government to save us from the nasty bad evil spammers. > to "filter in" only what they want, which is how I think we'll end > up). Such filtering takes less time+effort than "repeated > cease-and-desist notes". Like any spammer listens to those anyway. I was sent so many of those when I started, it didn't scare me at all. But now I'm a reformed, kinder, gentler spammer. Most times they don't even know they've been spammed. On or About 7 Jun 97 at 13:53, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > talk about this (and I do hope Ross will will this of interest!), > let's You bet. I'm bummed that I missed out on this whole conversation, it's a week old now. On or About 7 Jun 97 at 13:53, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > Also instead of just building the biggest possible list of e-mail > addresses, they build a targeted database, keeping track where a > particular e-mail address was found. That's right. I've got different lists for the different places that I harvested them from. > Suppose a person subscribes to > a "porsche owners" mailing list, and goes to an investment- related > channel on one of the IRC servers. In no time he'll be getting "junk > e-mail" related to the interests he expressed - possibly even saying > "I'm writing you because I saw you on the #invest channel on > Tuesday, and I want to tell you about this hot new penny stock" > > Left to itself, the market will stabilize and the occasional > unsolicited bulk e-mail will be even less of a nuisance than it is > now. Please. I beg all of you just to let it settle it's self. No regulation is needed, or wanted. It's not that bad. On or About 7 Jun 97 at 13:37, Declan McCullagh wrote: > Such a law would be unconstitutional, I believe, and unjust. It's > compelled speech: the government forcing you to say something. I don't want anyone telling me what I have to put into the subject field of my bulk e-mailings. > Depending on how it's worded, it could also impact core political > speech, something the courts generally don't like. > > -Declan On or About 8 Jun 97 at 5:36, Declan McCullagh wrote: > I don't think commercial speech should be treated as second-class > speech. But my position is hardly surprising. > Declan, thanks. You are right that speech is speech. On or About 9 Jun 97 at 23:45, Kent Crispin wrote: And here's where it degrades into discussions about ads and sales tactics and all that stuff that the general public is so frightened of. It's like salesmen are the reviled, untouchables in our society. Needed but hated. These topics always fall to the level of the morals of given marketing strategies. That's not what this is about. It's about freedom to tell people about a product in any way that you can. > > When a tobacco company says in an ad, "Joe Camel is cool", what > > kind of contractual obligations does it assume? > > None. I did not say that all ads were part of a contract. > > > Have you ever bought a used car, Kent? Have you seen the language > > in the contract that throws out whatever promises the saleguy made > > that are not a part of the contract? > > Yes, but never from a used-car lot, always from people I know. I > have =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: (408) 259-2795

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Re: Impact of Netscape kernel hole
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On or About 13 Jun 97 at 18:35, Tom Weinstein wrote: > week for 4.0. A fix for 3.x will follow once we have 4.0 fixed. Saw this post to Cypherpunks. I hate to sound less than savvy, but I use 2.02. You guys are gonna help us who refuse to upgrade, right. Ross =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: (408) 259-2795

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Netscape Update
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Robert Hettinga wrote: > All this reminds me of something Tim May, Eric Hughes, and others have said > before. Once you've gotten to the point where loss of security equals, in a > very literal sense, loss of money, the incentive to publicize any given > security hole starts to go away. The Netscape PR department is no doubt preparing to spin the "bug fix" into a "major update." The fact of the matter is, the software does exactly what it was designed to do. The fact that those who are "out of the loop" found out how to use that designed feature does not make it a "bug." When the list got spammed with email from 10,000 Laker fans named "Bubba," I blasted plaidworks.com for their rudeness in trying to place all the blame on "hackers" when the fact was that they left their system wide open to abuse for the sake of convenience and profit. Similarly, the government and corporations want systems designed to allow them access to all available information passing through the internet system and then cry "abuse" or "security bug" when individuals discover how to use the design to their advantage. Calling the Netscape feature a "bug" merely serves to draw attention away from the fact that the software was intentionally designed in order to facilitate snooping (ala Clipper chip?) and that indicates that there have been people who have known how to take advantage of the feature since its implementation. Do the people who instituted the design and development of this snooping feature all have "Good Guy" stamped on their forhead? Sure they do... TruthMonger

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Re: We need more surveillance--a morality play about terrorism
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > I've been watching an HBO movie, "Path to Paradise," about the bombing of > the World Trade Center in February 1993. It's quite well-done, as most HBO > movies of this sort are. > > However, it is fairly heavy on a propaganda message which may give some > insights into the likely changes in political freedoms in the United > States. > In short, a morality play about the hazards of letting people plot their > crimes without proper surveillance. > > Not to sound conspiratorial, I suspect that this changed climate is > consistent with the views of the FBI and White House, and that HBO is > playing some role (unofficially, of course, and maybe not even consciously) > in this new emphasis. The movies have long been a source of propaganda for LEA's of all types and descriptions, as well as the military. You want co-operation? You want to get bargin rates on access to city (or military) facilities, streets, vehicles, etc? If so, then you'd better be prepared to present an "acceptable" script to those who make the decisions. The military and LEA's know that they are in a position to save movie producers millions of dollars through their co-operation and producers know that an acceptable script is the ante that may well make the difference between their movie being produced or canned. Cop shows are the rage on TV at present, and if you can find a major force of real-life cops that call everyone "Sir" and treat them like humans, I'll kiss your ass, but that's what we see on the Tube, anyway. It would cost a fucking fortune to produce a similar show which reflected the reality of how LEA's treat the citizens. I have a friend who was casting director for "Miami Vice" and I recall her telling me at an early point in the series that they were being forced, for financial reasons, to "clean up" the scripts so as to make the cops more sympathetic and reputable characters. Face it, we live in TV World. We didn't get an actor as our President by "accident." We elect "sound bytes" and "charisma." We elect "plausible deniability" and "non-smoking guns." We are sold fear and violence both as news and entertainment, and we "buy" it as our reality. Then our fear is used to sell us products such as loss of privacy and freedom. This is the consumer age, and it is driven by advertising and profit. In the Media Age the marketing term "find a need and fill it" has become "_create_ a need and fill it." There's big money in fear and violence. TruthMonger

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Re: Netscape Exploit
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tom Weinstein wrote: > Lucky Green wrote: > > > > >Here is a sample it isn't complete but you get the basic idea of what > > is > > >going on > > ><HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Evil-DOT-COM Homepage</TITLE><HEAD> ... > Yeah, that's pretty cool. Too bad it doesn't work. If you wanted a version that works you should have checked out the RCMP site that one of the Truth Mongers (or spin-offs) pointed to on the list a while back. It had a nifty bit of code which showed you the contents of your own hard drive and grabbed a copy for their own use. There was also a site on sympatico.ca which had the same code, only the link read "Click here to read the Whitehouse hard drive." If you followed further links on the site some would take a long time to load and if you paid attention you could guess that your hard drive was being accessed. I turned a friend onto the files I saved from the sites and I assume he hacked at least one of them to get the executables that they were running since he bought me a case of Budweiser for sharing the information with him. I have noticed in surfing a variety of hacker URLs that sometimes it takes an awfully long time to load what turns out to be a fairly simple screen and there is invariably a lot of disk activity going on in these instances. I don't worry about what may be taking place since I bought a used computer specifically for internet cruising so I can enjoy myself instead of fretting about security issues. I put a lot of files and directories on my hard drive with names like "Offthepigs" and "assass.plot" and cruised around the RCMP site from an anonymous account. I used the name of a local cop as the ostensible owner of the machine and author of the files. (I _do_ hope they were paying attention!) There was an article on computer security on the RCMP site which spoke quite openly about the potential of technology in general and remailers in specific for mounting sting operations. (I will try to dig up the URL for it and pass it along. It should be in the list archives too.) ~~~~~~~~~ Not a cop ~~~~~~~~~

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