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Re: The Big Sellout
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan McCullagh wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9707/15/cybersmut.ap/index.html > Computer industry to announce anti-smut initiatives > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hoping to avoid a V-chip for the Internet, the > computer industry will announce at the White House on Wednesday it > will provide greater access to anti-smut software and work to flag > Internet sites that are clean enough for kids. > White House officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, stressed > that in addition to the voluntary efforts for indecent or smutty > content, the government still will enforce vigorously provisions > making illegal any obscene materials carried on the Internet. Translation~~They will attempt to imprison people who are victims of those who voluntarily access their web sites and then complain to the authorities, despite the sight being clearly marked as a adult-oriented site. TruthMonger

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Re: CCTV Cameras in Britain (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:17:49 +0200 (MET DST) > Subject: Re: CCTV Cameras in Britain > From: nobody(a)REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) > Since an ounce of good marijuana costs $300.00 instead of merely > $3.00, it is profitable to not abide by the law. Don't know where you live but your street prices are about 300% too high... > TruthMonger ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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by candy＠mail2.24hrplaymates.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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White House "kinder, gentler"-CDA/censor empowerment meeting (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:03:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> > Subject: White House "kinder, gentler"-CDA/censor empowerment meeting > Below we see an excellent example of the naivete inherent in > Net-libertarian and cypherpunk writing. > Obviously the writer does not understand the complexities and challenges > of Washington politics ... a process that results in the compromises > so vital in a healthy democracy. I would like to see your proof that a healthy democracy requires compromise. This is truly the pot calling the kettle black in regards to mis-understanding the fundamental dynamics of 'healthy' democracies. > I can only conclude that because Mr. Finkelstein does not live inside the > Beltway, we cannot expect him to realize that it is always necessary to > remain players in the game -- even if it means giving up fundamental > liberties in the process. Declan, you are truly an idiot if you believe that you can obtain any sort of democracy, let along a healthy one, by giving up fundamental liberties. With friends like you we don't need enemies, we don't have to worry about them taking anything you are more than willing to give it away. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Microsoft will NOT ship browser with RSACi on by default
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 19:30:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Microsoft will NOT ship browser with RSACi on by default Microsoft called me a few hours ago and told me that -- despite reports to the contrary -- the company definitely will *not* ship the next version of Internet Explorer configured to block unlabeled sites out of the box. "The product is going to ship with Content Advisor off by default," said Mark Murray (mmurray(a)microsoft.com) My article at http://netlynews.com today had said: The next version of IE will default to displaying only properly labeled web pages, according to Ken Wasch, the president of the Software Publishers Association. This comes after previous reports that RSACi might be default-on: http://pathfinder.com/netly/editorial/0,1012,476,00.html http://pathfinder.com/netly/editorial/0,1012,740,00.html Kudos to Microsoft for doing the right thing. -Declan

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17 Dec '03

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If You Build It, They Will Con (fwd)
by Ray Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:09:05 -0400 From: "Anthony F. Navarro" <anavarro(a)inch.com> Subject: If You Build It, They Will Con >From the Netly News -Anthony July 15, 1997 If You Build It, They Will Con by Declan McCullagh Perhaps the thinking behind DefCon went something like this: Lure hundreds of hackers to Las Vegas in the middle of the summer, ply them with cheap beer, talk about packet sniffing, and observe. Last year the result was self-organizing chaos, capped by an event where the hired strippers were upstaged by a band of exhibitionist conferencegoers. "The pimp was like, 'Oh my God,'" says Dark Tangent, DefCon's organizer. Last weekend's fifth annual DefCon may have been a little less raucous, but it was no less important as a place where hackers from around the world gather to socialize, gamble -- and glance around furtively trying to spot the government agents who infiltrate the convention. (Bonus: If you guess correctly, you can take a prized "I Spotted the Fed" T-shirt home with you.) Naturally, DefCon has always been populated with a slew of specialized talks on "Hacking Novell Netware" and uses of "embedded microcontroller applications." But this year, speakers such as Richard Thieme spoke of finer points: For instance, how hackers should avoid merely imitating their predecessors' exploits. Instead, they should learn the intricacies of computer systems themselves. "This is really functioning as a call to excellence," Thieme says. Then there was Carolyn Meinel, who maintains the "Happy Hacker" mailing list. "You don't need to break the law to be a hacker," she told me. Maybe not, but the DefCon crowd -- mostly teenagers and twentysomethings -- wasn't listening. Some tried to pass counterfeit $20 bills when registering. ("We'll beat your ass," Dark Tangent warned afterward.) Others tried to snatch the DefCon banner from the convention hall. By the time the conference began, the hotel's antiquated phone system had been penetrated and instructions distributed on how to call long distance for free. The hotel's radio frequencies quickly appeared on the DefCon mailing list. On Friday evening, security guards booted two revelers after a hallway skirmish led to blows. And someone was carrying around a door to a GTE truck -- I never found out why. All of which might explain Las Vegas's growing reluctance to host the event. Dark Tangent says the convention has become virtually blackballed. "You're dicked. There's no place to go," he says. This year, Dark Tangent had to rename the convention "DC Communications" and take out $1 million in liability insurance. He also moved the conference to the Aladdin, a ramshackle hotel -- complete with faded purple carpets and cheesy lounge singers -- that seems the only venue now willing to risk hosting DefCon. Still, the Aladdin seemed a choice venue for Winn Schwartau, the "InfoWar" crooner whom many hackers love to hate. He showed up to host two rounds of Hacker Jeopardy. Teams of digerati took turns heckling Schwartau and competing in categories such as National Security for $300: "A: The two possible meanings of DOS. Q: What are Denial of Service or Disk Operating System?" Or, "A: The assistant director of the FBI who handled the TWA investigation and was behind the Clipper Chip. Q: Who is James Kallstrom?" Bruce Schneier, author of "Applied Cryptography" (and the star of his Hacker Jeopardy team), spoke on Saturday about "Why Cryptography Is Harder Than It Looks." He warned of overconfidence when designing a cryptosystem: "The math is perfect. The computers are bad. The networks hideous. The people worse." Says Schneier, "We need to recognize the limits of the possible." Sameer Parekh, president of C2Net, spoke the next day about offshore crypto-development: "We export jobs, not crypto." Jobs seemed to be what many in the crowd were looking for. As one generation of hackers gives way to another, a new batch of self-anointed "security consultants" appears on the scene. Of course, there are never enough scouts in attendance to hire them all. Dejected, and unable to hack more than the hotel PBX, some found solace in the seamier side of Las Vegas. I saw a note inviting everyone to a "StripperCon" that was being held down the street at the Tropicana Hotel on Saturday night. I went gambling instead. Short $75, I wondered whether next year's DefCon would be worth attending -- that is, if it happens at all. But surely there will be a DefCon 6, and since Internet Underground has gone to pasture, who else will there be to cover it? So I poured another shot, dialed 9# on the wall phone and placed a long distance call to the editor. On the house. | The Netly News | Afternoon Line | Bootcamp | This Old PC | Walter Miller | Alt.Culture | Digital Sandbox | Archive |

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Re: The Censorware Summit: A Preview, from The Netly News
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1173,00.html > >The Netly News Network (http://netlynews.com) >July 16, 1997 > >The Censorware Summit >by Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) > Today, Friedland and more than a score of industry and nonprofit > groups are visiting the White House to promote technical means of > stopping Junior from visiting playboy.com. President Clinton is > expected to endorse such measures over attempts to revive broad > criminal laws like the ill-fated Communications Decency Act, which he > supported. But this new approach suffers from all sorts of problems. A UK computer vendor (I forget which) deals in its catalogue with the possible concerns of parents at internet content in this way. It suggests that the computer is in a family room where parents can readily see what Junior is up to. Common sense or what ? Bubba can keep his nose out. > Rep. Bob Goodlatte > (R-Va.), a staunch CDA supporter who will be at today's summit. "They > said we can't go that route. I'm certainly interested in developing > other options. I want to put the burden on pornographers. One of the > ways to do that is to have Congress pass legislation that would make > it difficult for people to misrate their web site." And I (poor ignorant thing) thought that pornmasters wanted their sites recognised for what they are to attract visitors. -- ############################################################### # Antonomasia ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # # See http://www.notatla.demon.co.uk/ # ###############################################################

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"The Failure to Do Your Job" amendment (was Re: White House ...)
by John Deters 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please forgive me for following up to my own posting, but I just realized how close I was to a solution: A Constitutional amendment that would call for the impeachment of the President for failing to veto any three bills that are overturned by the Supreme Court on Constitutional grounds. Call it "The Failure to Do Your Job" amendment, or the "For Violating Your Oath" amendment. Maybe include a clause that stipulates the ex-President must also return any salary earned during his or her tenure. John -- J. Deters "Don't think of Windows programs as spaghetti code. Think of them as 'Long sticky pasta objects in OLE sauce'." +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | NET: mailto:jad@dsddhc.com (work) mailto:jad@pclink.com (home) | | PSTN: 1 612 375 3116 (work) 1 612 894 8507 (home) | | ICBM: 44^58'36"N by 93^16'27"W Elev. ~=290m (work) | | For my public key, send mail with the exact subject line of: | | Subject: get pgp key | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Time Online chat at 8 pm: Does the Net need a Nanny?
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'll be participating in a Time Online chat this evening at 8 pm EST. Our guests will be Chris Hansen from the ACLU and Bruce Taylor, a longtime CDA supporter and head of the National Law Center for Children and Families. We'll be talking about the White House censorware summit, self-rating of news sites, and free speech online in general. Join us at: http://pathfinder.com/time/community/newsforum.html You can participate in the chat as long as your browser supports frames, but the Ichat client software is more stable: http://www.ichat.com/download/ -Declan

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