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17 Dec '03

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Where are the tough guys when we need them?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim wrote: > America is emulating the Soviet "psychiatric prison" system. > Look at Roby Ridge, where some possibly eccentric old lady > is being beseiged by Waco-type raiders. Look for her to "set > her house on fire." > (Not to sound like the little dog in Oz, but: "Pay no > attention to the SWAT team pushing the nozzle of a flame > thrower under her door.") I can't help wondering if some former SPECWAR guy somewhere out there who took his oath seriously, just one, may not get a little sick of watching this stuff on the news and give the old lady a present and the Nazis a message one morning... a SWAT team sleeping the eternal sleep at their posts, their necks having been mildly adjusted during the quiet night. "Whatcha gonna do when they come for you, come for you...?" Nighty-night!

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17 Dec '03

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EU E-Commerce Report
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The EU-based Global Internet Project has published a new report on electronic commerce: http://jya.com/gip-ecomm.htm (29K) An excerpt on crypto policy: 1.No nation's cryptography policy can stand alone. 2. Immediate steps should be taken to solve pressing cryptographic needs that directly affect the global Internet. 3. Reliable and international systems for authentication and integrity should be established. 4. Governments and industry must respond to legitimate user concerns. 5. Users should be permitted to decide whether and the degree to which key escrow, trusted third party, or key recovery technologies will be desirable in their environments or not. 6. Trade barriers should not be disguised as cryptographic regulations. 7. Export controls on encryption should be made multilateral in practice and when used, focused narrowly and genuinely on national security threats. They should not be used as indirect domestic controls. 8. Governments should establish and publish the process by which keys will be obtained for government purposes. This process should include independent judicial review, time limits on access, reasonable notice to the key owner when this would not interfere with the purposes of the decryption, and opportunities for independent audit of compliance with legal process. 9. Liability for misuse of escrowed keys should be the subject of international understanding. 10. When key recovery is voluntarily chosen by the user, self-retention of key recovery information should be encouraged.

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Kyl S-474 Anti-Gambling Bill passes committee
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE APPROVED BILL (S-474) BY SEN. KYL (R-ARIZ.) TO PROHIBIT GAMBLING OVER INTERNET.<> - Senate Judiciary Committee approved bill by Sen. Kyl to prohibit gambling over Internet. As proposed by Kyl to panel, bill would have allowed states to allow Internet gambling, but provision was dropped when Sens. Biden and Sessions objected. [TELEVISION DIGEST, 66 words] Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com Regular Key PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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by business＠mail.t-1net.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Bob - FYI -- not sure if this was already posted ?
by Mark Grant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jonathan Wienke (JonWienk(a)ix.netcom.com) wrote: > Like a kidnapper is really going to encrypt a ransom note so the kidnap > victim's friends won't be able to figure out how to deliver the ransom > money. DUHHHHHHH! But what if you're out at lunch or on vacation, or just moved, and no-one can read the message because they don't have the key? We must have GMR encryption to FBI keys now, just in case! (That's not entirely facetious, I could see them making this kind of argument if CMR is widely adopted... it's not Big Brother, it's just another useful public service). Mark

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FWD: US Computer Security Called a Critical Mess
by Lynne L. Harrison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> W I R E D N E W S http://www.wired.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > BUSINESS CULTURE TECHNOLOGY POLITICS > > T O P S T O R I E S 11:55am 28.Oct.97.PST > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > TECH. 11:55 am > US COMPUTER SECURITY CALLED A > CRITICAL MESS > Saying America's critical infrastructure "stinks," security > guru Peter Neumann fires off a warning over the Clinton > administration's "obvious" recommendations for staving > off hacks. > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.wired.com/news/email/8053.html ************************************************************* Lynne L. Harrison, Esq. | A Word to the Wise: Poughkeepsie, New York | "When the gods lharrison(a)dueprocess.com | wish to punish us, http://www.dueprocess.com | they answer our prayers." ************************************************************* DISCLAIMER: I am not your attorney; you are not my client. Accordingly, the above is *NOT* legal advice.

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Re: [cpe:3185] Re: rescue Mrs Allen from the Feds (Re: Tim's (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 23:44:10 -0800 > Subject: Re: [cpe:3185] Re: rescue Mrs Allen from the Feds (Re: Tim's > worst nightmare.,..) (fwd) > In Reply to the Message wherein it was written: > [snip] > >Remember, dead men NEVER won a war. > > Wrong. > > Dead men *win* the wars by foolishly dying for someone or something, but > the really *smart* ones live to enjoy the peace afterwards and rewrite > history to make themselves look good. > > You're cynical all right, but you're just not cynical *enough*. [The names have been changed to protect the idiotic] Dead men are dead, they don't do anything but feed worms. Live men win wars by being the ones who don't say 'uncle'. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Orthogonal (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Mark Rogaski <wendigo(a)ne-wendigo.jabberwock.org> > Subject: Re: Orthogonal (fwd) > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:28:33 -0500 (EST) > : Some of you people are fucking worthless for anything other than baiting. > > Oh, come now, any human has many uses if you put your mind to it. > A cheap, renewable replacement for ballistic test gelatin, maybe? ;) Ok, so I was wrong that particular point. Come to think of it, I do need somebody to wipe my butt after I shit too, when I do it my carpal-tunnel syndrome gets aggravated... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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