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Info on using Linux operation system?
by "Terry Mills - tlm"＠wwnet.net 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

In answer to the question in Exchange Issue #441, WonderPaint gave a pretty darn good explanation of what is going on in windows. He suggests Linux. My question is can the current software on my machine use Linux if I were to switch to that OS and if not, how much software is available for Linux. Seems all I find is for windows and some for the mac. Thanks. Terry High quality LEADS for mlm. Find three and get yours FREE. Check the August Special! http://mysiteinc.com/tfn/leads.html ANSWERS:

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Computer freezing and a program to free up memory
by "Anthony Lloyd-Rees - cutter"＠opalsinthebag.com 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

>From: NICETY7078(a)aol.com >Subject: What can I do about my computer freezing? (Issue #439) > >My computer freezes when I use AOL and sometimes when >I'm just using the basic functions of Windows 98. My >defragmentor keeps starting over and over and my scan >disk never finds anything wrong, but there has to be. Hello Nicety, I have to agree with Jim Shofstall, http://www.wonderpaint.com, when he wrote in Exchange Issue #441: <snip> One major problem is that many programs don't release memory when you exit. When working in Windoze I've always taken the approach of rebooting on a regular basis before I've had problems, </snip> I believe AOL is a shell that sits on Windows, which pretty much negates any hope for stability. *nix is the only non-Mac answer for reliable computing. I am a Red Hat Linux user as everyone's favourite Redmond OS obviously requires more smarts than I have to make it do anything useful. If you have to live with it however there is a cool little FREE download called FreeMem which you can get here; http://www.meikel.com This utility frees up memory at a click when you exit an app, you also get to see how your memory gets eaten up and not released. This may not fix your problem but at least Windows will be running at peak performance all the time and much easier than constant rebooting. The more you use this OS the more of these little third party fixer upper proggys and utilities you have to search for. HTH. Tony. ______________________________________________________ >>>>>> WEBSITE SHOWCASES <<<<<< Examine carefully - those with email addresses included WILL trade links with you, you are encouraged to contact them. And, there are many ways to build a successful business. 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It's fun, easy, and it's a great opportunity to give some help and receive an informative review of your own site. SITES TO REVIEW: Site #142: http://www.sharesmiles.com James Garrison webmaster(a)sharesmiles.com Site #143: http://www.selltheworldonline.com/default2.asp?ref=1282 gofreet(a)yahoo.com.au Site #144: http://www.tpcenterprises.com/ info(a)tpcenterprises.com Site #145: http://www.worldwidewebproductions.com Len Seider wORLDwIDEwEBPros(a)cs.com Site #146: http://www.candlecreations.com Melissa Kalmbach melscandles(a)msn.com Site #147: http://www.passionforperfume.com Janice Holton janice(a)passionforperfume.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SITE REVIEWED! Comments on Site #141: http://www.floridarental.co.uk Carol Hall carol(a)floridarental.co.uk ~~~~ Just finished looking over your site. It's very flashy and maybe just a tad overdone. I had difficulty finding my way around your site and couldn't understand its purpose until I had gone three pages into it. Maybe it would be a little more useful to make your front page navigation a little less confusing? The "next page" tab is right next to one that says "bookmark this page" - no information until you mouseover the tab to tell you you are entering the site. I felt a little overwhelmed with glitz - animated gif's overemphasized words etc and not enough information on your openning page. ~~~~ I also surprised to see a site for Florida rentals with a URL ending with .uk. Recommendations for this site. 1. On the home page a person's eyes are drawn first to the animation and red text on the yellow background, missing the first sentence. Remove the animation and add more details to this important introduction. Instead of using the 'click here' button, just have a text link following directly after the introduction. 2. On the second page, have all your links the same color, and all your text a different color. Don't confuse people on what is a link and what they need to read. Underlined text on the internet can often be confused for a link, expecially when it is in the normal blue link color. Having the important links in red and with the flashing arrow is overkill. 3. On the rest of the site, you have good information, but you don't need the top menu bar when using the framed menu and the pages are all untitled. I hope you don't think I'm being too harsh, I just know you want the best site you can have and I think these changes will make a world of difference. Once a person gets into the site you have the information organized and complete. I even wanted to come and stay! ~~~~ The animations make this site look amateurish from the beginning. The flashing "Bookmark This Site" makes me want to leave instead of come back! The font Comic Sans MS also looks very kiddy. Much could be done to improve this site. ~~~~ I was confused by this site. There are four animated gifs on the first screen, and so my eyes kept flicking back and forth between them. I read over the paragraph of information, but didn't know where to click. I finally figured out the 'click here' button should have been up by the text and that is where I should go. On the 2nd page, again too many flashing gifs. Other than that, the 2nd page was much easier to find my way around. One suggestion, if you're using frames it is unneccessary to have the menu of links listed both on one frame and at the top of the page as was shown on the 'special offers' page. The font style and bright colors made the site look casual and laid back, like a trip to Florida should be, so that was good. Besides the flashing gifs, by the time I left I liked this site, but if I hadn't been reviewing it I don't know if I would have gotten that far. ~~~~ This site is bright and breezy. It is very clean, easy to read and navigate. Logically presented and information-rich. Some pages had too many animated images for my own taste, but the pages are happy and cheery. 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Check the August Special! <a href="http://mysiteinc.com/tfn/leads.html">http://mysiteinc.com/tfn/leads.html</a>   ANSWERS: From:  Anthony Lloyd-Rees   - cutter(a)opalsinthebag.com Subject:  Computer freezing and a program to free up memory >From:  NICETY7078(a)aol.com >Subject:  What can I do about my computer freezing? (Issue #439) > >My computer freezes when I use AOL and sometimes when >I'm just using the basic functions of Windows 98. My >defragmentor  keeps starting over and over and my scan >disk never finds anything wrong, but there has to be. 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This may not fix your problem but at least Windows will be running at peak performance all the time and much easier than constant rebooting. The more you use this OS the more of these little third party fixer upper proggys and utilities you have to search for. HTH.  Tony. ______________________________________________________ >>>>>> WEBSITE SHOWCASES <<<<<< Examine carefully - those with email addresses included WILL trade links with you, you are encouraged to contact them. And, there are many ways to build a successful business. Just look at these successful sites/programs other members are involved in.. ------------------------------------------------- RETIRE QUICKLY--Free Report "Seven Secrets to Earning $100,000 from Home". Fully Automated Home Business. 81% commissions-Income UNLIMITED. Automated Sales, Recruiting and Training MACHINE. 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Comments on Site #141:  <a href="http://www.floridarental.co.uk">http://www.floridarental.co.uk</a> Carol Hall carol(a)floridarental.co.uk ~~~~ Just finished looking over your site. It's very flashy and maybe just a tad overdone. I had difficulty finding my way around your site and couldn't understand its purpose until I had gone three pages into it. Maybe it would be a little more useful to make your front page navigation a little less confusing? The "next page" tab is right next to one that says "bookmark this page" - no information until you mouseover the tab to tell you you are entering the site. I felt a little overwhelmed with glitz - animated gif's overemphasized words etc and not enough information on your openning page. ~~~~ I also surprised to see a site for Florida rentals with a URL ending with .uk.  Recommendations for this site. 1. On the home page a person's eyes are drawn first to the animation and red text on the yellow background, missing the first sentence. Remove the animation and add more details to this important introduction. Instead of using the 'click here' button, just have a text link following directly after the introduction. 2. On the second page, have all your links the same color, and all your text a different color. Don't confuse people on what is a link and what they need to read. Underlined text on the internet can often be confused for a link, expecially when it is in the normal blue link color.  Having the important links in red and with the flashing arrow is overkill. 3. On the rest of the site, you have good information, but you don't need the top menu bar when using the framed menu and the pages are all untitled. I hope you don't think I'm being too harsh, I just know you want the best site you can have and I think these changes will make a world of difference.  Once a person gets into the site you have the information organized and complete. I even wanted to come and stay! ~~~~ The animations make this site look amateurish from the beginning.  The flashing "Bookmark This Site" makes me want to leave instead of come back!  The font Comic Sans MS also looks very kiddy.  Much could be done to improve this site. ~~~~ I was confused by this site. There are four animated gifs on the first screen, and so my eyes kept flicking back and forth between them. I read over the paragraph of information, but didn't know where to click. I finally figured out the 'click here' button should have been up by the text and that is where I should go. On the 2nd page, again too many flashing gifs.  Other than that, the 2nd page was much easier to find my way around. One suggestion, if you're using frames it is unneccessary to have the menu of links listed both on one frame and at the top of the page as was shown on the 'special offers' page. The font style and bright colors made the site look casual and laid back, like a trip to Florida should be, so that was good. Besides the flashing gifs, by the time I left I liked this site, but if I hadn't been reviewing it I don't know if I would have gotten that far. ~~~~ This site is bright and breezy. It is very clean, easy to read and navigate. Logically presented and information-rich. Some pages had too many animated images for my own taste, but the pages are happy and cheery. 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Info on using Linux operation system?
by "Terry Mills - tlm"＠wwnet.net 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

In answer to the question in Exchange Issue #441, WonderPaint gave a pretty darn good explanation of what is going on in windows. He suggests Linux. My question is can the current software on my machine use Linux if I were to switch to that OS and if not, how much software is available for Linux. Seems all I find is for windows and some for the mac. Thanks. Terry High quality LEADS for mlm. Find three and get yours FREE. Check the August Special! http://mysiteinc.com/tfn/leads.html ANSWERS:

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Computer freezing and a program to free up memory
by "Anthony Lloyd-Rees - cutter"＠opalsinthebag.com 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

>From: NICETY7078(a)aol.com >Subject: What can I do about my computer freezing? (Issue #439) > >My computer freezes when I use AOL and sometimes when >I'm just using the basic functions of Windows 98. My >defragmentor keeps starting over and over and my scan >disk never finds anything wrong, but there has to be. Hello Nicety, I have to agree with Jim Shofstall, http://www.wonderpaint.com, when he wrote in Exchange Issue #441: <snip> One major problem is that many programs don't release memory when you exit. When working in Windoze I've always taken the approach of rebooting on a regular basis before I've had problems, </snip> I believe AOL is a shell that sits on Windows, which pretty much negates any hope for stability. *nix is the only non-Mac answer for reliable computing. I am a Red Hat Linux user as everyone's favourite Redmond OS obviously requires more smarts than I have to make it do anything useful. If you have to live with it however there is a cool little FREE download called FreeMem which you can get here; http://www.meikel.com This utility frees up memory at a click when you exit an app, you also get to see how your memory gets eaten up and not released. This may not fix your problem but at least Windows will be running at peak performance all the time and much easier than constant rebooting. The more you use this OS the more of these little third party fixer upper proggys and utilities you have to search for. HTH. Tony. ______________________________________________________ >>>>>> WEBSITE SHOWCASES <<<<<< Examine carefully - those with email addresses included WILL trade links with you, you are encouraged to contact them. And, there are many ways to build a successful business. Just look at these successful sites/programs other members are involved in... ------------------------------------------------- RETIRE QUICKLY--Free Report "Seven Secrets to Earning $100,000 from Home". Fully Automated Home Business. 81% commissions-Income UNLIMITED. Automated Sales, Recruiting and Training MACHINE. Join NOW! http://orleantraders.4yoursuccess.org Trade Links - mailto:bgmlm@4yoursuccess.org ------------------------------------------------- We Are Looking For A Handful Of "Qualified" People Who Want To Make An Insane Income... Interested? If you do qualify, you will have access to the worlds most powerful online marketing system that can easily explode your income. http://by.advertising.com/1/c/22555/27369/82101/82101 ------------------------------------------------- CIGARETTES GO $MLM$ FREESamples AND Customer Membership $5 OFF 1st Order, 600+ Varieties from $9.95 per carton! BusOP Seekers - Cigarettes are the ultimate consumable! High customer retention insures a steady residual income http://www.key-list.com/track.cgi/mark2020/web6.html Trade Links - tradlinks(a)brand-name-cigarettes.com ------------------------------------------------- If you have a product, service, opportunity and/or quality merchandise that appeals to people worldwide, reach your target audience! For a fraction of what other large newsletters charge you can exhibit your website here for only $8 CPM. Why?... Because as a valuable member we want you to be successful! Order today - Exhibits are limited and published on a first come, first serve basis. http://bannersgomlm.com/ezine ______________________________________________________ >>>>>> MEMBER *REVIEWS* <<<<<< Visit these sites, look for what you like and any suggestions you can offer, and send your critique to MyInput And, after reviewing three sites, your web site will be added to the list! It's fun, easy, and it's a great opportunity to give some help and receive an informative review of your own site. SITES TO REVIEW: Site #142: http://www.sharesmiles.com James Garrison webmaster(a)sharesmiles.com Site #143: http://www.selltheworldonline.com/default2.asp?ref=1282 gofreet(a)yahoo.com.au Site #144: http://www.tpcenterprises.com/ info(a)tpcenterprises.com Site #145: http://www.worldwidewebproductions.com Len Seider wORLDwIDEwEBPros(a)cs.com Site #146: http://www.candlecreations.com Melissa Kalmbach melscandles(a)msn.com Site #147: http://www.passionforperfume.com Janice Holton janice(a)passionforperfume.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SITE REVIEWED! Comments on Site #141: http://www.floridarental.co.uk Carol Hall carol(a)floridarental.co.uk ~~~~ Just finished looking over your site. It's very flashy and maybe just a tad overdone. I had difficulty finding my way around your site and couldn't understand its purpose until I had gone three pages into it. Maybe it would be a little more useful to make your front page navigation a little less confusing? The "next page" tab is right next to one that says "bookmark this page" - no information until you mouseover the tab to tell you you are entering the site. I felt a little overwhelmed with glitz - animated gif's overemphasized words etc and not enough information on your openning page. ~~~~ I also surprised to see a site for Florida rentals with a URL ending with .uk. Recommendations for this site. 1. On the home page a person's eyes are drawn first to the animation and red text on the yellow background, missing the first sentence. Remove the animation and add more details to this important introduction. Instead of using the 'click here' button, just have a text link following directly after the introduction. 2. On the second page, have all your links the same color, and all your text a different color. Don't confuse people on what is a link and what they need to read. Underlined text on the internet can often be confused for a link, expecially when it is in the normal blue link color. Having the important links in red and with the flashing arrow is overkill. 3. On the rest of the site, you have good information, but you don't need the top menu bar when using the framed menu and the pages are all untitled. I hope you don't think I'm being too harsh, I just know you want the best site you can have and I think these changes will make a world of difference. Once a person gets into the site you have the information organized and complete. I even wanted to come and stay! ~~~~ The animations make this site look amateurish from the beginning. The flashing "Bookmark This Site" makes me want to leave instead of come back! The font Comic Sans MS also looks very kiddy. Much could be done to improve this site. ~~~~ I was confused by this site. There are four animated gifs on the first screen, and so my eyes kept flicking back and forth between them. I read over the paragraph of information, but didn't know where to click. I finally figured out the 'click here' button should have been up by the text and that is where I should go. On the 2nd page, again too many flashing gifs. Other than that, the 2nd page was much easier to find my way around. One suggestion, if you're using frames it is unneccessary to have the menu of links listed both on one frame and at the top of the page as was shown on the 'special offers' page. The font style and bright colors made the site look casual and laid back, like a trip to Florida should be, so that was good. Besides the flashing gifs, by the time I left I liked this site, but if I hadn't been reviewing it I don't know if I would have gotten that far. ~~~~ This site is bright and breezy. It is very clean, easy to read and navigate. Logically presented and information-rich. Some pages had too many animated images for my own taste, but the pages are happy and cheery. 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Comments on Site #141:  <a href="http://www.floridarental.co.uk">http://www.floridarental.co.uk</a> Carol Hall carol(a)floridarental.co.uk ~~~~ Just finished looking over your site. It's very flashy and maybe just a tad overdone. I had difficulty finding my way around your site and couldn't understand its purpose until I had gone three pages into it. Maybe it would be a little more useful to make your front page navigation a little less confusing? The "next page" tab is right next to one that says "bookmark this page" - no information until you mouseover the tab to tell you you are entering the site. I felt a little overwhelmed with glitz - animated gif's overemphasized words etc and not enough information on your openning page. ~~~~ I also surprised to see a site for Florida rentals with a URL ending with .uk.  Recommendations for this site. 1. On the home page a person's eyes are drawn first to the animation and red text on the yellow background, missing the first sentence. Remove the animation and add more details to this important introduction. Instead of using the 'click here' button, just have a text link following directly after the introduction. 2. On the second page, have all your links the same color, and all your text a different color. Don't confuse people on what is a link and what they need to read. Underlined text on the internet can often be confused for a link, expecially when it is in the normal blue link color.  Having the important links in red and with the flashing arrow is overkill. 3. On the rest of the site, you have good information, but you don't need the top menu bar when using the framed menu and the pages are all untitled. I hope you don't think I'm being too harsh, I just know you want the best site you can have and I think these changes will make a world of difference.  Once a person gets into the site you have the information organized and complete. I even wanted to come and stay! ~~~~ The animations make this site look amateurish from the beginning.  The flashing "Bookmark This Site" makes me want to leave instead of come back!  The font Comic Sans MS also looks very kiddy.  Much could be done to improve this site. ~~~~ I was confused by this site. There are four animated gifs on the first screen, and so my eyes kept flicking back and forth between them. I read over the paragraph of information, but didn't know where to click. I finally figured out the 'click here' button should have been up by the text and that is where I should go. On the 2nd page, again too many flashing gifs.  Other than that, the 2nd page was much easier to find my way around. One suggestion, if you're using frames it is unneccessary to have the menu of links listed both on one frame and at the top of the page as was shown on the 'special offers' page. The font style and bright colors made the site look casual and laid back, like a trip to Florida should be, so that was good. Besides the flashing gifs, by the time I left I liked this site, but if I hadn't been reviewing it I don't know if I would have gotten that far. ~~~~ This site is bright and breezy. It is very clean, easy to read and navigate. Logically presented and information-rich. Some pages had too many animated images for my own taste, but the pages are happy and cheery. 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Mobile Wifi Backpack
by brian-slashdotnews＠hyperreal.org 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/26/1841245 Posted by: michael, on 2004-03-26 20:20:00 Topic: wireless, 222 comments from the share-the-love dept. [1]ruzel writes "Julian Bleecker's web site [2]TechKwonDo describes [3]a project that is a wifi base station in a backpack. 'WiFi.Bedouin is a wearable, mobile 802.11b node disconnected from the global Internet. It forms a WiFi "island Internet" challenging conventional assumptions about WiFi and suggesting new architectures for digital networks that are based on physical proximity rather than solely connectivity.' The motivation is essentially subversive but what other uses are there for a device like this?" [4]Click Here References 1. mailto:ruzel@yahoo.com 2. http://www.techkwondo.com/ 3. http://www.techkwondo.com/projects/bedouin/index.html 4. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2683&alloc_id=6523&site_id=1&request_id=6363190&… =click&page=%2farticle%2epl ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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Re: Sound filtering software.
by Michael Johnson 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

On Feb 2, 2005, at 12:01 AM, Joseph Chamberlain, DDS wrote: >Do any of you know of a software that I could use to isolate the >frequency >of the human voice and then clean everything else to make the recording >clearer and easier to listen to ? <slips on audio engineer hat> If I had a nickel for every client who came in my studio asking the same question... The human voice has an amazing range in frequency and in dB. It's one of the most versatile instruments ever. The subtleties are amazing when combining guttural sounds with sibilance and resonance, as well as air flow and labial manipulation (which you probably understand being a DDS). This presents a great difficulty when trying to do what you've just asked. For example, in television and radio, you have an effective frequency range of about 15kHz which is more than sufficient for the human voice. However, you're limited to 20dB of dynamic range. This isn't a problem if your speaker is doing a Ben Stein (Bueller? Bueller?) impression. On a cassette tape, you have about 40-50dB, and on 16 bit PCM digital audio, you have ~96dB (which is probably more than the room you're recording in or listening in). The human voice needs about 4kHz to be distinguishable from mumbling. The "presence" of the human voice is (arguably) around 3.8kHz. If you really want to do it right, you'll need about 12kHz to get everything without sounding like a telephone, although that could sound a bit too sibilant if you aren't careful. Basically, what you'll need is a bandpass filter and an expander. Here's what they do: Bandpass filter - Cuts off the low end below a certain frequency and the high end off at a different frequency. You get for example, 150Hz through 4kHz. Anything below 150Hz will be dropped and anything above 4kHz will be dropped. This should get rid of the rumble of the air handlers down low and the rush of the air through the vents up high. it will also sound a little muffled, but you should be able to hear everything just fine. Expander - Makes everything below a certain decibel level quieter. You set a cutoff point, for example 50dB. Anything below that point will unaffected. Everything above that point will be raised according to the ratio you set, for example 1:2, effectively making 60dB sound like 80dB (10dB above the setting at a 1:2 ratio gives a 20dB rise). Now, if there's a lot of noise, using these simple tools is not enough. Many/most recording studios have a "NoNoise?" suite, or "Pro Tools?" suite with DINR (Digidesign Intelligent Noise Reduction...pronounced like dinner). Each of these two applications will take a sample of the noise, and dynamically set filtering through the entire sound file to give you a "clean" version of the file. The software and hardware costs thousands of dollars, but it's well worth going to a studio where they've done this type thing before. It's not going to clean it up like you see on the spy thriller movies, but it can clean it up a lot to make things much more audible. IIRC, the Nat King Cole and Natalie Cole album, "Unforgettable", was done using Sonic Solutions NoNoise?. The engineers took the old recordings, cleaned up the noise, removed his vocal, and then recorded her vocal. When Kenny G came to Washington DC to play on BET, his monitor engineer came to my studio because they had lost/broken/whatever the original CD he used to "play with" Louis Armstrong. We loaded the song from CD, removed the saxophone at the certain points where Kenny played the melody (using DINR), and burned a new CD so he could play it live. This may be a little more power than you need, but it's effectively the same thing, and it sounds pretty good. It also took a LOT longer to do that that it would take to clean up your recording to make it more audible. Now, I'll take my audio engineer hat off and get back to being a UNIX administrator geek... <removes audio engineer hat and goes back to his slashdot hat> -Michael --------------------------------------- Sometimes your joy is the source of your smile, but sometimes your smile can be the source of your joy. --Thich Nhat Hanh _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Scitech mailing list (Scitech(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/scitech/eugen%40leitl.org This email sent to eugen(a)leitl.org ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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Re: nym-0.2 released (fwd)
by Jason Holt 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, cyphrpunk wrote: >All these degrees of indirection look good on paper but are >problematic in practice. As the great Ulysses said, Pete, the personal rancor reflected in that remark I don't intend to dignify with comment. However, I would like to address your attitude of hopeless negativism. Consider the lilies of the g*dd*mn field...or h*ll, look at Delmar here as your paradigm of hope! [Pause] Delmar: Yeah, look at me. Okay, so maybe there's no personal rancor, but I do detect some hopeless negativism. Or perhaps it's unwarranted optimism that crypto-utopia will be here any moment now, flowing with milk and honey, ecash, infrastructure and multi show zero knowledge proofs. Maybe I just need a disclaimer: "Warning: this product favors simplicity over crypto-idealism; not for use in Utopia." Did I mention that my code is Free and (AFAIK) unencumbered? The reason I have separate token and cert servers is that I want to end up with a client cert that can be used in unmodified browsers and servers. The certs don't have to have personal information in them, but with indirection we cheaply get the ability to enfore some sort of structure on the certs. Plus, I spent as much time as it took me to write *both releases of nym* just trying to get ahold of the actual digest in an X.509 cert that needs to be signed by the CA (in order to have the token server sign that instead of a random token). That would have eliminated the separate token/cert steps, but required a really hideous issuing process and produced signatures whose form the CA could have no control over. (Clients could get signatures on IOUs, delegated CA certs, whatever.) (Side note to Steve Bellovin: having once again abandoned mortal combat with X.509, I retract my comment about the system not being broken...) >the security properties of the system. Hence it makes sense for all of them >to be run by a single entity. There can of course be multiple independent >such pseudonym services, each with its own policies. Sure, there's no reason for one entity not to run all three services; we're only talking about 2 CGI scripts and a web proxy anyway. Or, run a CA which serves multiple token servers, and issues certs with extensions specifying what kinds of tokens were "spent" to obtain the cert. Then web servers get articulated limiting from a single CA's certs. >In particular it is not clear that the use of a CA and a client >certificate buys you anything. Why not skip that step and allow the >gateway proxy simply to use tokens as user identifiers? Misbehaving >users get their tokens blacklisted. It buys not having to strap hacked-up code onto your web browser or server. Run the perl scripts once to get the cert, then use it with any browser and any server that knows about the CA. >There are two problems with providing client identifiers to Wikipedia. >The first is as discussed elsewhere, that making persistent pseudonyms >such as client identifiers (rather than pure certifications of >complaint-freeness) available to end services like Wikipedia hurts >privacy and is vulnerable to future exposure due to the lack of >forward secrecy. Great, you guys work up an RFC, then an IETF draft, then some Idemix code with all the ZK proofs. In the meantime, I'll be setting up my 349 lines of perl/shell code for whoever wants to use it. Whoops, I forgot the IP-rationing code; 373 lines. Actually, if all you want is complaint-free certifications, that's easy to put in the proxy; just make it serve up different identifiers each time and keep a table of which IDs map to which client certs. Makes it harder for the wikipedia admins to see patterns of abuse, though. They'd have to report each incident and let the proxy admin decide when the threshold is reached. >The second is that the necessary changes to the Wikipedia software are >probably more extensive than they might sound. Wikipedia tags each >("anonymous") edit with the IP address from which it came. This information >is displayed on the history page and is used widely throughout the site. >Changing Wikipedia to use some other kind of identifier is likely to have >far-reaching ramifications. Unless you can provide this "client idenfier" >as a sort of virtual IP (fits in 32 bits) which you don't mind being >displayed everywhere on the site (see objection 1), it is going to be >expensive to implement on the wiki side. There's that hopeless negativism again. Do you want a real solution or not? Because I can think of at least 2 ways to solve that problem in a practical setting, and that's assuming that your assumption about MediaWiki being limited to 4-byte identifiers is even correct. >The simpler solution is to have the gateway proxy not be a hidden >service but to be a public service on the net which has its own exit >IP addresses. It would be a sort of "virtual ISP" which helps >anonymous users to gain the rights and privileges of the identified, >including putting their reputations at risk if they misbehave. This >solution works out of the box for Wikipedia and other wikis, for blog >comments, and for any other HTTP service which is subject to abuse by >anonymous users. I suggest that you adapt your software to this usage >model, which is more general and probably easier to implement. Sure. I always meant for the gateway to exit on a public IP address. The reason to make it a hidden service is to keep n00bs from forgetting to turn on tor when they talk to the proxy. Thanks for clarifying, though. -J ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?
by Jonathan Wilkes 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

With the way most residential routers are set up, and the way in which most privacy-preserving software leaves the ugly details of traversing a NAT to the user, I can think of only a few ways I would benefit from having a freedombox. That is-- I can't think of a single instance where routing around the most common ISP obstacles (like not wanting me to run a globally- reachable service from my home, throttling, etc.) would be made easier by introducing another piece of hardware into the mix. However, I would still like to use the Freedombox for three inter-related purposes. In order of immediate importance for potential users, they are: 1) As a foolproof, turn-key solution for low risk, private browsing and data retention. 2) As an introduction to f2f identities, and chat that is end-to-end encrypted. 3) As a physical metaphor for seriousness about control over one's data. #1 is the most important because it is the only use case for which the Freedombox offers a unique solution that _doesn't_ depend on potential users understanding the dangers of online surveillance vis a vis Google, Facebook, and others. Even those who are perfectly happy expressing a large part of their social lives on Facebook have a need/desire for privacy in _some_ domain. For one who lacks any knowledge whatsoever of privacy issues, this domain is probably pornography. With limited knowledge it is pornography and career-sensitive data. And so on up the ladder until we arrive at complex technical and philosophical issues of privacy and data control for which members of this list are quite familiar. Basically I'm talking about Freedombox as a machine on which the user runs Vidalia or the Tor Browser Bundle (not exactly sure how that would work), plus some encrypted storage. As far as I know, these are the only pieces of peer-reviewed, actively maintained software for which the user can simply click an icon and have the privacy-preserving service "just work". The benefit of running it on a separate piece of hardware is small, but the benefit exists (ease of mind knowing that any data stored from private browsing or anything else is encrypted, without having to follow an online tutorial). More importantly, that benefit exists and is meaningful to the user whether the data itself is frivolous or potentially life-altering. #2 is secondary because there really isn't a benefit to the user who has no understanding of the importance of online privacy. It's also questionable whether this is even important to users with an above-average understanding of privacy issues. I see an enormous amount of data shared _publicly_ on Diaspora by people who left Facebook ostensibly because of its privacy issues, for example. It's not clear to me that such users would understand the importance of developing a bottom-up system of peer-to-peer trust themselves, rather than just having their data housed unencrypted on a server and making it available to the public. There is the future benefit of being able to backup data with your friends' Freedomboxes. But that presupposes a critical mass of online activity happening through the Freedbombox rather than the current centralized services being used. #3 Is probably most important as an explanatory technique. Here's a block of hardware. This is your data vault. Get seven of your friends to run one and you've got an encrypted backup. Put it where it's safe, and that's where it stays. (I think this is how Eben Moglen originally described it.) Anyway, as I see it this is the only set of uses that doesn't exclude 99% of the population from actually wanting to buy a box, plug it in, and get to work on it. Everything else is great _if_ one already understands about privacy and freedom; unfortunately, most people do not, and I'd rather they find out through software updates that add a feature to the box they are already using for _some_purpose, or by a friend programming it to route around the govt's filters, than by yet more of their data getting leaked, or picked through for potential profit, or harassment. _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss(a)lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Info on using Linux operation system?
by "Terry Mills - tlm"＠wwnet.net 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

In answer to the question in Exchange Issue #441, WonderPaint gave a pretty darn good explanation of what is going on in windows. He suggests Linux. My question is can the current software on my machine use Linux if I were to switch to that OS and if not, how much software is available for Linux. Seems all I find is for windows and some for the mac. Thanks. Terry High quality LEADS for mlm. Find three and get yours FREE. Check the August Special! http://mysiteinc.com/tfn/leads.html ANSWERS:

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Computer freezing and a program to free up memory
by "Anthony Lloyd-Rees - cutter"＠opalsinthebag.com 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

>From: NICETY7078(a)aol.com >Subject: What can I do about my computer freezing? (Issue #439) > >My computer freezes when I use AOL and sometimes when >I'm just using the basic functions of Windows 98. My >defragmentor keeps starting over and over and my scan >disk never finds anything wrong, but there has to be. Hello Nicety, I have to agree with Jim Shofstall, http://www.wonderpaint.com, when he wrote in Exchange Issue #441: <snip> One major problem is that many programs don't release memory when you exit. When working in Windoze I've always taken the approach of rebooting on a regular basis before I've had problems, </snip> I believe AOL is a shell that sits on Windows, which pretty much negates any hope for stability. *nix is the only non-Mac answer for reliable computing. I am a Red Hat Linux user as everyone's favourite Redmond OS obviously requires more smarts than I have to make it do anything useful. If you have to live with it however there is a cool little FREE download called FreeMem which you can get here; http://www.meikel.com This utility frees up memory at a click when you exit an app, you also get to see how your memory gets eaten up and not released. This may not fix your problem but at least Windows will be running at peak performance all the time and much easier than constant rebooting. The more you use this OS the more of these little third party fixer upper proggys and utilities you have to search for. HTH. Tony. ______________________________________________________ >>>>>> WEBSITE SHOWCASES <<<<<< Examine carefully - those with email addresses included WILL trade links with you, you are encouraged to contact them. And, there are many ways to build a successful business. 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Maybe it would be a little more useful to make your front page navigation a little less confusing? The "next page" tab is right next to one that says "bookmark this page" - no information until you mouseover the tab to tell you you are entering the site. I felt a little overwhelmed with glitz - animated gif's overemphasized words etc and not enough information on your openning page. ~~~~ I also surprised to see a site for Florida rentals with a URL ending with .uk. Recommendations for this site. 1. On the home page a person's eyes are drawn first to the animation and red text on the yellow background, missing the first sentence. Remove the animation and add more details to this important introduction. Instead of using the 'click here' button, just have a text link following directly after the introduction. 2. On the second page, have all your links the same color, and all your text a different color. Don't confuse people on what is a link and what they need to read. Underlined text on the internet can often be confused for a link, expecially when it is in the normal blue link color. Having the important links in red and with the flashing arrow is overkill. 3. On the rest of the site, you have good information, but you don't need the top menu bar when using the framed menu and the pages are all untitled. I hope you don't think I'm being too harsh, I just know you want the best site you can have and I think these changes will make a world of difference. Once a person gets into the site you have the information organized and complete. I even wanted to come and stay! ~~~~ The animations make this site look amateurish from the beginning. The flashing "Bookmark This Site" makes me want to leave instead of come back! The font Comic Sans MS also looks very kiddy. Much could be done to improve this site. ~~~~ I was confused by this site. There are four animated gifs on the first screen, and so my eyes kept flicking back and forth between them. I read over the paragraph of information, but didn't know where to click. I finally figured out the 'click here' button should have been up by the text and that is where I should go. On the 2nd page, again too many flashing gifs. Other than that, the 2nd page was much easier to find my way around. One suggestion, if you're using frames it is unneccessary to have the menu of links listed both on one frame and at the top of the page as was shown on the 'special offers' page. The font style and bright colors made the site look casual and laid back, like a trip to Florida should be, so that was good. Besides the flashing gifs, by the time I left I liked this site, but if I hadn't been reviewing it I don't know if I would have gotten that far. ~~~~ This site is bright and breezy. It is very clean, easy to read and navigate. Logically presented and information-rich. Some pages had too many animated images for my own taste, but the pages are happy and cheery. 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Check the August Special! <a href="http://mysiteinc.com/tfn/leads.html">http://mysiteinc.com/tfn/leads.html</a>   ANSWERS: From:  Anthony Lloyd-Rees   - cutter(a)opalsinthebag.com Subject:  Computer freezing and a program to free up memory >From:  NICETY7078(a)aol.com >Subject:  What can I do about my computer freezing? (Issue #439) > >My computer freezes when I use AOL and sometimes when >I'm just using the basic functions of Windows 98. My >defragmentor  keeps starting over and over and my scan >disk never finds anything wrong, but there has to be. Hello Nicety, I  have to agree with Jim Shofstall, http://www.wonderpaint.com, when he wrote in Exchange Issue #441: <snip>  One major problem is that many programs don't release memory when you exit.  When working in Windoze I've always taken the approach of rebooting on a regular basis before I've had problems, </snip> I believe AOL is a shell that sits on Windows, which pretty much negates any hope for stability. *nix is the only non-Mac answer for reliable computing. I am a Red Hat Linux user as everyone's favourite Redmond OS obviously requires more smarts than I have to make it do anything useful. If you have to live with it however there is a cool little FREE download called FreeMem which you can get here; <a href="http://www.meikel.com">http://www.meikel.com</a><a href="http://www.meikel.com"></a> This utility frees up memory at a click when you exit an app, you also get to see how your memory gets eaten up and not released. This may not fix your problem but at least Windows will be running at peak performance all the time and much easier than constant rebooting. The more you use this OS the more of these little third party fixer upper proggys and utilities you have to search for. HTH.  Tony. ______________________________________________________ >>>>>> WEBSITE SHOWCASES <<<<<< Examine carefully - those with email addresses included WILL trade links with you, you are encouraged to contact them. And, there are many ways to build a successful business. Just look at these successful sites/programs other members are involved in.. ------------------------------------------------- RETIRE QUICKLY--Free Report "Seven Secrets to Earning $100,000 from Home". Fully Automated Home Business. 81% commissions-Income UNLIMITED. Automated Sales, Recruiting and Training MACHINE. 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Comments on Site #141:  <a href="http://www.floridarental.co.uk">http://www.floridarental.co.uk</a> Carol Hall carol(a)floridarental.co.uk ~~~~ Just finished looking over your site. It's very flashy and maybe just a tad overdone. I had difficulty finding my way around your site and couldn't understand its purpose until I had gone three pages into it. Maybe it would be a little more useful to make your front page navigation a little less confusing? The "next page" tab is right next to one that says "bookmark this page" - no information until you mouseover the tab to tell you you are entering the site. I felt a little overwhelmed with glitz - animated gif's overemphasized words etc and not enough information on your openning page. ~~~~ I also surprised to see a site for Florida rentals with a URL ending with .uk.  Recommendations for this site. 1. On the home page a person's eyes are drawn first to the animation and red text on the yellow background, missing the first sentence. Remove the animation and add more details to this important introduction. Instead of using the 'click here' button, just have a text link following directly after the introduction. 2. On the second page, have all your links the same color, and all your text a different color. Don't confuse people on what is a link and what they need to read. Underlined text on the internet can often be confused for a link, expecially when it is in the normal blue link color.  Having the important links in red and with the flashing arrow is overkill. 3. On the rest of the site, you have good information, but you don't need the top menu bar when using the framed menu and the pages are all untitled. I hope you don't think I'm being too harsh, I just know you want the best site you can have and I think these changes will make a world of difference.  Once a person gets into the site you have the information organized and complete. I even wanted to come and stay! ~~~~ The animations make this site look amateurish from the beginning.  The flashing "Bookmark This Site" makes me want to leave instead of come back!  The font Comic Sans MS also looks very kiddy.  Much could be done to improve this site. ~~~~ I was confused by this site. There are four animated gifs on the first screen, and so my eyes kept flicking back and forth between them. I read over the paragraph of information, but didn't know where to click. I finally figured out the 'click here' button should have been up by the text and that is where I should go. On the 2nd page, again too many flashing gifs.  Other than that, the 2nd page was much easier to find my way around. One suggestion, if you're using frames it is unneccessary to have the menu of links listed both on one frame and at the top of the page as was shown on the 'special offers' page. The font style and bright colors made the site look casual and laid back, like a trip to Florida should be, so that was good. Besides the flashing gifs, by the time I left I liked this site, but if I hadn't been reviewing it I don't know if I would have gotten that far. ~~~~ This site is bright and breezy. It is very clean, easy to read and navigate. Logically presented and information-rich. Some pages had too many animated images for my own taste, but the pages are happy and cheery. 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