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Re: Killing those who need killing
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim May wrote: >Don't any of you get any ideas here, but in California it is >ridiculously easy to get someone committed for a 72-hour observation >period. All one has to do is convince one of the various agencies >that a person is a possible danger to himself or to others.... >...Worst of all, the mere fact of having been committed, regardless >of the eventual outcome, can mean a complete loss of rights to own a >handgun, rifle, or shotgun for a long period (10 years, I >think). Failure to let the Thought Police in for a look around one's >home is almost ipso facto grounds for committment. Use of remailers lessens this and other risks. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNFqgYZaWtjSmRH/5AQHYBwf9HcENXxw+SD3wt3yRFLBmyFHmqNCuQP30 5JdzgfUuwAHBD2D/JkXm3X99vBFcoeouysgCj79yDYdzQeIWHAamO1pdlCcmgcVz 0vBGz7izWgaMioXQAIPU5cBpaEfac5yOleetKQwViq0cnV49aA309qOzi4QzufAD YJuV+hURnfmHPNrOmXRtlbPRzCwogo4pIZu8Vs5klxwSyRL/1G8KLzDERnSE4bFg +0D9MDV9lFmaaqiA2XRYZSEgsFyD3BKc2kgWceugnQl3UtSvLdXncoQPAJbcpE7Y OPIV2YS9S2qNTprtiTiMLV1dsZ+5QeXZoUKEztVRJXwGMYNLMQKqJg== =C2Wi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am a bit confused. A post to the list claimed that the fifteen year old who raped and murdered the eleven year old (both boys) had not met his victim on the internet, as initial media sources indicated, but on an 800 number phone-chat line. I vaguely recall doing a web search to find out the facts for myself and confirming the claim. Now I am watching Sixty Minutes on tv and they keep repeating the mantra, "met on the internet, met on the internet..." Does anyone have the so called real scoop on this? Thank You

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re: Hlep
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Protocols for Insurance to Maintain Privacy
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim May wrote: >>I'm pretty sure that if you are an unconscious wealthy looking >>person they don't turn you away. You really only need to survive >>until your lawyer gets to the hospital with a suitcase of cash. > >Read "The Millionaire Next Door" for tips on what millionaires (who >are of course the "barely non-poor" these days) are likely to be >wearing and flaunting. Turns out that most Yuppies driving BMWs and >wearning Rolexes are doing so on _credit_. Driving a Mercedes or BMW >has nothing to do with actual ability to pay bills. Perception, not reality, is what is important here. A wealthy appearing person will generally fare better. It's true, however, that you are probably better off with proof of insurance than an expensive watch when being wheeled into the emergency room. (Except for your privacy, that is.) Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNFqfBJaWtjSmRH/5AQER8Qf/TFHTzT30VZwgeVx8BShmDbmCCn1PnpEf x8f06xvldW0SQEKZRh31IjXI3SPorWxPoqI/wB0Qq/7hIp9qzKeI7xnGqyOKBbcg NrqPyxfELm0h5udBAUcVg94SDGcNyccYfSpyw1qoEBHhMLwmLdTsViWTPZcgUQLG qWgkPm8ZqVlsOkwQZU8QlzT8B/9e8QX1fP/d9Ai8Xwi5cCU+25go2O69a6bq/6Qw lqEvwUWCIG/6u789fozdS3rPvNjeMP5WFi92cy9MsnYu4I4kjVHsHV6Zwn/f+gZv 4oggD4OehPwSpUXhCbBcZ6FB/9JBWC8xTtjVz8TbGfazaoRG/vwolw== =dBa3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Eugene Kashpureff in custody
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 15:41:13 +1100 To: aussie-isp(a)aussie.net, link(a)www.anu.edu.au, aursc(a)lists.ah.net From: Adam Todd <at(a)ah.net> Subject: [Oz-ISP] Eugene Kashpureff in custody. Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:40:20 -0500 (EST) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RSCTALK Discussion List. Open. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Kashpureff, known for his redirect of the NSI web page, was apprehended this morning in Toronto by undercover RCMP detectives. Pending a deportation hearing, he will be returned to New York to face Felony Wire Fraud charges that were sworn out against him after he had settled out of court with NSI in regard to their civil suit. Early in the week Eugene relinquished control of the Alternic to an adhoc industry group. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is alledged there are 40,000 individual charges being laid agains Euegene. It is strongly expected ISP's and DNS operators world wide will provide support to Eugene through RSC organisation to ensure his safe return. For more information contact the Author. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The advice offered in this email is not considered professional advice, or it would be accompanied by an invoice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Business Development, Technology Domain Registration and Network Advisory Telstra Convery Member Adam Todd Personal http://adamtodd.ah.net Phone +61 2 9729 0565 Network http://www.ah.net AU Root Server Confederation http://aursc.ah.net AU Internet News mailto:internet-request@ah.net with "subscribe"

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by lurker＠ottoman.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

October 30, 1997 Web posted at: 9:34 p.m. EST (0234 GMT) ROBY, Illinois (CNN) -- Shirley A. Allen, a mentally disturbed woman who held police off for 39 days with a shotgun and entertained herself by listening to public radio, was captured Thursday and taken to a hospital. "The good news is she's safe," said Terrance Gainer, Illinois state police director. "The great news is nobody got seriously hurt or killed." The standoff ended when Allen ventured out on the deck behind her home to throw away food and water left for her by the police. On her third trip, she stooped to cut a wire attached to a pail in which a police camera was hidden. A trooper fired six rubber bullets at her, striking her two or three times and knocking her to the deck, where she was captured. Gainer said that Allen, who wore a full camouflage suit padded with a pillow and magazines, was examined at a hospital and reported to be in good condition was feisty enough after the ordeal to scold police for their tactics during the standoff. Gainer said she is still in custody and will undergo a psychiatric examination. "I think she's probably as relieved right now as we are that this is over," said Allen's brother, Byron Dugger, who talked with her after she was captured. Gainer said Allen asked Dugger to open his mouth to prove he wasn't someone wearing a mask that looked like him. 'They have zapped my head with radar' The standoff in this small central Illinois town began September 22 when Allen, 51, brandished a shotgun as her brother and sheriff's deputies tried to take her in for a court-ordered evaluation. Allen's relatives were concerned because she had become increasingly depressed and paranoid since her husband died of pancreatic cancer in 1989. More recently, she had refused to see or talk to her brother or her 86-year-old mother. In a letter to her mother in May 1996, Allen wrote, "They have zapped my head with radar. I have swelling and inflammation of the brain." She did not say who "they" were, but when police offered her water after she was captured, she said "the helicopters" told her not to drink it. There were no helicopters in sight, but she finally drank the water after troopers drank some to prove it wasn't poisoned. She told them she hadn't eaten or had anything to drink in three days. Allen also talked to her daughter, Kate Waddell, after she was captured. "But she wasn't quite sure it was Mrs. Waddell," Gainer said. Allen's case attracted the sympathy of many neighbors and became a rallying point for some who called it "Roby Ridge," likening it to shootouts at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, and Waco, Texas, as an example of overzealous law enforcement. Standoff cost taxpayers about $1 million Others questioned the expense of the standoff. Gainer tackled that one head-on at a news conference Thursday, saying it was about $15,000 a day. He estimated the total cost of the operation at $750,000 to $1 million. Obviously relieved that Allen was taken alive, an unapologetic Gainer said, "But I don't think Mrs. Shirley Allen is worth a cent less than that." Police tried to get Allen out of her green frame farmhouse with tear gas, pepper spray and music. They also tried to coax her out with a visit from her favorite stepdaughter. This week, they began giving her food and restored her power, which had been shut off earlier, in a goodwill gesture they hoped would calm her down. Allen had fought off tear gas by smearing her face with petroleum jelly and withstood beanbag bullets by wearing heavy layers of clothing. She apparently slept in a sleeping bag in the living room -- the room where her husband died -- and had two transistor radios with earplugs. Gainer said the radios were tuned to a local public radio station. Protesters gathered daily to support her and criticized the police. 'Mrs. Allen is where she needs to be' "The good feeling is it's over for her. The bad feeling is how she's going to be trapped after this is over with," said John Powers, a neighbor and one of the protesters. "We don't know if they'll treat her as a person who is sane or as a person who tried to shoot their dog." Although Allen fired at state troopers and wounded a police dog sent into her home Sunday, "it would serve no useful purpose to charge her," Gainer said. "Given what we have known from Day 1, Mrs. Allen is where she needs to be right now." Reporter Lisa Price and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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