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Re: Executing Kaczynski
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The more important silence is about the instant sentencing of the >Unabomber compared to Jim Bell's sentencing. What _is_ happening with >Jim? Kaczynski was not sentenced immediately - but the crimes he plead guilty to and the legal posture of the prosecution (e.g., the withdrawn notice of intent to seek the death penalty) make his sentence a foregone conclusion. He is still, however, subject to the same pre-sentencing rigamarole that Jim was; see, for example, this excerpt from the transcripts of the court proceeding on 1/22 - (at <http://cnn.com/SPECIALS/1997/unabomb/transcripts/9801/012298.txt>). 9THE COURT: Okay. There will be a special assessment of 10 $650 imposed for your guilty plea pursuant to federal law. 11Mr. Kaczynski, do you understand those possible 12 consequences of your plea? 13THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor. 14THE COURT: Under the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984, the 15 United States Sentencing Commission has issued guidelines for 16 judges to follow in determining the sentence in a criminal 17 case. Have you and your attorneys talked about how the 18 Sentencing Commission guidelines might apply to your case? 19(Discussion off the record between the defendant, 20 Ms. Clarke and Mr. Denvir.) 21THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor. 22THE COURT: Do you understand that the Court will not be 23 able to determine the guideline sentence for your case until 24 after the pre-sentence report has been completed and your 25 attorney and the Government have had an opportunity to object SUSAN VAUGHAN, CSR No. 9673 -- (916) 446-1347 3810 1 to any of the findings in that report? 2THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor. 3THE COURT: Do you understand that after it has been 4 determined what guideline applies to a case, the judge has the 5 authority in some circumstances to impose a sentence that is 6 more severe or less severe than the sentence called for by the 7 guidelines? 8THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor. 9THE COURT: How about the question of appeal? Has that 10 been waived? 11MR. LAPHAM: Yes, Your Honor. It's contained at page 7, 12 beginning at line 16. 13THE COURT: Okay. Do you understand that by entering 14 into the plea agreement you have entered with the Government, 15 you will have waived or given up your right to appeal all or 16 any part of your plea of guilty and anything else that occurs 17 during this conviction hearing and anything that occurs during 18 your sentencing hearing? 19THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor. 20THE COURT: Do you understand that parole has been 21 abolished and that if you plead guilty, you will spend the 22 rest of your life in prison and you will never be released or 23 paroled? 24THE DEFENDANT: I understand that, Your Honor. 25THE COURT: Do you understand that if the sentence is SUSAN VAUGHAN, CSR No. 9673 -- (916) 446-1347 3811 1 more severe than you expected, you will still be bound by your 2 plea and will have no right to withdraw it? 3THE DEFENDANT: I understand it, Your Honor. 4THE COURT: Do you understand that if I do not accept 5 the sentencing recommendation in your plea agreement, you will 6 still be bound by your plea and will have no right to withdraw 7 it? 8THE DEFENDANT: I understand that, Your Honor. [...] -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | Export jobs, not crypto. http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | http://www.parrhesia.com

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Update on New Zealand crypto policy
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As part of my recent effort to prepare a useful home page after 2 years of having instead a mini text adventure, I've finally got around to finishing off the web page containing the recent history of, and current state of, New Zealands crypto export policy as decided by several intelligence agencies and a supporting cast of bungling bureaucrats. This policy has resulted in New Zealand enjoying the dubious distinction of having the strictest export controls on earth, with everything ranging from crypto hardware down to software, library books, computer magazines, and journals being restricted from export. It's not even possible for a university to publish academic research without prior permission from a government agency, and the requirements for obtaining this permission are structured to ensure that they can never be fulfilled. You can find the information on: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/ The page also contains links to a sizeable collection of never-before- published documents including correspondence with relevant government agencies, and media reports on the situation. If you're going to send me mail about this, please note that I'll be at Usenix in San Antonio for the next week, so it'll take awhile for me to reply. My PGP key's at the bottom of my home page if you need it. Peter.

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Announcement: RPK InvisiMail released on 12 Jan, 1998
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text From: RPK New Zealand Ltd <info(a)rpkusa.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:24:28 Subject: Announcement: RPK InvisiMail released on 12 Jan, 1998 You have received this message because at some time during the past two years you have requested to be put on the RPK New Zealand Ltd. company mailing list. (We're the Fast Public Key Encryption company). If you wish to be removed from the list, please forward this message to remove(a)rpkusa.com -------------------------------- RPK New Zealand Ltd. in a joint venture with Virtually Online Ltd. has released RPK InvisiMail, a standards-based e-mail security application for use with Internet mail software (SMTP/POP3). The product offers the strongest encryption available anywhere in the world. Since it was built outside the United States, it is also available all over the world with strong encryption. RPK InvisiMail is also the easiest product of its type to setup and use which makes it quite unique. You can learn more about this product by reading the press release below or by visiting the web site at www.InvisiMail.com. We are also offering FREE downloads of the RPK InvisiMail Intro product. Please give it a try and pass it along to anyone you like. -------------------------------- For Immediate Release Contact: Sal Cataldi, Cataldi PR +1 212.941.9464, scataldi(a)earthlink.net, www.InvisiMail.com RPK InvisiMail(tm), secure Internet e-mail with globally available strong encryption for Microsoft, Netscape platforms SAN FRANCISCO, Jan. 12, 1998 - InvisiMail Ltd (www.InvisiMail.com) announced today immediate worldwide availability of RPK(tm) InvisiMail(tm), a standards-based e-mail security add-in for Microsoft, Netscape and other POP3/SMTP Internet e-mail clients and gateway servers. Tested and certified by the International Computer Security Association (www.ncsa.com) RPK InvisiMail automatically and transparently encrypts e-mail messages and attachments, authenticates the sender and verifies the contents of each message have not been changed in transit. RPK InvisiMail is globally available with high strength encryption. InvisiMail and the underlying RPK encryption algorithm were developed outside the United States. Therefore, InvisiMail is not subject to restrictive U.S. export policies. RPK InvisiMail is as easy to set up and use as anti-virus software, and just as important. While Microsoft and Netscape battle each other with incompatible and difficult to use security offerings, InvisiMail seamlessly integrates with ALL popular POP3/SMTP e-mail products including Netscape, Microsoft, Eudora, Pegasus, Calypso -- more than any other solution available today -- making it the preferred e-mail security product for multi-platform use, worldwide. All InvisiMail users can send the FREE InvisiMail Intro version to anyone worldwide, providing compatibility without requiring others to purchase anything, making InvisiMail unique among e-mail security offerings. "Most people don't realize that their e-mail can be forged, altered or read by anyone, any time, without any evidence," said Jack Oswald, President and CEO of RPK Ltd. "Without products like RPK InvisiMail, communications on the Internet are untrustworthy." InvisiMail uses the RPK Fast Public Key Encryptonite(tm) Engine, the strongest cryptography available worldwide today. RPK is dramatically faster than the well-known RSA algorithm, yet just as secure. RPK has been analyzed by world class cryptographers who have issued reports on the security and integrity of the technology. "InvisiMail is the easiest, fastest, most transparent e-mail security product I have seen," said Kevin Shannon, President of net*Gain, a specialist in launching Internet companies. "This is the product we've all been waiting for." As part of its official launch, InvisiMail Professional is available FREE to all New Zealand residents for ninety days. RPK InvisiMail is available in two desktop versions: Intro (FREE) and Professional (introductory price $29.95). RPK InvisiMail Enterprise Gateway Server will be available Q2 1998. InvisiMail can be downloaded from: www.InvisiMail.com. All trademarks and registered trademarks are those of their respective companies. *** --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Document destruction services
by ichudov＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I have a box of confidential papers that I do not need. I would prefer not to just throw them away, but to either shred or incinerate them. Due to the sheer size of the box, it is not practical for me to buy and use a home shredder. Would anyone have a suggestion as to what is the best way to destroy them? Aer there any services that do it inexpensively? Thank you igor

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Document destruction services (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi Igor, Forwarded message: > Subject: Document destruction services > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:36:54 -0600 (CST) > From: ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) > I have a box of confidential papers that I do not need. I would prefer not > to just throw them away, but to either shred or incinerate them. Due to > the sheer size of the box, it is not practical for me to buy and use a home > shredder. Would anyone have a suggestion as to what is the best way to > destroy them? Aer there any services that do it inexpensively? Ask one of your friends with a fireplace to help out. Just remember to stire the ashes when done. Otherwise it's possible using IR sensing to read the ink on larger pieces of the paper. A bar-b-q pit is also a very good means. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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FCC sets new access rates - ISP's escape inter-state tariff - Congestion argument denied
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://www.fcc.gov/ccb/access/fcc97158.html > Federal Communications Commission > navigation bar with links to FCC Homepage, Search, Commissioners, > Bureaus/Offices, and Finding Information > > HTML Format > > > FCC 97-158 > > First Report & Order In the Matter of > Access Charge Reform > Price Cap Performance Review for Local Exchange Carriers > Transport Rate Structure and Pricing > Usage of the Public Switched Network by Information Service and > Internet Access Providers > _________________________________________________________________ > > Text Version | WordPerfect Version | Acrobat Version | News Release | > Errata > > > > > Table of Contents > links to HTML files > > These files do not contain the changes specified in the 6/4/97 Errata! > > > TITLE PAGE > > I. Introduction 1 > A. Background 17 > > > 1. The Existing Rate System 17 > 2. Implicit Subsidies in the Existing System 28 > 3. The Telecommunications Act of 1996 32 > > > B. Access Charge Reform 35 > > > 1. Rationalizing the Rate Structure 36 > 2. Baseline Rate Level Reductions 42 > > > > II. Summary of Rate Structure Changes and Transitions 53 > A. Common Line Rate Structure Changes 54 > B. Other Rate Structure Changes 61 > > III. Rate Structure Modifications 67 > A. Common Line 67 > > > 1. Overview 67 > 2. Subscriber Line Charge 72 > 3. Carrier Common Line Charge 88 > 4. Common Line PCI Formula 106 > 5. Assessment of SLCs and PICCs on Derived Channels 111 > > > B. Local Switching 123 > > > 1. Non-Traffic Sensitive Charges 123 > 2. Traffic Sensitive Charges 136 > > > C. Transport 150 > > > 1. Entrance Facilities and Direct-Trunked Transport 152 > 2. Tandem-Switched Transport 158 > > > D. Transport Interconnection Charge (TIC) 210 > > > 1. Background 210 > 2. Discussion 212 > > > E. SS7 Signalling 244 > > > 1. Background 244 > 2. Discussion 252 > > > F. Impact of New Technologies 256 > > IV. Baseline Rate Levels 258 > A. Primary Reliance on a Market-Based Approach With A > Prescriptive Backdrop and the Adoption of Several Initial > Prescriptive Measures 258 > > > 1. Background 258 > 2. Discussion 262 > > > B. Prescriptive Approaches 285 > > > 1. Prescription of a New X-Factor 285 > 2. Rejection of Certain Prescriptive Approaches 287 > > > C. Equal Access Costs 299 > > > 1. Background 299 > 2. Discussion 302 > > > D. Correction of Improper Cost Allocations 315 > > > 1. Marketing Expenses 315 > 2. General Support Facilities 326 > > > > V. Access Reform For Incumbent Rate-of-Return Local Exchange Carriers > 329 > A. Background 329 > B. Discussion 330 > > VI. Other Issues 336 > A. Applicability of Part 69 to Unbundled Elements 336 > > > 1. Background 336 > 2. Discussion 337 > > > B. Treatment of Interstate Information Services 341 > > > 1. Background 341 > 2. Discussion 344 > > > C. Terminating Access 349 > > > 1. Price Cap Incumbent LECs 350 > 2. Non-Incumbent LECs 358 > 3. "Open End" Services 365 > > > D. Universal Service-Related Part 69 Changes 367 > > > 1. Background 368 > 2. Discussion 372 > > > E. Part 69 Allocation Rules 388 > > > 1. Background 388 > 2. Discussion 389 > > > F. Other Proposed Part 69 Changes 390 > > > 1. Background 390 > 2. Discussion 391 > > > > VII. Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking 397 > A. PICCs for Special Access Lines 397 > > > 1. Background 398 > 2. Proposal 403 > > > B. General Support Facilities Costs 407 > > > 1. Background 408 > 2. Proposal 412 > > > > VIII. Final Regulatory Flexibility Analysis 419 > > IX. Procedural Issues 441 > > X. Ordering Clauses 459 > > Appendix A List of Commenters > > Appendix B Comment Summary > > Appendix C Final Rules > > STATEMENTS > Commissioner Quello > Commissioner Ness > Commissioner Chong > > > > > View/Download single-file HTML version of Entire Report > > > > > Pagination of the documents contained in these files may not match > that of the Official Paper Version when viewed or printed using your > system. > > > > navigation bar with links to FCC Homepage, Search, > Commissioners, Bureaus/Offices, and Finding Information > > > last updated 6/9/97 > ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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17 Dec '03

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Re: cryptix java AES effort
by Ian Grigg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam kindly forwarded the AES quest blurbs to interested and/or interesting groups. Some slight clarification is required in the detail of who and what. Adam said: > Systemics provides a BSD licensed (free for commercial and > non-commercial use) java crypto library called cryptix. A slight modification: Systemics provided, in the past tense. It was always the belief of those at Systemics at the time that selling crypto was extremely hard without contacts into big companies (in which case, you weren't selling crypto...). When Cryptix stabilised it was published as freeware with a BSD-style of license, with the hope that other people would pick it up and start to work with it. With the Java library this has happened. There is now a team of between 4 and 10 people, depending on how you count them, scattered across the globe, improving the core Cryptix code. Over the last year or so, we codified the notion of the independant group working around the library as the Cryptix Development Team. That is now spreading through the doco. ( There are a few issues such as copyright and the brand name, which are beyond the scope of this email. Whilst Systemics is not entirely passive in this area, it does not sell Cryptix code, although it might, and does, sell services such as improving Cryptix code. Also, those who work/have worked at Systemics are also part of the team. ) The AES quest is a Cryptix operation. I.e., Cryptix Development Team, and not Systemics. It is a completely unfunded (although sponsorship would be appreciated) and volunteer effort. Whilst the NIST people earn a salary, and most of the cryptographers are employed in this capacity as well, there is no especial interest in employing programmers here, as any rational company will simply wait until the winner is announced, sometime in the next millenium, and then employ an expert at $300 per hour to tell them all about it. Rationally or otherwise, we still need programmers to code up the algorithms and prepare them for submission to NIST. For many cryptographers, it is beyond their efficient capabilities to know much about the downstream discipline, so it makes sense for them to outsource the work to a team like Cryptix, especially as NIST has loaded up the submission requirements with 3 separate implementations. If you're thinking now's the time to branch into Java crypto, read the blurb and mail us. The rational part is that if you start now, you might be earning fat fees in a few years time. > http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/I.Brown/cryptix/aes/AES_crypt.html > http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/I.Brown/cryptix/aes/AES_prog.html -- iang systemics.com FP: 1189 4417 F202 5DBD 5DF3 4FCD 3685 FDDE on pgp.com

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attila & maureen on Bubba
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html><head> <title> Attila & Maureen on Clinton </title> <META name="Author" content="Attila T. Hun & Maureed Dowd"> <META name="Generator" CONTENT="by Attila's hand"> <META name="KeyWords" CONTENT="Clinton,Maureen,Dowd,oral,sex,scandal"> <META Name="Description" CONTENT="Comment on Maureen's comments on Clinton Oval Office Sex Scandal"> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Reply-to" CONTENT="attila(a)hun.org"> <META http-equiv="PICS-Label" content='(PICS-1.1 "http://www.classify.org/safesurf/" l by "attila(a)hun.org" r (SS~~000 3))'> </head> <body border=0 bgcolor="f0f0e0" text="black" link="blue" vlink="purple" alink="purple"> <a name="top"></a> <center> <table width=800 align=center valign=top cols=5> <tr height=5> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td align=left valign=middle>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td align=left valign=top> <center> Clinton's Achilles' Heel </center> <blockquote> well, this may finally do it for Clinton. if he was not so stupid, he would pack out of white house in the middle of the night, pick up his ill-gotten gains from Switzerland, or wherever he has them stashed, and disappear into the night --but, no, he might be forced to settle for Hillary-- which would be revenge served up cold --they deserve each other. if the Asian crisis was not in full rage, and the US market shaky with worry, we could afford to dump Clinton in the dumpster --unfortunately, the spectacle of an American President actually being successfully impeached will probably blow the American and European markets right out of the water --and the American economy with it --that just might be Clinton's lasting legacy. he may deserve that footnote in history, but the rest of us certainly do not. the NWO powers behind our "throne" may have needed a patsy after their main man became unelectable, but they certainly could have done better than bubba. you'd think they, or even the Democratic power bosses who were against him in the primaries would have done more evaluation of his bimbo patrol mentality before they committed. even I was a little skeptical of the "allegations" in the book "Primary Colors" (particularly to the Hillary affair) and I have been more than a little skeptical of the revelations of the "slave" courier/purveyors who have surfaced, but there may be more fire than smoke. it was certainly understandable why Joe Kline wrote the book as "Anonymous" --he must have been a cypherpunk-- or at least he should also have been using our anonymous remailers and nontracable digital cash. God save us from Al Bore. he needed to have a Spiro Agnew in his future, but Janet Reno saved his skin. he is a decent sort, but I just can not handle the left-leaning socialist son-of-a-bitch with his sanctimonious looks --he needs a circuit riding preacher's floppy hat and a mule-- even if he did go to Harvard. on the other hand, if Al Bore goes down, and they can not agree on a vice-president before Clinton either bales or is smoked out, we would have Newt --that might have been acceptable, except I think Newt either sold out or has been intimidated.    <a href="mailto:attila@hun.org"> attila out for the count.... </a></blockquote> January 25, 1998 NYTimes OpEd Columnist LIBERTIES / By MAUREEN DOWD Not Suitable for Children WASHINGTON -- There have been so many people rushing to TV studios in this giddy and cataclysmic week to talk about sex that networks are bringing makeup artists out of retirement. The palaver about whether a 21-year-old White House intern had a particular kind of sex with the President has gotten so graphic that CNN's "Inside Politics" Friday featured a warning that the segment might not be suitable for young viewers. Let's review what we've learned so far. The President a liar? Knew that. The President a philanderer? Knew that. The President reckless in the satisfaction of his appetites? Knew that. The President would say anything and hurt anybody to get out of a mess? Knew that. Married men cheat? Knew that. Married men cheat with young women? Knew that. Married men who cheat with young women lie about it? Knew that. Hillary isn't throwing Bill's stuff out on the White House lawn because she is as committed to their repugnant arrangement as he is? Knew that. The Clinton team -- those great feminists -- devising ways to discredit women who come forward with reports of Clinton peccadilloes? Knew that. The President and his minions dissembling and splitting hairs and playing semantic games and taking forever to find the documents until our attention wanders? Knew that. The President has the moxie to pick out a dress for a woman? Didn't know that. In the delirium of the scandal, something remarkable occurred. The President reportedly admitted, in a deposition to Paula Jones's lawyers, that, oh, yeah, by the way, he did have that affair with Gennifer Flowers, which he so adamantly denied during the '92 campaign. I still remember James Carville ranting at reporters for being low enough to pay any mind to her, calling it cash for trash. How can he go back on TV and defend Mr. Clinton in another sex scandal by once more trying to throw doubt on another damning tape? At least Mr. Carville looked sheepish. Mr. Clinton's famous rapid-response team seems to have bimbo-battle fatigue. The tapes of Monica Lewinsky, now 24, seem believable, not least because we heard it all before with Gennifer Flowers. Helping to get her a new job, telling her to say nothing went on if anyone asked. "Deny it," Mr. Clinton told Ms. Flowers on tape. "That's all. I mean, I expect them to come look into it and interview you and everything. But I just think if everybody's on record denying it, you've got no problem." The whole modus operandi is right there. Also, why did Vernon Jordan become a patron to a lowly Pentagon assistant if she was nothing special to the President? The reality that looms before the American people is not the impeachment of this President. It is the annulment of this President. He has finally determined his own place in history. He will be remembered as the priapic President. The Oval Office appears to be the bachelor pad of a married man who is the Commander in Chief. Like all addicts, this one is surrounded by enablers. Many Americans had accepted Mr. Clinton as a charming rogue. But the portrait that may be pieced together from the confessions of his willing and unwilling women now looks utterly uncharming. Ms. Lewinsky's nickname for him -- "the big creep" -- could stick. The Clinton doctrine may turn out to be nothing more than a view of the relationship of oral sex -- or Oval sex -- to adultery. CNN's Judy Woodruff reported that religious scholars could find no biblical basis for Mr. Clinton's purported claim to an Arkansas trooper that the Bible says oral sex is not cheating. Ted Koppel actually began "Nightline" Thursday with the following sentence: "It may . . . ultimately come down to the question of whether oral sex does or does not constitute adultery." Well, it sure isn't fidelity. When Mr. Clinton says now that he can't answer questions about sex, lies and tapes because he must hurry back to governance, people will want him to hurry back to self-governance instead. </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> </tr> <tr height=5> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td align=left valign=middle>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> </tr> </table></center></body></html>

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Re: Document destruction services (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi Igor, Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Document destruction services > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:09:36 -0600 (CST) > From: ichudov(a)Algebra.COM (Igor Chudov @ home) > This kind of paper does not burn very well. I have tried it. Burning it > in my fireplace will take forever. A drum is an option though. Is the additive to the paper alcohol soluble? If so soak it in alcohol for a few minutes, say a half hour, and then burn it. Should go quite well. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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