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RE: [PGP-USERS-4748]: Legality in Canada
by Your Yashy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, H. M. wrote: > >I think you should perhaps read a little more maboy... > > I know I should, and I do. Never claimed to be a guru or else, did I? I > just said what I knew, ie. gave my opinion (even if I am a newbie), which is > something you obviously don't like. Perhaps you didn't read (sic) that I > kept using "I think", "I believe", "I guess", etc. instead of "I STATE". Perhaps you didn't read the 411 for the PGP-Mailing-List. I don't recall it saying "Ask unrelated questions if your a newbie." IMO anyone interested in "2600" groups can find 411 all over the www. also there are alt.2600 newsgroups, as well as other places. I personally wouldn't even mind if you kept it off the list and asked if I knew what 2600 is, but trying to "teach" ppl what you "think" 2600 is.. has no place on this mailing list. > >...with any "group" nowadays, there is a FAQ avaliable for > >newbies etc (obviously like yourself). > ... others just know ever since... never were newbies, hey? You don't know how to read? > >They are not "supposedly hackers and phreakers". Aso the > >debatable issure of exact translation of a hacker, IMO it > >is anyone that has altered ANY program. > The issue of exact translation should be, perhaps, discussed on a grammar, > language, or else mailing list if it is to start a flame. I have no interest in starting a flame, you have embarrased yourself well enough. > >p.s. If it wasn't for hackers, you wouldn't have the > >technology you have. > If it wasn't for you... am I in front of a top developer or similar? Sorry, If I simply wrote the 2600 faq (which I didnt) it would have bettered society, because idiots would have an idea what it is. > I didn't notice, all I can see is a squared 14'' screen. Well, obviously you stumbled upon a keyboard as well, prematurely perhaps. > >OH what you've read on the beloved www. I'd imagine you > >read an article on a webpage full of sex ad banners as > >well. I don't feel that I am an "outlawed hero" but I feel > >I better society in various ways. > You see, you just imagine (as I "guessed, believed,..."), and that's a good > thing (even imagining with a sick mind... > sex add banners?). As for bettering society... how? trying to scare people > away so that you are THE ONE with the know-how? I'm not trying to "scare you away". (you'd know if I was "trying"). > > >As I've already said, you have alot more reading to do. > I'm sure if we ever get to meet each other, you'll teach me a lot and > perhaps lighten me... meanwhile, I'll just try to learn away from those like > you, I'll leave psycotic tales for others, if you don't mind me to. I'll help you with anything I can, off-list. In the meantime, read. > I never said or stated hackers or the like are to be prosecuted or else, > never tried to raise a moral nor > ethical argument about, I just posed a question on (personal) security. Pretending you have an idea on what 2600 is not related to security. (Although the 2600 group irnoically does). > Most of all I DID NOT try to raise a flame by annoying anyone. If you are > up to it, or if you believe you are Robin Hood (or Rob Hack for this > matter), I don't give a monkey about it, just visit your psychiatrist, or > talk to a priest/ess if you have a religion, or wait for the green people to > come fetch you up. As I've just said, I won't get involved on a flame with > you, so don't bother to answer, I won't do it at all. Perhaps if you reply off-list or try stop trying to pull your head out of toilet, I'll leave you alone. > > I apologize to others on this list for this, but I felt I had to answer once as all newbies do. > (no more, promised). promise? > > > H. Menezo Ganau > homega(a)vlc.servicom.es > homega(a)latinmail.com > > > DH/DSS (1024/1024) > Key ID: 0x614DB9FA > > RSA (2048) > Key ID: 0x160B1B5B > - -shareware email coutesy of yashy- -send $10 cdn funds if you read it- email@reply irc@ircnet #italy icq@4497826 pgpID@ 0xD0186E85 pubring(a)www.chat.carleton.ca/~nmarion home@ottawa canada sleep@7am - - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNStBoT8rI+jQGG6FAQERswP9E+9LM1fzlMQWAMyUiDjq+n//37jEmTfl VUR5LhdPSwCf1zF7sBe+WVHvHSYWVJ5/0K/mu/j7htmb2rL6PqwcP8OyjLxQo6/M 4N/7WAI7vtsojLP5ubqoPHnx5eBgPRPF7vIRDuhw7Br0KflqFaSPeL8H2rPBWXNl YR5H1r5OAjg= =d5s8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Thanks for the mammaries...
by CJ Parker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

First, I would like to express my appreciation for the fact that every single subscriber to the cypherpunks distributed mailing lists has chosen to participate in the opening salvo (on April 19, 1998, 9:02 a.m.) of the Digital Revolution. Unfortunately, I ratted you all out earlier today. I'm sorry, but the Men In Really Dirty White threatened to tell my mom, if I didn't confess. Although mom has been dead for quite some time, my knee-jerk programming kicked in (pardon the pun). The good news is that I exposed Bill Gates as the RingLeader of the highly illegal conspiracy of which you are all a part, so at least you should have some deep-pockets on your side when THEY (TM) kick in your door. I will be entering the Witless Projection Pogrom shortly, so I suppose that there is no harm in revealing that my original persona on the cypherpunks list, the one you have all known me by for quite some time, is Blanc Weber. I'm sorry I've been deceiving you all with my various Toto and TruthMonger personas, but during my volunteer work at the Handle Institute, I was infected with Tourette Syndrome from a dirty needle (while *sewing*, you cynical little cocksuckers!). I am also the one who has been sending the ASCII-art spams to the list. Dimitri was completely innocent, and you all should feel terrible about the way you treated him. I know that all of the list subscribers will carry on with the TRIN plan on April 19th because they are truly committed to the violent overthrow of all governments, and not just because I made it with all of you under the guise of my Lynne Harrison persona. (Personal note to Human Gus-Peter: No, I'm not wearing any panties...) I feel particularly bad about ratting out our Philosopher King, Tim C. May, since he was such a great help to me under his Dale Thorn and John Young personas. I also ratted out Adam Back for his part in the murder of Princess Diana, but it backfired when he was secretly Knighted hours later, by the Queen Mother (No! not John Gilmore, you fucking idiots!) Anyway, before signing off, I would like to inform you that my real opinion of all of you who responded to my Toto and TruthMonger posts is about the same as the opinion of Billy Crystal (when he was on 'Soap') in regard to all of the fucking idiots who finally connected to the ClueServer, slapped themselves on the forehead, and said, "What am I doing? I'm arguing with a *dummy*!" It's been real... Love & XXXX's, Blanc Weber "I'm not an asshole, but I play one in real life." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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17 Dec '03

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Re: IMPORTANT: Gary L. Burnore is a Sex Offender!
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Camille Klein <godmom(a)nina.pagesz.net> wrote: > In triangle.general Information Security <The(a)NSA.sucks> wrote: > > : Someone Vulis can actually call "pedophile child molester" > : and be accurate??? > > No. > > I won't go into the details, but effectively it's a load of bullshit that > unfortunately is being used to cause Gary Burnore some real problems. I > have to agree with Hank on this--IF it's at all possible, I hope he can > have some legal recourse. I visited the http://sbi.jus.state.nc.us/sor/ website, did a search for "Gary Burnore", and the story is confirmed. If it were a "load of bullshit", I suspect that Gary would have had it hauled away by now. There's even a mugshot there. Gary Burnore, of course, is welcome to post his side of the story if he cares to. The date listed for his conviction is about the same time that Gary Burnore was whining about some "anon asshole" whom he alleged had falsely accused him of molesting his live-in girlfriend's teenage daughter. She lived -- guess where -- in Santa Clara, CA. It looks like Gary's rampage to get a couple of anonymous remailers shut down for spreading "libel" was bogus. If a story is true, it isn't libel. And when he couldn't get them to censor embarassing posts to usenet, the made-to-order "spam baiting" mysteriously appeared, and finally finished the job. Just a coincidence, I suppose... Let me guess -- this "conspiracy" to make Gary Burnore look bad has now infiltrated the Santa Clara Police Dept., the San Francisco Police Dept., and the North Carolina attorney general's office? By definition, Gary Burnore is innocent of ANYTHING he's accused of. <g> And since this is the same Gary Burnore who was so adamant that posting publicly-available information to usenet was acceptable: Registration Status: Registered Possible Violations: None Reported BURNORE,GARY LEE Alias Names: BURNORE,GARY LEE Photo Date: 08-27-1997 SRN: 001693S3 Reported Date: 12-16-1997 Address Verified: NO Street: 4201 BLAND ROAD APT J City: RALEIGH State: NC Zip: 27609 County: WAKE Race: W Sex: M Height: 5'08" Weight: 170 LBS. Hair: BRO Eyes: BLU Birth Date(s): 10-13-1957 Scars, marks, tattoos: State ID #: FBI #: Dept. Corr. #: Contact County: WAKE Registration Date: 08-27-1997 Conviction Date: 03-13-1997 Release Date: NC Statute: 14-202.1 - INDECENT LIBERTY MINOR Sentence Imposed: PROBATION: 3Y Court County: - SANTA CLARA, CA Reported Date: 08-27-1997 Address Verified: NO Street: 4201 BLAND ROAD City: RALEIGH State: NC Zip: 27609 County: WAKE

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CIA Joins MCC
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There's a recent notice that the CIA has become an associate member of the Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation <www.mcc.com>, the research consortium of several high-tech firms located in Austin. The notice also lists a project there called "InfoSleuth." See the notice (among other national security opportunities) at: http://jya.com/nso040898.htm A reporter working on the story has asked for any information on the CIA enrollment and InfoSleuth. Send it to her, or to me if a cut-out is needed: Heather Harreld, senior reporter covering security at Federal Computer Week in Washington. heather(a)fcw.com

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Cell Phones of State
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The State Dept Press Briefing today: MR. RUBIN: I'm sorry I didn't come earlier, and I didn't know that cell phones were permitted in the briefing room, but I guess they are. Remember that phrase "cell phones", it will come back in the next 24 hours. Nothing else about it during the briefing. Curious, unless it refers to the Senate's approval on April 1 of S.493, The Wireless Telephone Protection Act, which incorported amendments by the House of HR 2460, and that Clinton is expected to sign it shortly. Still, maybe State is going to announce something more dramatic about SIGINT. See S.493: http://jya.com/s493.txt

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MCC Projects
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

MCC's InfoSleuth 1 and 2, as well as a host of intriguing intelligence, surveillance and lots of prying, hiding, and TA projects are listed and linked at: http://www.mcc.com/projects/government.html The IC booty is plentiful in Austin, hooray for the cpunks there. Time for an international get together deep in the heart of Tejas.

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House Democrats, ACLU criticize Clinton on crypto stand
by ddt＠lsd.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is some value in having a 900-pound software industry gorilla like NAI pushing at the foolishness of current export policy in a 100% legal way: it demonstrates to more and more of the citizenry (and business leaders with influence) just how empty, archaic and damaging to US interests that the current policies are. It also gives Loyal Members of the Opposition such as the House Demo's and the ACLU ample "ammunition" (excuse the expression) to discuss the details of said Administration foolishness in full public view. [ Excerpts below from ACLU's CYBER-LIBERTIES UPDATE 7 April 98 ] [ for more details, see <http://www.aclu.org/issues/cyber/updates.html> ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ House Democrats Criticize Clinton Position on Encryption Twelve Democratic members of Congress last week sent a letter to President Clinton telling him that they "strongly support legislation that would substantially reform the Administration's export restrictions on American-made encryption products." The letter further states that the members are not satisfied with the Administration's decision to attempt to resolve the current impasse on its position on encryption by holding meetings with industry rather than through legislation. The letter also criticizes the administration's position on encryption requiring strict restrictions on export of encryption programs despite the widespread global availability and the impact of such restrictions on privacy and commerce. The letter further states: Two developments in only the last two weeks illustrate the futility in banning encryption's export or use. Network Associates, the nation's largest independent maker of computer security software, has announced that its Dutch subsidiary will sell an international version of its strongest encryption program. In addition, an MIT scientist, Ronald Rivest, has just proposed a new technique for securing computer files and communications, called "chaffing and winnowing," which doesn't involve encryption at all. The point is that the Administration can hardly control the proliferation or direction of technology in the digital age. Consequently, the discussions with industry will succeed only if the Administration commits itself in these discussions to a major overhaul of its current export policies and to policies that do not mandate or compel domestic controls on encryption. Rather, government should recognize that in the coming decades the protection of our nation's critical infrastructure and national security interests demand foremost that American industry retain its global leadership in the digital arena. A strong domestic high-tech industry -- in cooperation with national security agencies and law enforcement officials which have been granted sufficient resources by our government for meeting the challenges of the digital age -- is the foremost priority for ensuring American security and global leadership in the Information Age." The letter was signed by the following Members of Congress: Richard A. Gephardt, M.C. Zoe Lofgren, M.C. Vic Fazio, M.C. Martin Frost, M.C. Sam Gejdenson, M.C. John Conyers, Jr., M.C. Edward J. Markey, M.C. Anna G. Eshoo, M.C. Rick Boucher, M.C. Calvin M. Dooley, M.C. James P. Moran, M.C. Adam Smith, M.C. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ACLU Report Challenges Clinton Scare Tactics on Encryption Charging that the Clinton Administration is using scare tactics to acquire vast new powers to spy on all Americans, the ACLU has begun circulating a white paper on the escalating battles over wiretapping in the digital age to key members of Congress. The new ACLU report -- Big Brother in the Wires -- says that the current struggle over cryptography policy holds far-reaching and possibly irrevocable consequences for all Americans. It makes an impassioned case for limiting the government's ability to seize and review private communications -- whether they are telephone conversations, FAX messages, electronic mail, electronic fund transfers or medical records -- by permitting the use of strong encryption. The report comes as Congress grapples with fundamental disagreements over encryption policy. On one side of the policy impasse are the law enforcement and national security agencies -- the Justice Department, the FBI, the National Security Council, the Drug Enforcement Agency and many state and local agencies. On the other side are the communications industry, the country's leading cryptographers and computer scientists and civil liberties and privacy advocates. "We are now at an historic crossroads," the report says. "We can use emerging technologies to protect our personal privacy, or we can succumb to scare tactics and to exaggerated claims about the law enforcement value of electronic surveillance and give up our cherished rights, perhaps forever." "If President Clinton and federal law enforcement authorities have their way, new technology will make possible a much more intrusive and omniscient level of surveillance than has ever been possible before," said ACLU Legislative Counsel Gregory T. Nojeim. "Congress must reject this blatant power grab and keep Big Brother out of our wires." The ACLU report can be found at: http://www.aclu.org/issues/cyber/wiretap_brother.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -end excerpts-

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CoE/AoD Notice!
by CJ Parker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: CoE/AoD Notice Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:12:14 -0600 From: TruthMonger <tm(a)dev.null> Organization: "It's not FUD until *I* say it's FUD!" To: bianca(a)dev.null CC: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Toto's computers were seized today by RCMP and Canadian Customs. All communications with him, past, present and future, should be considered compromised. Reroute the legal information, etc., that he requested Monday to the sonofgomez address. The good news is...he figured out where the 'yellow wire' goes... TruthMonger709 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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I Broke PGP...sorry!
by CJ Parker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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