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Irony
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:19 PM 10/23/98 +0200, Mok-Kong Shen wrote: >> Dear Friend, > >I don't know the English term but in my native language what is >described is call 'chaining letters', supposed to be a method to >become rich very rapidly. That was illegal, though. In my language we have something called humor, which some taxonomize with terms like irony, sarcasm, wit, etc.

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No Subject
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 6:00 PM -0400 on 10/23/98, Somebody wrote: > This looks like spam, except it is coming from a list regular. > Someone spoofing you? No, actually they aren't. I have no connection with the Von Mises institute, either. However, if you don't want to shell out big bucks for an archival quality version (and help a good cause in the process) you should at least go to your library, and, if they don't have a (not-so spiffy :-)) version of von Mises' _Human Action_ there, you should have them Inter-Library loan it for you. Another great book in the same vein, actually better, as a first read, is Friedrich Hayek's _The Road to Serfdom_. Another famous 50-year old book, pissed upon by statists and leftists for generations, and only now being seen as one of the best economic books of the century. The most recent edition even has a forward by Milton Freidman. (Hayek won the Nobel just like Freidman did, but I don't remember if von Mises did.) Austrian-school economists rule, d00dz. Enjoy! Cheers, Bob Hettinga -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5.5 iQEVAwUBNjEADcUCGwxmWcHhAQFn2QgAj8uZUgaJ7FqAPeFw1XAnUW1TNWETzySc ATtgkQvzdfJeeq+ROHlzBWnIdoBFJY3RNfyd9Fj1jgumACWivbFhPP32ZhgBscxM AwCFXmU0FK5Sg2uJNKNxbIkFWFUuGRWib6GCl2dTybM07O5tv10ZaMNHuwNfIwpz TlcoB74CZdBc5MCh1gD0z0p4rzlByzB5e3HxZEDfCyaA/IIckMBvAhrEALktqalW pBIDOJ2/os1MM/zqYq+HaWA27UekRFWWupn0SI+15klH0uEf9ODKMmyoV5oUhtPM pFosbkjqd90dF8mDLeaIVn+2yiJe0A49OHH9NhBc/Wa5MrTzqSaokw== =rOM2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: Mildly opinionated rambling on the computer/boardgame flamewar (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:48:37 -0500 > From: "David \"Inky\" Scott" <daves(a)interoz.com> > Subject: Re: Mildly opinionated rambling on the computer/boardgame flamewar > I've said it before and I'll say it again. You can't send a computer to > the corner store for snacks and drinks. Nor can six or seven players > easily cluster around a computer game all at once and be working on > setting up their next turn/movement/etc. Nor is computer gaming a truly > social gathering, which is the primary reason why many of us play these > games. Well *current* games certainly aren't. But that is no indication they must be that way. A good example platform that is currently available is Beowulf Linux. If each player were to ethernet their machines via a hub then they would all in effect be participating in a game equivalent in human interaction to any boardgame. This would allow the concept of distributed game servers. If you're only playing on your machine it's going to be limited. As the number of machines increases the capability goes up as well. Of course it could be done over regular machines without the support in the kernel. Set up an api that provides access to an analog of the 'r' commands in Unix. Then the necessary graphics and sound engines, graphics libraries, rules engine, ai. Change the graphics libraries, rules engine, and ai and you have a completely different game. This would allow two different modes of playfield geometry. One would be where every player has an identical map. Another would be where each player has a different map and they are edge-to-edge according to some algorithm (which wouldn't have to be Cartesian). Have the basic structure of the game be a 3 dimension, time enabled (it has a game clock) array. By changing the scale of the display 'unit cube' play at different levels could be engaged in. When you're networked to other players your local ai might give you hints or suggestions, or the ai's could take on the role of moderator. Maket he basic interface webable and you're ready to go. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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ITAR and Codebreaking
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know how ITAR applies to cryptographic source code which can not directly be used to encrypt or decrypt files? Specifically, do we need to do some horrible export-controlled thing for source code which contains a very straightforward reference implementation of DES, and whose output is a file of integers defining a satisfiability problem instantated for a specific plaintext/ciphertext pair? If the answer to this question is "yes," would someone be willing to donate a few meg on an export-controlled crypto site that we could link to? Many thanks. -- Sponsor the DES Analytic Crack Project http://www.cyberspace.org/~enoch/crakfaq.html

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Re: Mildly opinionated rambling on the computer/boardgame flamewar (fwd) (OOOPS...)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry for that. My fingers had a mind of their own...;) ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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17 Dec '03

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by palmdevcon＠palm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Big Brother Netscape
by Pallas Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Summary: Netscape's "what's related" is a backdoor for Netscape to monitor your surfing. --forwarded text--------------------------------------------------------- >From "Flemming S. Johansen" <fsj(a)terma.com> on BUGTRAQ(a)netspace.org Starting with version 4.06, the Netscape browser has a new "What's Related?" button next to the Location: field. After having tried it in the new 4.5, I am more than a little worried by the functionality behind it. Briefly, the user clicks on this button, and is presented with a list of sites which are hopefully related to the page currently on display, plus some ads for Netscape. As far as I have been able to deduce (helped by a packet sniffer), this works by opening a HTTP connection to www-rl.netscape.com and making a query modelled on this template: GET /wtgn?CurrentURL/ HTTP/1.0, where CurrentUrl is the URL of the page currently displayed. The server responds with a list of URLs it believe to be related. There are four modes for this function, settable through preferences->navigator->smart browsing: - "Always" The browser always downloads the list of 'related' URLS, beginning while the page in question is loading. - "Never" The browser starts downloading the list of 'related' URLS when the user clicks on the 'What's related?' button. - "After first use" Automatically fetches the URL list for a page if the user has ever clicked the button for that page. - Completely disabled. The default setting is "Always". So, the unsuspecting user who upgrades to the latest Netscape will automatically and unknowingly begin sending out a detailed log of pages viewed. Netscapes privacy statement notwithstanding, I don't like the fact that anyone is able to compile a list of every single web page I visit. I don't like the fact that someone with a sniffer anywhere on the path from here to netscape.com is able to do so either. And the company I work for is not too thrilled about the name of every single document on our internal, not-for-public-viewing web server leaking out on the Net, once our users begin installing this release on their PCs. I would like to control this "feature" globally for my LAN, but as far as I can see, there are only two ways of doing it: Fascist control of Netscape preferences settings on every PC on my LAN, or block www-rl.netscape.com in the firewall. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Flemming S. Johansen fsj(a)terma.com

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Re: so, what did Toto *do*, exactly to get locked up? (Re: rules of en
by DOOM Anonymous Untraceable User 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Back wrote: > Anonymous wrote: > > Adam Back wrote: > > > That is to say, I suspect that Jim would not have been locked up if he > > > had not a) used false social security numbers, b) not been involved > > > with fake courts, c) not collected IRS employees home addresses, and > > > d) not planted the stink bomb. > > > > And, more importantly, if crypto-anachy and removal of governments > > weren't on the cypherpunk agenda. > ... > It is difficult to tell exactly why Jim was incarcerated because the > IRS people may have alternate motives. However, I suspect Jim Bell's > woes are more to do with involvement with the fake courts, and the use > of real IRS employees names and addresses, which was then taken to be > an immediate threat, taken with the AP rant printout they found in his > car. I presume in reality he just collected the addresses to have the > fake court serve them with some legal documents. I also presume the > reason the IRS first got interested in Jim was due to tax evasion, > and/or fake court documents addressed to IRS agents. The fake court, addresses, AP manifesto are all part of one point being made. There is no threat. Any court can see that (if it doesn't choose not to). And we do have a system of "reasonable doubt". Did fake SS#s alone justify incarceration? Hmmm. Dunno. crypto-anarchy sounds scary, better be safe... > > Toto is more interesting. He seems to have been incarcerated because > he tried to stick up for Jim Bell. What did he do? Set up an AP bot > mockup, put the same IRS employees names, and a judge (I presume the > judge that handled Jim's case) on the page with $ amounts beside them. ... > Also what I am saying is that it makes it hard to defend people if > they have done any number of dumb things which are the ostensible > reason they are locked up. I have no problem with that. I'll defend Jim Bell's AP rants, the use of fake courts and addresses to flesh out the details. Peripheral crimes don't make me ashamed to say "these things here are free speech". I stated a similar view in a post a while ago about Clinton: that peripheral issues are irrelevant. My principle was unpopular then, but I hope it gets more support when looking at Jim/Toto. I'm outraged that mischievous acts would get higher penalty just because these guys believe in the cypherpunk agenda. Or make unpopular speech relating to those beliefs. We also have people who *have* kept their noses clean being harassed. It's an excuse to put some pressure on CDRs. It even had the effect of shaking loose a lot of the Austin cypherpunks in a nice little divide and conquer action. And it's likely they have subpoenaed more people than we've heard from. I just hope they don't subpoena Bill Payne, or we'll receive a copy of it every week for years to come. > > > > Similarly with Toto, the rants would have been ok, without a) the > > > mockup non-functional "bomb" symbolically planted in the court house > > > basement or where-ever it was, b) using real IRS employees, and judges > > > names in his rant (apparently in support of Jim Bell), c) having > > > tourettes syndrome. > > > > The rants are ok anyway. They are clearly metaphors. But the > > prosecutors aren't playing fair. The man is "dangerous". And not > > because he wrote "bomb" in crayon on a cardboard box. But because he > > made waves. Waves that we caught. Waves that the straights and > > sheeple might catch. Correct that. Waves that will upset the straights and sheeple. > > I'd be interested in opinions on why they locked up Toto. The legal > docs John Young obtained and put on up on the web (look at the bottom > of http://www.jya.com cryptome page for `Carl Johnson'), says that it > is because he made a threat. > > What about the following excerpt from the Toto post below could be > construed to constitute a danger, or did Toto get locked up because he > walked right up to the IRS and said "Fuck You", and "here I am come > and get me". The John Gilmore subpoena was focussed exclusively on cypherpunk email. Jim Choate confirmed his is much the same. So the focus is on what we've all seen posted here. Personally, I found them a lot milder than Reeza!'s projection of his suicide fantasies, for instance. > > I have inserted the odd comment. Anyone like to comment on how likely > a case by the IRS based on this post by `Toto' is to stick? The AP > bot mockup I think was clearly not a credible threat, it was > completely non-functional. > > Adam [Toto repost snipped] Well, there's certainly nothing threatening anyone at whitehouse.gov, which explains why they aren't prosecuting. I didn't think there was any credible threat. Even the talk about fighting censorship by acting in MeatSpace could mean he'll talk to people in person if his internet use is compromised. That's the way I read it the first time. If it were a threat, who is it against? At worst you'd have to talk about Toto as having made a public nuisance. He's already served more time than that's worth. Even taking one post out of the Toto stream is misleading. You have to consider the style of writing. Did space aliens really steal his drugs? Or does he speak in metaphor? If Toto's full of shit, you must acquit. The only threat is of cypherpunks against the IRS's relevance.

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17 Dec '03

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