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Power Outage in San Fransisco/bay area
by Max Inux 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well, we are going on hour 4 now, most of the power is back. One group of 2-4 employees caused it they say. This was admitted 3 hours later, and then they knew 15 minutes after it happens.. typical. They expect to be back on by this afternoon On the Shell Building at 8:30AM "Building closed, no power. Power will not be restored for 6-8 hours." I wonder how they knew. The estimate is probably about right too, wierd. The mission village sub-station has been re-oppened, and most peoples power is now being revived. Funny how 2-4 people not following procedure were able to shut down 4 substations. Looks like PG&E have lots of work ahead to find out the cause/effect of this type action. Max -- Max Inux <maxinux(a)openpgp.net> New DH and RSA keys Generated. Kinky Sex makes the world go round If crypto is outlawed only outlaws will have crypto

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Altavista hacked
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It appears that www.altaviata.com has been hacked. Begin Quote: If you are looking for pornographic material (naked people) please Click Here Else please check back with us soon, we are under construction. Thanks. End Quote Resolving *.digital.com DNS entries seems impossible. Any ideas? Wish DNSsec was deployed, it might of prevented this.

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RE: The problem with 'Gilmore's RSAREF' site... (fwd)
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Further, he's not willing to extend his legal protection to help > others. Has there been any indication that the EFF would not support or help someone being persecuted for crypto-export disobedience? I wouldn't rely on such charity, nor is charity ever obligatory (that's socialism), but what reason do you have to discount it? The essence of civil disobedience is many many individual targets, not one organization. > When is YOUR CDR node going up Fine, if that is the source if your righteousness, I will put one up 1Q99. I won't even play the my network is bigger than your network pissing match, but I will put my money where my mouth is if you think hosting a list node is that big of a deal. I'm am not critical of any contribution, but I will be critical of someone chastising others contributions simply because they would do it differently. A call to arms to protect liberty is not a draft. If you don't want a gun, then don't take it, I won't even call you a Tory. Matt

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RE: The problem with 'Gilmore's RSAREF' site... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: The problem with 'Gilmore's RSAREF' site... (fwd) > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:26:52 -0800 > > Further, he's not willing to extend his legal protection to help > > others. > > Has there been any indication that the EFF would not support or help someone > being persecuted for crypto-export disobedience? I wouldn't rely on such I've asked many times from the local chapter and the answer was always no. The EFF has certainly never offered legal support to anyone in the 8 years or so they've been in existance, well other than Steve Jackson perhaps (I'm not sure if the EFF helped defray any of his court costs). > charity, nor is charity ever obligatory (that's socialism), but what reason > do you have to discount it? > > The essence of civil disobedience is many many individual targets, not one > organization. You should look into the history of civil disobedience then. The ONLY time it works is when it is done via mass involvement. The NAACP and ACLU have been quite effective within their limited areas of interest. Your understanding of the history of civil disobedience is skewed at best. > I'm am not critical of any contribution, but I will be critical of someone > chastising others contributions simply because they would do it differently. > A call to arms to protect liberty is not a draft. If you don't want a gun, > then don't take it, I won't even call you a Tory. Then you should rethink your approach. Somebody asking to put your neck on the block while they won't with their own is no contributor. I believe back in the War of Indipendence THOSE people were called Tory. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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by a14u＠a14u.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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FW: Survey Says Kids Feel 'Threatened' By Real Life
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A survey has suggested that up to one and a half million British children may have been upset by something they have heard or read. The NOP poll shows that one in five of nearly 4,000 children between the ages of six and 16 interviewed for the survey between September and October this year were "uncomfortable" with the state of world affairs. In the UK, 7.2 million children are estimated to be exposed to the outside world - roughly 98% of all children between six and 16. Of those who have had negative experiences while being outside the home, the largest proportion - 40% - had seen something "rude". 'Not surprised' One in seven said they had encountered information that had "freightened them", while 25% heard ideas that "would get them into trouble". NOP Associate Director Rob Lawson described the numbers as a "significant minority". The children's charity NCH Action for Children suggested the survey strengthened calls for censorship to protect younger people. Charity spokesman John Carr said: "I regret to say I'm not surprised by this survey's findings, it's what we have been saying for some time. Censors "Parents need to know their children are learning in safety and security. At the moment, they have no way of knowing that at all." NCH Action for Children, which advises the government on children's issues, backs the introduction of censors - people who filter out ideas unsuitable for children. The survey, called Kids.net, was paid for by Microsoft, the NSA, the GOP, China, and MCI/Worldcom in syndicate. The Department of Trade and Industry's forthcoming review on Internet regulation is expected to be published before Christmas. [satire on news from news.bbs.co.uk]

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Officers face suspension for email offenses: Half of Town's Police Force Involved
by Max Inux 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Chief cleans house after half the Department makes fun of him via email on Patrol Car Computer Terminals (PDC's)... (Plus it's a rally cool website - listen to police scanners while you read FBI FOIA files on people like Frank Sinatra). OAKLAND, N.J. (APB) -- Half of this small borough's police force may be suspended for allegedly using computer terminals in their patrol cars to send one another disrespectful comments about the chief and the borough. http://www.apbonline.com/911/1998/12/06/oakland1206_1.html

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FW: Survey Says Kids Feel 'Threatened' By Real Life
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ack, I missed one. Revised: ---------- Subject: FW: Survey Says Kids Feel 'Threatened' By Real Life A survey has suggested that up to one and a half million British children may have been upset by something they have heard or read. The NOP poll shows that one in five of nearly 4,000 children between the ages of six and 16 interviewed for the survey between September and October this year were "uncomfortable" with the state of world affairs. In the UK, 7.2 million children are estimated to be exposed to the outside world - roughly 98% of all children between six and 16. Of those who have had negative experiences while being outside the home, the largest proportion - 40% - had seen something "rude". 'Not surprised' One in seven said they had encountered information that had "freightened them", while 25% heard ideas that "would get them into trouble". NOP Associate Director Rob Lawson described the numbers as a "significant minority". The children's charity NCH Action for Children suggested the survey strengthened calls for censorship to protect younger people. Charity spokesman John Carr said: "I regret to say I'm not surprised by this survey's findings, it's what we have been saying for some time. Censors "Parents need to know their children are learning in safety and security. At the moment, they have no way of knowing that at all." NCH Action for Children, which advises the government on children's issues, backs the introduction of censors - people who filter out ideas unsuitable for children. The survey, called Kids.net, was paid for by Microsoft, the NSA, the GOP, China, and MCI/Worldcom in syndicate. The Department of Trade and Industry's forthcoming review on Thought regulation is expected to be published before Christmas. [satire on news from news.bbs.co.uk]

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Re: Power Outage in San Fransisco/bay area (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:51:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Max Inux <maxinux(a)bigfoot.com> > Subject: Re: Power Outage in San Fransisco/bay area (fwd) > On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Jim Choate wrote: > >Damn, you beat me to it. I was going to post something about a dry run for > >Y2K in San Fran. > > > >Any rioting? > > Suprisingly, no looting, major accideents (Only one was in the unaffected > Fremont) by Mowry... dont go towards NAI or Great America ;-) Thanks for the feedback. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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wassenar crypto agrmt/wiretapping
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Jonathan David Boyne <boyne(a)hawaii.edu> To: Undisclosed recipients:; Subject: [exploration] The Wassenaar Invasion of Privacy (fwd) >from: >http://www.zolatimes.com/V2.41/pageone.html ><A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V2.41/pageone.html">Laissez Faire City Times >- Volume 2 Issue 41</A> >The Laissez Faire City Times >December 7, 1998 - Volume 2, Issue 41 >Editor & Chief: Emile Zola >----- >The Wassenaar Invasion of Privacy > >by J. Orlin Grabbe > > >>From the first moment it proclaimed the "information superhighway", the >Clinton administration has waged a wholesale assault on Internet free >speech and privacy. > >The latest blow is the Clinton administration's strong- arming of the 32 >fellow countries of the Wassenaar Arrangement to agree to an export ban >on strong cryptographic (data scrambling) software. The net effect will >be to make it easier for each government to read its own citizen's email >and other private documents. > >Normally if a nation attempts to restrict the domestic sale of strong >encryption software, that attempt is made ineffective by the >availability of strong encryption software from other countries. But >such software won't be available anymore--at least not from one of the >Wassenaar countries, once they have enacted local legislation to >implement the terms of the Wassenaar agreement of December 2. > >The Wassenaar Arrangement is supposed to be an intergovernmental >agreement to restrict international traffic in arms. What does this have >to do with encryption? Simply this: the US government still holds that >secret-code-producing software is a munition. So if you encrypt your >letters and files, and the government hasn't given you permission to use >that caliber encryption, then the person who gave you the encryption >software may be in violation of some regulation on arms dealing. > >"They've plugged a loophole," gleefully proclaimed Ambassador David >Aaron, the President's Special Envoy for Cryptology. The day following >the agreement, the US Department of Commerce issued a press release in >which Aaron spouts gobble-de-gook phrases about a "level playing field" >and about balancing "commercial and privacy interests with national >security and public safety concerns" (see Appendix A for Commerce Dept. >press statement). > >How has this agreement supposedly created a "level playing field" and >helped U.S. industry? Well, namely, by censoring foreign publishers of >cryptology software in the same way that the US government already >censors US publishers. This is similar to arguing that by increasing >tyranny in surrounding countries, we can create a "level playing field" >for freedom. > >"It's ironic, but the US government is leading the charge >internationally to restrict personal privacy and individual liberty >around the world," said Alan Davidson, a staff counsel at the Center for >Democracy and Technology, according to Reuters (see Appendix B for >Reuter's news release). > >A restriction on cryptology is a restriction on free speech. In the >Second World War, the US used native Navaho speakers for secure >communications. Since no one else understood the language, it served as >a powerful secret code. But is what you speak or write in an email >message suddenly not speech or language if the government can't >understand it? If your message says "Xu23MN iilc]z MNBl", does the >government suddenly have the right to imprison you for writing >gibberish? > >While the clear answer is No, nevertheless the US government thinks it >has the right to restrict your "gibberish" if it is produced by >encryption software that it can't crack. The Wassenaar agreement says >encryption software that is "weak" (less than 56 bit keys in some cases, >or less than 64 bit keys in others), so that the government can >unscramble and read the real message underneath the gibberish, is okay, >and in fact frees up some export restrictions on this type of software. >The trade-off? Greater restrictions on software that produces secret >code the government can't read. > >Arms control. It sounds wonderful, doesn't it? Go over to the Wassenaar > web page and take a look. High nobility of purpose, right? "We're >keeping those guns away from the Indians," they proclaim. But what they >mean to say is: "We fully intend to read what is written on the hard >drive of your computer." > >Posting to the cypherpunks mailing list, Timothy May noted: > >I recently heard T. J. Rodgers, CEO of Cypress Semiconductor, repeat his >oft-made point that Silicon Valley and the high tech industry gains >nothing by talking to Washington. That as soon as dialog is started with >Washington, things get worse. This applies as well to crypto, to gun >rights, to everything. Everything Washington touches turns to statist >shit. > >Is there any good news? Enabling legislation has to be enacted in each >country to carry out the terms of the Wassenaar agreement. Raising a hue >and cry with legislators over this latest invasion of privacy should >have a positive effect. > >In the meantime, Mr. "Information Superhighway" Al Gore is poised for a >presidential run, so he can continue to ignore privacy concerns and bend >over for the Big Brother agencies of the national security >establishment. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Related Links > >The End of Ordinary Money: Part 1 >The End of Ordinary Money: Part 2 > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Appendix A: Commerce Dept. Press Release > > >UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE NEWS > >International Trade Administration > >Washington, DC > >For Immediate Release >Tuesday, December 3, 1998 > >Contact: Maria Harris Tildon > (202)482-3809 > Sue Hofer > (202)482-2721 > >P R E S S S T A T E M E N T > >U.S. Applauds Agreement on Encryption in International Export >Control Regime > >Vienna, Austria -- The United States welcomed the decision taken >Thursday in Vienna by the 33 members of the Wassenaar Arrangement >to modernize and improve multilateral encryption export controls. >Ambassador David Aaron, the President's Special Envoy for Cryptology, >said that "the international agreement reached here goes a long way >toward leveling the playing field for exporters and promoting >electornic commerce. It provides countries with a stronger >regulatory framework to protect national security and public safety." > >The agreement caps a two year effort by the United States, to update >international encryption export controls and to balance commercial >and privacy interests with national security and public safety >concerns. Thursday's agreement simplifies and streamlines controls >on many encryption items and eliminates multilateral reporting >requirements. Specific improvements to multilateral encryption >controls include removing controls on all encryption products at >or below 56 bit and certain consumer entertainment TV systems, such >as DVD products, and on cordless telephone systems designed for >home or office use. > >Wassenaar members also agreed to extend controls to mass-market >encryption above 64 bits, thus closing a significant loophole in >multilateral encryption controls. This gives Wassenaar member >governments the legal authority to license many mass market >encryption software exports which were previously not covered by >multilateral controls and enables governments to review the >dissemination of the strongest encryption products that might >fall into the hands of rogue end users. The new controls also >extend liberalized mass-market hardware below 64 bits. Until >today, only mass-market software products enjoyed this >liberalized treatment. > >"The decisions taken here in Vienna reinforce the Administration's >efforts to promote a balanced encryption policy," Aaron confirmed. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Appendix B: Reuters News Release > > >Thursday, 3 December 1998 12:57:40 > >U.S. claims success in curbing encryption trade > >Aaron Pressman, Reuters, Washington newsroom, 202-898-8312 > >WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Clinton administration officials >Thursday said they had persuaded other leading countries to >impose strict new export controls on computer >data-scrambling products under the guise of arms control. > >At a meeting Thursday in Vienna, the 33 nations that have >signed the Wassenaar Arrangement limiting arms exports -- >including Japan, Germany and Britain -- agreed to impose >controls on the most powerful data-scrambling technologies, >including for the first time mass-market software, U.S. >special envoy for cryptography David Aaron told Reuters. > >The United States, which restricts exports of a wide range of >data-scrambling products and software -- also known as >encryption -- has long sought without success to persuade >other countries to impose similar restrictions. > >``We think this is very important in terms of bringing a level >playing field for our exporters,'' Aaron said. > >Leading U.S. high-technology companies, including Microsoft >Corp. and Intel Corp., have complained that the lack of >restrictions in other countries hampered their ability to >compete abroad. The industry has sought to have U.S. >restrictions relaxed or repealed, but has not asked for tighter >controls in other countries. > >Privacy advocates have also staunchly opposed U.S. export >controls on encryption, arguing that data-scrambling >technologies provided a crucial means of protecting privacy in >the digital age. > >``It's ironic, but the U.S. government is leading the charge >internationally to restrict personal privacy and individual >liberty around the world,'' said Alan Davidson, staff counsel at >the Center for Democracy and Technology, a Washington-based >advocacy group. > >Special envoy Aaron said the Wassenaar countries agreed to >continue export controls on powerful encryption products in >general but decided to end an exemption for widely available >software containing such capabilities. > >``They plugged a loophole,'' Aaron said. > >The new policy also reduced reporting and paperwork >requirements and specifically excluded from export controls >products that used encryption to protect intellectual property >-- such as movies or recordings sent over the Internet -- from >illegal copying, Aaron said. > >Encryption uses mathematical formulas to scramble >information and render it unreadable without a password or >software ``key.'' One important measure of the strength of the >encryption is the length of the software key, measured in bits, >the ones and zeros that make up the smallest unit of computer >data. > >With the increasing speed and falling prices of computers, >data encrypted with a key 40 bits long that was considered >highly secure several years ago can now be cracked in a few >hours. Cutting-edge electronic commerce and communications >programs typically use 128-bit or longer keys. > >Under Thursday's agreement, Wassenaar countries would >restrict exports of general encryption products using more >than 56-bit keys and mass-market products with keys more >than 64 bits long, Aaron said. > >Each country must now draft its own rules to implement the >agreement. > >-30- > >from The Laissez Faire City Times, Vol. 2, No. 41, Dec. 7, 1998 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >The Laissez Faire City Times is a private newspaper. 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