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RE: Another John Young Sighting
by Trei, Peter 24 Aug '04

24 Aug '04

Tyler Durden [mailto:camera_lumina@hotmail.com] > So...does Mr Young want to describe the FBI non/encounter? > (Perhaps he has > but I've been out of town and the hotmail account barfed up > most recent > posts.) > > What I don't yet fully grasp is why they bother. I suppose > there are the > following, but I suspect there's one key thing in their minds: > > 1) Scope out potential sources of arrestability. > 2) Intimidate into "straighten up and fly right" > 3) Pre-BB or not so-BB-work: Readily available weapons, > etc...in case of > raid? > 4) Just sniffing out the orietation/motivations...ie, raghead or > non-raghead? > > Of the above I consider 3) Unlikely, 2) Not superlikely, 1) > Fairly likely > and 4) Most probable. > > -TD While I agree on your assessment, don't forget 5) CYA. Since 9/11, the lower echelons of the security apparatus know that if Something Bad happens, and they are shown to have discounted any hint or suspicion concerning any person even very peripherally involved, their ass is grass and their career goes in the toilet. Peter

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Re: Another John Young Sighting
by Roy M. Silvernail 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 21:09, An Metet wrote: > >John's an "anarchist" now! LMAO! > > This is a perfect example of media bias and manufacture of enemies. > > Collecting public material at one place *is* anarchism today. > > You may laugh but 74% (or whatever is the % who believes Saddam personally > piloted all 9/11 planes) of americans will believe it. > > So Mr. Young is anarchist for all practical purposes and consequences. > And you are all his associates. Thanks for reminding me. I'd been putting off ordering my CD set. OTGH, I'm noticing a fair number of self-described anarchists who say they'll vote Bush, but only because it will hasten the inevitable final breakdown. -- Roy M. Silvernail is roy(a)rant-central.com, and you're not "Progress, like reality, is not optional." - R. A. Hettinga SpamAssassin->procmail->/dev/null->bliss http://www.rant-central.com

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Re: Another John Young Sighting
by An Metet 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

>John's an "anarchist" now! LMAO! This is a perfect example of media bias and manufacture of enemies. Collecting public material at one place *is* anarchism today. You may laugh but 74% (or whatever is the % who believes Saddam personally piloted all 9/11 planes) of americans will believe it. So Mr. Young is anarchist for all practical purposes and consequences. And you are all his associates.

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RE: Another John Young Sighting
by Tyler Durden 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

So...does Mr Young want to describe the FBI non/encounter? (Perhaps he has but I've been out of town and the hotmail account barfed up most recent posts.) What I don't yet fully grasp is why they bother. I suppose there are the following, but I suspect there's one key thing in their minds: 1) Scope out potential sources of arrestability. 2) Intimidate into "straighten up and fly right" 3) Pre-BB or not so-BB-work: Readily available weapons, etc...in case of raid? 4) Just sniffing out the orietation/motivations...ie, raghead or non-raghead? Of the above I consider 3) Unlikely, 2) Not superlikely, 1) Fairly likely and 4) Most probable. -TD >From: "Trei, Peter" <ptrei(a)rsasecurity.com> >To: "Trei, Peter" <ptrei(a)rsasecurity.com>, "John Young" <jya(a)pipeline.com>, > <cypherpunks(a)minder.net> >Subject: RE: Another John Young Sighting >Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:21:28 -0400 > >After some hiccups, I got a copy to Riad S. Wahby, >and he has posted it at >http://web.mit.edu/rsw/Public/JohnYoung040820.mpg > >Thanks, Riad! > >Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-cypherpunks(a)minder.net > > [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@minder.net]On Behalf Of Trei, Peter > > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:11 PM > > To: John Young; cypherpunks(a)minder.net > > Subject: RE: Another John Young Sighting > > > > > > I caught the rerun. I have John's appearence as an mpg; > > 13 Mb at VCD qual, ~65 at DVD qual. I think <2 minutes > > of a 30 minute show counts as fair use. > > > > If someone can take that much as a mail attachment, > > or has an acessible ftp site, I'd be happy to send it. > > I'd prefer someone who can post it for others. > > > > It's funny, but not deep. > > > > Peter > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx

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worm uses webcams to spy
by Major Variola (ret) 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

ok, from /., but highly amusing Meet the Peeping Tom worm A worm that has the capability to using webcams to spy on users is circulating across the Net. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/23/peeping_tom_worm/

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RE: Another John Young Sighting
by Trei, Peter 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

After some hiccups, I got a copy to Riad S. Wahby, and he has posted it at http://web.mit.edu/rsw/Public/JohnYoung040820.mpg Thanks, Riad! Peter > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-cypherpunks(a)minder.net > [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@minder.net]On Behalf Of Trei, Peter > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:11 PM > To: John Young; cypherpunks(a)minder.net > Subject: RE: Another John Young Sighting > > > I caught the rerun. I have John's appearence as an mpg; > 13 Mb at VCD qual, ~65 at DVD qual. I think <2 minutes > of a 30 minute show counts as fair use. > > If someone can take that much as a mail attachment, > or has an acessible ftp site, I'd be happy to send it. > I'd prefer someone who can post it for others. > > It's funny, but not deep. > > Peter

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RE: Another John Young Sighting
by Trei, Peter 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

I caught the rerun. I have John's appearence as an mpg; 13 Mb at VCD qual, ~65 at DVD qual. I think <2 minutes of a 30 minute show counts as fair use. If someone can take that much as a mail attachment, or has an acessible ftp site, I'd be happy to send it. I'd prefer someone who can post it for others. It's funny, but not deep. Peter

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T. Kennedy == Terrorist says TSA
by Sunder 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/08/20/MNGQ28BM1O1.… Washington -- Sen. Edward "Ted" Kennedy said Thursday that he was stopped and questioned at airports on the East Coast five times in March because his name appeared on the government's secret "no-fly" list. <SNIP> "That a clerical error could lend one of the most powerful people in Washington to the list -- it makes one wonder just how many others who are not terrorists are on the list," said Reggie Shuford, a senior ACLU counsel. "Someone of Sen. Kennedy's stature can simply call a friend to have his name removed, but a regular American citizen does not have that ability. He had to call three times himself." <SNIP> ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\ \|/ :They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country /\|/\ <--*-->:and our people, and neither do we." -G. W. Bush, 2004.08.05 \/|\/ /|\ : \|/ + v + : War is Peace, freedom is slavery, Bush is President. -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Another John Young Sighting
by Eric Cordian 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

Was that our John Young on the Daily Show, talking about being visited by FBI agents, with the title "Anarchist" under his name? -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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judges who get it
by Major Variola (ret) 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

Court rejects piracy claims against P2P file-sharing networks Friday, August 20, 2004 1:05:55 PM ET New Ratings NEW YORK, August 20 (New Ratings) A federal appeals court in the US has declared that the online file-sharing software companies are not liable to copyright infringement charges. http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_459109.html

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