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[ISN] Online payment firm in DDoS drama
by R.A. Hettinga 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

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Bush and a Butterfly
by R.A. Hettinga 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

<http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB109953476293464515,00.html> The Wall Street Journal November 4, 2004 COMMENTARY Bush and a Butterfly By MICHIO KAKU November 4, 2004; Page A14 Another squeaker -- almost. Once again, the presidential election seemed to teeter -- if only briefly -- on a razor's edge. But for scientists, even political events can raise scientific questions. Here, one is tempted to ask something that no one raised on Fox News or CNN: What is the smallest event necessary to tip the balance? Meteorologists sometimes talk about the butterfly effect, that even the flapping of a butterfly's wings might, at critical junctures, tip a storm cloud into unleashing a downpour. But quantum physicists ask a deeper question: Can even tiny quantum events tip a presidential election? If so, then perhaps the entire universe itself splits in half. In one universe, there is rejoicing in the White House. In another quantum universe, there is rejoicing in the streets of Paris and Berlin. Both would be possible universes. * * * According to the quantum theory, which rules the sub-atomic world, one can only calculate probabilities, not definite outcomes. According to the "many worlds" quantum theory, the universe splits in half each time a quantum event takes place, creating a cascading "multiverse" of possible universes. Even the smallest quantum event (like the impact of a cosmic ray) can have catastrophic consequences. What might have happened if a cosmic ray went through the womb of Hitler's mother. She might have suffered a miscarriage, and Hitler would never have been born. Imagine a world in which Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Gandhi, Churchill -- or even George W. Bush -- were never born due to a tiny quantum event. The mind is sent swimming by the possibilities. (We physicists like to tell the story of a Russian physicist who, witnessing the decadence of Las Vegas for the first time, put all his money on the first bet. When told what a foolish strategy that was, he replied, "Yes, but in one quantum universe, I shall be rich beyond imagination!") But since we cannot make contact with these parallel universes it might appear that this is just idle talk. Instead of debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, it seems as if physicists are asking how many universes can spin off from one quantum event. But there is one very important practical application: the future of computers and the wealth of nations. By 2020, Silicon Valley may become a Rust Belt. Moore's law will finally collapse, causing massive disruption in the world's economy. All things must pass, even the miniaturization of computer chips, the engine of the world's prosperity. Why? The Pentium chip today is so compact that it has a layer only about 20 atoms across. By 2020, this layer might become only five atoms across, in which case the Uncertainty Principle takes over, you don't know where the electrons are any more, and the chip short-circuits. Silicon chips are useless at the atomic level. Instead, physicists are frantically investigating "quantum computers," which compute on individual atoms. Spinning atoms are like tops, and their axis can be aligned up, down, or to any angle in between. Bits (like 0s and 1s) are replaced by "qubits" (quantum bits, which can be 0, 1, and anything in between). What makes quantum computers so powerful is that they compute not just in our universe, but in other quantum universes simultaneously. Even the CIA is interested in quantum computers, since they are so incredibly powerful they might be able to crack any known code. Quantum computers are still many decades away. But eventually, the nation which dominates the world economy may be the one which masters the nano world of atomic, and quantum computing. Then quantum events, instead of being the idle talk of quantum philosophers, will be the source of the world's wealth. The Silicon Age is coming to a close. Welcome to the Quantum Age, where even button-down bankers will have to learn the mysteries of the multiverse. Not to mention those who do the exit polls at American presidential elections! Mr. Kaku, the Henry Semat Professor of Theoretical Physics at the City University of New York, is the author of "Parallel Worlds," forthcoming in January from Doubleday. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: This Memorable Day
by Nomen Nescio 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 R.A. Hettinga: > Are you high, junior? Or is it just your politics that sound so... > sophomoric? > Communism, Fuck Yeah!!! States are People Too!!!! Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. (Euripides) You too. Sad it is. Howcome the Americans became so egocentrical and cynical that anyone who dares to speak up and support compassion for his fellow man automatically is a communist? It's a sincere question, no doubt in my mind that we won't get a sincere answer though. Reading your email actually reminds me of those of Tim May, he also seemed to be full of bigotry and hatred and deeply disliked anyone who were unfortunate enough to be poor. > Our culture -- yours, too, bunky, since I bet you don't shit into a > hole in the floor and pray 5 times a day for, as Hanson > appropriately No I don't shit into a hole, but I can still try to be unbiased and extend a though or two to other people who are not so fortunate as we are to be born in the rich part of the world. > Ah. That's right. I'm not "nuanced" enough. It's too *complicated* > for anyone who didn't take your sophomore (cryptomarxist) "History > Studies" class, or whatever. Please. To me it's enough to at least try to understand and try live by the spirit of the Bible. It's also quite ironical that all those right wing voters actually read communist propaganda in church, since that is the logical conclusion of your arguments made here. > There we go. Wisdom from a thug. How about this thug, instead, kid, > quoted just about as much out of context as you have yours: > > "When the hares made speeches in the assembly and demanded that all > should have equality, the lions replied, "Where are your claws and > teeth?" -- attributed to Antisthenes in Aristotle, 'Politics', > 3.7.2 > > Oh. That's right. One shouldn't read Aristotle. He was a White Male > Oppressor... You like quotes, ok here I have a small collection for you, maybe one or two of them qualifies as white oppressors too, I don't know. Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. (Nietzsche) An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens. (Thomas Jefferson) I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crises. The great point is to bring them the real facts. (Abraham Lincoln) It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. (Voltaire) What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? (Mahatma Gandhi) Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. (Martin Luther King) > Sheesh. When will September ever end? In my calendar it's November already, I don't know about yours. Johnny Doelittle -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Tom Ridge Special v1.01 iQA/AwUBQYoOvDVaKWz2Ji/mEQLUvgCfZJiR4Nmtvpe00RHmsfJujf1opfYAn289 PIgwc3xyE+/RolLAFBqAc6Ks =cwYX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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the new Keyser Sose (was Re: "Do androids dream of electric camels?")
by R.A. Hettinga 03 Nov '04

03 Nov '04

At 8:34 PM +0000 11/3/04, POPBITCH wrote: > >> Hardline Honeyz 2 << > Al Zarqawi: the unusual suspect > > Mysterious Jordanian celebrity executioner Abu > Musab Al Zarqawi is a huge hit with lovers of > Hardline Honeyz. With a $25m price tag on his > head, al Zarqawi shot to fame as the star of > "Sheik Abu Musab Al Zarqawi slaughters an > American infidel with his own hands", a video > showing the death of Iraq hostage Nicholas Berg. > But is Al Zarqawi for real? > > A Jordanian of that name did fight in Afganistan > in the 80s and in Kurdish Iraq in the 90s, > with a group called Ansar al-Islam, but no more > was heard of him until Colin Powell's famous > warmongering speech to the UN named him as the > link between Saddam and Osama. Since then Al > Zarqawi has become a mythic bogeyman blamed for > almost every real or imagined terrorist threat. > > *Suddenly he was al-Qaeda's bioterrorism expert > and head of terror camps in Saddam-era Iraq; he'd > never previously been linked to either. > * US intelligence experts say Berg's executioner > clearly didn't have a Jordanian accent. > * Iraqi insurgents claimed Al Zarqawi was dead, > and all new captured operatives from Ansar > al-Islam say they've never laid eyes on him. > * CIA said he only had one leg after an operation > in Baghdad, but since the executioner in the > video clearly had two they now say, er, he has > two after all. > > So... Al Zarqawi: he's the new Keyser Sose. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Your source code, for sale
by R.A. Hettinga 03 Nov '04

03 Nov '04

<http://www.adtmag.com/print.asp?id=10225> - ADTmag.com Your source code, for sale By Mike Gunderloy Well, maybe not yet. But what does the future hold for those who consider their source code an important proprietary asset? Halloween this year featured more scary stuff than just ghosts and ghouls. It was also the day (at least in the Pacific time zone) when the Source Code Club posted their second Newsletter in a public Usenet group. Despite their innocent-sounding name, the Source Code Club is a group of hackers who are offering to sell the source to commercial products. Their current menu of source code for sale looks like this: * Cisco Pix 6.3.1 - $24,000 * Enterasys Dragon IDS - $19.200 * Napster - $12,000 They also claim to have the source code for many other packages that they haven't announced publicly. "If you are requesting something from a Fortune 100 company, there is a good chance that we might already have it, they say. Now, you might think this business is blatantly illegal, and no doubt it is. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's impossible. They're posting their newsletter to Usenet, probably from an Internet cafe somewhere, so that's not traceable. They'll take orders the same way, and require orders to be encrypted using their PGP key, which is at least reasonably unbreakable at the moment. (As of this writing, I don't see any encrypted messages posted to the newsgroup they use, though). For payment, they're using e-gold, which claims to protect the anonymity of its account holders. Now, it seems reasonably likely that the Source Code Club folks will eventually get caught; going up against Cisco's resources displays at least a strong conviction of invulnerability. But even if these guys get caught, there are deeper issues here. Ten years ago, no one could have dreamed of trying to set up such a business. Ten years from now, advances in cryptography, more forms of currency circulating on the Internet, and improvements in anonymity software are likely to make it impossible to catch a similar operation. What will it mean when hacker groups can in fact do business this way with impunity? First, it's important to note that the ability to sell wares anonymously won't necessarily imply the ability to get inventory. Your best defense against having your own source code leaked is to pay careful attention to its physical security. These days, if I were developing an important commercial product, I'd make sure there was no path between my development or build machines and the public Internet. Hackers can do lots of things, but they still can't leap over physical disconnections. Second, I'd use software that prevents temporary storage devices (like USB sticks) from connecting to the network, and keep CD and DVD burners out of the development boxes as well. It's also worth making sure that your business doesn't depend entirely on source code. While the intellectual property that goes into making software is certainly a valuable asset, it shouldn't be your only asset. Think about ancillary services like training, support, and customization in addition to simply selling software. Finally, note that the Source Code Club business model is based on taking advantage of people wanting to know what's in the software that they purchase. About the pix code, they say "Many intelligence agencies/government organizations will want to know if those 1's and 0's in the pix image really are doing what was advertised. You must ask yourself how well you trust the pix images you download to your appliance from cisco.com." Microsoft (among other companies) has demonstrated how to remove this particular fear factor from customers: share your source code under controlled circumstances. That doesn't mean that you need to adapt an open source model, but when a big customer comes calling, why not walk their engineers through how things work and let them audit their own areas of concern? Given the shifting landscape of intellectual property, and the threat from groups such as the Source Code Club, these are matters you need to think about sooner rather than later. Otherwise you may wake up some morning and find that your major asset has vanished without your even knowing it was in danger. Mike Gunderloy, MCSE, MCSD .NET, MCDBA is an independent software consultant and author working in eastern Washington. He's the editor of ADT's Developer Central newsletter and author of numerous books and articles. You can reach him at MikeG1(a)larkfarm.com. This article originally appeared in the November 2004 issue of Application Development Trends. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Why you keep losing to this idiot
by R.A. Hettinga 03 Nov '04

03 Nov '04

This comes from an old joke. A grand master, in the middle of a chess match, jumps up onto the table, kicks off all the pieces, and screams, almost unintelligibly, "Why must I *lose*, to such *idiots*!!!". :-). Cheers, RAH ------- <http://slate.msn.com/toolbar.aspx?action=print&id=2109079> Simple but Effective Why you keep losing to this idiot. By William Saletan Updated Wednesday, Nov. 3, 2004, at 12:05 AM PT 12:01 a.m. PT: Sigh. I really didn't want to have to write this. George W. Bush is going to win re-election. Yeah, the lawyers will haggle about Ohio. But this time, Democrats don't have the popular vote on their side. Bush does. If you're a Bush supporter, this is no surprise. You love him, so why shouldn't everybody else? But if you're dissatisfied with Bush-or if, like me, you think he's been the worst president in memory-you have a lot of explaining to do. Why don't a majority of voters agree with us? How has Bush pulled it off? I think this is the answer: Simplicity, simplicity, simplicity. Bush is a very simple man. You may think that makes him a bad president, as I do, but lots of people don't-and there are more of them than there are of us. If you don't believe me, take a look at those numbers on your TV screen. Think about the simplicity of everything Bush says and does. He gives the same speech every time. His sentences are short and clear. "Government must do a few things and do them well," he says. True to his word, he has spent his political capital on a few big ideas: tax cuts, terrorism, Iraq. Even his electoral strategy tonight was powerfully simple: Win Florida, win Ohio, and nothing else matters. All those lesser states-Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, New Hampshire-don't matter if Bush reels in the big ones. This is what so many people like about Bush's approach to terrorism. They forgive his marginal and not-so-marginal screw-ups, because they can see that fundamentally, he "gets it." They forgive his mismanagement of Iraq, because they see that his heart and will are in the right place. And while they may be unhappy about their economic circumstances, they don't hold that against him. What you and I see as unreflectiveness, they see as transparency. They trust him. Now look at your candidate, John Kerry. What quality has he most lacked? Not courage-he proved that in Vietnam. Not will-he proved that in Iowa. Not brains-he proved that in the debates. What Kerry lacked was simplicity. Bush had one message; Kerry had dozens. Bush had one issue; Kerry had scores. Bush ended his sentences when you expected him to say more; Kerry went on and on, adding one prepositional phrase after another, until nobody could remember what he was talking about. Now Bush has two big states that mean everything, and Kerry has a bunch of little ones that add up to nothing. If you're a Democrat, here's my advice. Do what the Republicans did in 1998. Get simple. Find a compelling salesman and get him ready to run for president in 2008. Put aside your quibbles about preparation, stature, expertise, nuance, and all that other hyper-sophisticated garbage that caused you to nominate Kerry. You already have legions of people with preparation, stature, expertise, and nuance ready to staff the executive branch of the federal government. You don't need one of them to be president. You just need somebody to win the White House and appoint them to his administration. And that will require all the simplicity, salesmanship, and easygoing humanity they don't have. The good news is, that person is already available. His name is John Edwards. If you have any doubt about his electability, just read the exit polls from the 2004 Democratic primaries. If you don't think he's ready to be president-if you don't think he has the right credentials, the right gravitas, the right subtlety of thought-ask yourself whether these are the same things you find wanting in George W. Bush. Because evidently a majority of the voting population of the United States doesn't share your concern. They seem to be attracted to a candidate with a simple message, a clear focus, and a human touch. You might want to consider their views, since they're the ones who will decide whether you're sitting here again four years from now, wondering what went wrong. In 1998 and 1999, Republicans cleared the field for George W. Bush. Members of Congress and other major officeholders threw their weight behind him to make sure he got the nomination. They united because their previous presidential nominee, a clumsy veteran senator, had gone down to defeat. They were facing eight years out of power, and they were hungry. Do what they did. Give Edwards a job that will position him to run for president again in a couple of years. Clear the field of Hillary Clinton and any other well-meaning liberal who can't connect with people outside those islands of blue on your electoral map. Because you're going to get a simple president again next time, whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that president will be from your party or the other one. 9:33 p.m. PT: That proviso about the exit polls matching the returns is looking quite a bit more important now than it did three hours ago. Bush has Florida and Colorado in the bag. All scenarios for a Kerry victory now require Ohio. Kerry led 51-49 in the Ohio exit poll this afternoon. But he also led 51-49 in the Florida exit poll, and we've seen what happened there. Nationwide, the exit polls had Kerry up 51-48. But with 80 million votes counted already, it's Bush who has a 51-48 lead. So at this point, the exit polls are at best meaningless. Or worse, if you're a Democrat, the six-point gap between what the exit polls predicted for Kerry nationally and what the returns show so far means that in Ohio, a two-point lead for Kerry in the exit poll foreshadows a Bush win by as many as four points. In New Mexico, two-thirds of the precincts have reported, and it doesn't look good for Kerry: He's down 51-48. So even if he takes Iowa, where he's now leading with two-thirds of the vote tallied, he'll have to win either Nevada, which has just begun counting, or Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, he's hanging on to a 14,000-vote lead-that's a single percentage point-with half the precincts reporting. If Kerry holds that lead in Wisconsin and closes what is now a 120,000-vote Bush lead in Ohio, he's the next president. Or if he holds his lead in Iowa and picks off Nevada, he can get the same result-but not without Ohio. Three-quarters of the precincts in Ohio have now reported, and Kerry still trails by 126,000 votes, about 3 percent of the total. I don't think he can pull it off. But I've been wrong so many times now that I'd be happy-no, really, in this case I would be positively delighted-to be proved wrong again. 7:38 p.m. PT: I should have mentioned before that if Bush wins both Ohio and Florida, he needs only Colorado to get to 269. So that's just two states where he needs the exit polls to be off. But in both cases the error has to be at least two points, in each case it has to be in his direction, and the Colorado exit poll can't be off in the other direction. Let's simplify the calculations. Bush starts with a floor of 213. He leads by one point in the exit poll in Colorado, so let's assume he takes that state, putting him at 222. Here are the remaining states in which Bush trails in the exit polls by fewer than 6 points: Nevada (Bush down 1), Iowa (Bush down 1), Florida (Bush down 2), Ohio (Bush down 2), New Mexico (Bush down 2), and Wisconsin (Bush down 3). That's it. Those are all the states Bush has to work with. If he wins them all, he gets to 296. So Kerry can lock up the election by taking any 28 electoral votes from that group. Here are the combinations that will do the job for Kerry: 1) Florida and any other state. 2) Ohio and Wisconsin. 3) Ohio and any two of the little three: Nevada, New Mexico, and Iowa. Two other variables could be in play. If Kerry takes Colorado, he can wrap up the election by taking a combination of Wisconsin and two of the little three. He won't have to win Ohio or Florida. But if Bush stages an upset in Hawaii, Kerry will have to take one of the little three in addition to Ohio and Wisconsin-or he'll have to take Ohio, Iowa, and either Nevada or New Mexico. Those are the scenarios for now. I'll revisit them as the returns come in and the options narrow. 6:08 p.m. PT: We can't be sure how far tonight's returns will ultimately vary from the late-afternoon exit-poll numbers (see this "Press Box"). But with that understood, let's talk about what the numbers mean, if true, for the electoral map. Bush gets to 189 electoral votes with no problem. Assuming he takes Virginia, he's at 202. With Missouri, where he's 5 points up in the exit polls, he's at 213. Now he needs Colorado. I never took this state seriously as a problem for him, but the afternoon numbers suggest it might be: He's up just a point there. Let's assume he takes it. Now he's at 222. At this point, he has run out of states where he's leading in the exit polls, and he's still looking for a combination of 47 electoral votes to get him to 269. (He wins in the House if it's a tie.) The next best shots are Nevada and Iowa, where he's down a point. Let's say he takes them, too. Now he's at 234, still 35 electoral votes away-and he has run out of states where he's trailing by a single point. He'll have to start winning in places where he's trailing by two. How about New Mexico? Let's give him that. Now he's at 239, but that's still not enough to win the election even if Florida comes around. He'll have to capture the other state where he's down two in the exit polls: Ohio. It seems a bit unfair, making him win a state with 20 electoral votes just to get the three he needs for a tie. Wouldn't it be easier to package Florida or Ohio with Wisconsin? Either combination gets him to 269 or beyond, so let's try that. Colorado plus Nevada plus Iowa plus New Mexico plus Wisconsin plus either Ohio or Florida. For those of you doing the math at home, that's a Bush sweep of five states where the exit polls have him trailing, without losing a single state in which he leads. In three of those states, Bush's winning scenario requires the exit polls to be at least two points off. In Wisconsin, it requires the exit polls to be at least three points off. And it gets uglier from there. Because if even one of these breaks doesn't go Bush's way, there is no remaining state on the board in which he trails by less than six in the exit polls. Bush can win this thing, but he'll need a lot of luck. More than he'll get, if you ask me. William Saletan is Slate's chief political correspondent and author of Bearing Right: How Conservatives Won the Abortion War. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: This Memorable Day
by Tyler Durden 03 Nov '04

03 Nov '04

Well, this may actually be less hard than we thought. Indeed, it's the one vaguely silver lining in this toxic cloud. Outsourcing to India will actually add a lot to world stability. Of course, we'll loose a lot of jobs in the process, but in the long run we'll eventually have another strong trading partner like Japan or France or the Dutch. Bush will sell us out to big business and all of the less-well-off will suffer like crazy in the process, but it will actually make things better in the long run. The only thing we need to worry about is not melting the ice caps in the process. -TD >From: John Kelsey <kelsey.j(a)ix.netcom.com> >To: Nomen Nescio <nobody(a)dizum.com>, cypherpunks(a)al-qaeda.net >Subject: Re: This Memorable Day >Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:13:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > > >From: Nomen Nescio <nobody(a)dizum.com> > >Sent: Nov 3, 2004 6:50 AM > >To: cypherpunks(a)al-qaeda.net > >Subject: Re: This Memorable Day > >... > > The only way to move towards a more friendly world is to make > >people feel they are able to share the wealth and prosperity of the > >world. As long as there is one single person anywhere in the world > >hungering to death there is still a basis for fundamentalism and all > >the problem that leads to. > >Ahh. So all we have to do to end terrorism is to end poverty, injustice, >and inequality all over the world. *Phew*. I thought it was going to take >something hard. > >--John _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx

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DIMACS Workshop on Markets as Predictive Devices (Information Markets)
by R.A. Hettinga 03 Nov '04

03 Nov '04

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U.S. stocks surge as Bush heads for victory
by R.A. Hettinga 03 Nov '04

03 Nov '04

--- begin forwarded text <snip...> Midday Report http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?column=Newswatch&dist=nwtam&sitei… <snip...> Current levels on US market indices at 11:40 am ET Nov 3, 2004 Last Change DJIA 10,182.39 +146.66 S&P 500 1,146.41 +15.85 NASDAQ 2,013.30 +28.51 10-Year U.S. T-Bond 4.13% +0.053 <snip...> --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: This Memorable Day
by John Kelsey 03 Nov '04

03 Nov '04

>From: Nomen Nescio <nobody(a)dizum.com> >Sent: Nov 3, 2004 6:50 AM >To: cypherpunks(a)al-qaeda.net >Subject: Re: This Memorable Day ... > The only way to move towards a more friendly world is to make >people feel they are able to share the wealth and prosperity of the >world. As long as there is one single person anywhere in the world >hungering to death there is still a basis for fundamentalism and all >the problem that leads to. Ahh. So all we have to do to end terrorism is to end poverty, injustice, and inequality all over the world. *Phew*. I thought it was going to take something hard. --John

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