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30 Oct '05

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by Eugen Leitl 30 Oct '05

30 Oct '05

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Re: Return of the death of cypherpunks.
by John Kelsey 29 Oct '05

29 Oct '05

>From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd(a)echeque.com> >Sent: Oct 28, 2005 12:09 PM >To: cypherpunks(a)jfet.org >Subject: Return of the death of cypherpunks. >From: Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org> ... >> The list needs not to stay dead, with some finite >> effort on our part (all of us) we can well resurrect >> it. If there's a real content there's even no need >> from all those forwards, to just fake a heartbeat. >Since cryptography these days is routine and uncontroversial, there >is no longer any strong reason for the cypherpunks list to continue >to exist. Well, political controversy seems like the least interesting thing about the list--to the extent we're all babbling about who needs killing and who's not a sufficiently pure libertarian/anarchocapitalist and which companies are selling out to the Man, the list is nothing special. The cool thing is the understanding of crypto and computer security techology as applied to these concerns that are political. And the coolest thing is getting smart people who do real crypto/security work, and write working code, to solve problems. The ratio of political wanking to technical posts and of talkers to thinkers to coders needs to be right for the list to be interesting. ... > --digsig > James A. Donald > 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG > AnKV4N6f9DgtOy+KkQ9QsiXcpQm+moX4U09FjLXP > 4zfMeSzzCXNSr737bvqJ6ccbvDSu8fr66LbLEHedb --John Kelsey

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Any comments on BlueGem's LocalSSL?
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

http://www.bluegemsecurity.com/ claims that they can encrypt data from the keyboard to the web browser, bypassing trojans and sniffers, however the web pages are completely lacking in any detail on what they're actually doing. >From reports published by West Coast Labs, it's a purely software-only solution that consists of some sort of (Win9x/Win2K/XP only) low-level keyboard driver interface that bypasses the standard Windows user-level interface and sends keystrokes directly to the application, in the same way that a number of OTFE packages directly access the keyboard driver to try and evade sniffers. The West Coast Labs tests report that they successfully evade all known sniffers, which doesn't actually mean much since all it proves is that LocalSSL is sufficiently 0-day that none of the sniffers target it yet. The use of SSL to get the keystrokes from the driver to the target app seems somewhat silly, if sniffers don't know about LocalSSL then there's no need to encrypt the data, and once they do know about it then the encryption won't help, they'll just dive in before the encryption happens. Anyone else have any additional information/comments about this? Peter.

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28 Oct '05

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Re: [PracticalSecurity] Anonymity - great technology but hardly used
by John Kelsey 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

>From: Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org> >Sent: Oct 27, 2005 3:22 AM >To: "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn(a)speakeasy.net>, cypherpunks(a)jfet.org >Subject: Re: [PracticalSecurity] Anonymity - great technology but hardly used ... >It's never about merit, and not even money, but about predeployed >base and interoperability. In today's world, you minimize the >surprise on the opposite party's end if you stick with >Redmondware. (Businessfolk hate surprises, especially complicated, >technical, boring surprises). Not only that, but this is often sensible. Have you noticed the bizarre misfit between our allegedly phonetic alphabet and how things are spelled? Why don't we get everyone to change that? Or the silly insistence of sticking with a base 60 time standard? Or the whole atrocity of English measurements that the US still is stuck with? Oh yeah, because there's an enormous installed base, and people are able to do their jobs with them, bad though these tools are. ... >OpenOffice & Co usually supports a subset of Word and Excel formats. >If you want to randomly annoy your coworkers, use OpenOffice to >process the documents in MS Office formats before passing them on, >without telling what you're doing. Much hilarity will ensue. I'll note that you can do the same thing by simply using slightly different versions of Word. MS takes a bad rap for a lot of their software (Excel and Powerpoint are pretty nice, for example), but Word is a disaster. >Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> --John Kelsey

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28 Oct '05

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[matthew@matthew.at: RE: [p2p-hackers] P2P Authentication]
by Eugen Leitl 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

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Re: [PracticalSecurity] Anonymity - great technology but hardly used
by cyphrpunk 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

> The cypherpunks list is about anything we want it to be. At this stage in > the lifecycle (post-nuclear-armageddon-weeds-in-the-rubble), it's more > about the crazy bastards who are still here than it is about just about > anything else. Fine, I want it to be about crypto and anonymity. You can bash Microsoft anywhere on the net. Where else are you going to talk about this shit? CP

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