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Re: Public Key Infrastructure: An Artifact...
by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 04:47 PM 11/22/00 -0800, Bram Cohen wrote: >On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 Lynn.Wheeler(a)firstdata.com wrote: >>the other scenerio that some certification agencies have >>expressed (i.e. licensing bureaus, bbb, consumer report, etc >>operations) is that in the online world ... that they would >>provide an online service .... rather than certificates >>designed for an offline world. >Yes, it seems fairly well established that revocations just >plain don't work. >Once again, the solution to the problems of offline >operation appears to be online operation. And the annoying thing about this is that once we go to needing an online trusted third party to allow us to have secure communications, we may as well chuck the public key stuff and just use symmetric ciphers and the key exchange protocols worked out ten or fifteen years ago. Which makes me suspect that we're just not using public key mechanisms very intelligently yet. We've realized that screws are better for many jobs than nails, it's just that they're so damned hard to hammer in.... >-Bram Cohen --John Kelsey PGP: 5D91 6F57 2646 83F9 6D7F 9C87 886D 88AF ``Slavery's most important legacy may be a painful insight into human nature and into the terrible consequences of unbridled power.'' --Thomas Sowell, _Race and Culture_ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.1 Int. for non-commercial use <http://www.pgpinternational.com> Comment: foo iQCVAwUBOh7WlyZv+/Ry/LrBAQE+eAP9E8RxIl9TAVbWT8CJKGl0V3IN9wMCWs82 wzh3XaSs/YYdGcG/+rEPN+S6y9t8HsSz9vr3dgPwOMDsVvkmBkOQJT+YK86thUiS a4eL2Ea9T2lAj5+gb6jeUhBpqn130C0WxUab5ARZffSOMkZCa7I9V6CfKIwL9Noq fMzDtrkqNXw= =yGFp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ZS] Fwd: Announcement: Diaspora* Will Now Be A Community Project
by Bryce Lynch 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dirk Bruere <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: > We are still nowhere near getting a crucial piece of ZS infrastructure > - the geographically based skills/business exchange we could integrate > with LETS. The fact that there is no off the shelf s/w or social site > that does this either means there is no market for it, or there is a > huge opportunity. Or maybe I have simply never heard of it. Thinking back to an article Douglas Rushkoff wrote a while back, let's see what's out there... Established gratis orgs that already do this: http://www.ces.org.za/index.asp#_blank https://hourworld.org/ Open Source Currency: https://github.com/oscurrency/oscurrency Based on Rails, F/OSS timebanking software. Community Forge: http://communityforge.net/ Based on Drupal, implements LETS. Ripple: https://ripplepay.com/ Track obligations through a socnet. This will also be of interest: http://ma.juii.net/blog/time-banking-software-recommendation -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703] [ZS] https://drwho.virtadpt.net/ "I am everywhere." -- -- Zero State mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/DoctrineZero ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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[SALT] Cory Doctorow next TUESDAY July 31 (for forwarding)
by Stewart Brand 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Attacks on computer freedom will just keep escalating, Doctorow contends. The copyright wars, net neutrality, and SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) were early samples of what is to come. Victories for freedom in those battles were temporary. Conflict in the decades ahead will feature ever higher stakes, more convoluted issues, and far more powerful technology. The debate is about how civilization decides to conduct itself---and in whose interests. b Cory Doctorow is one of the great context-setters of our generation,b says Tim ObReilly. Co-editor of the acclaimed blog b Boing Boing,b Doctorow writes contemporary science fiction blending contextual insight with journalistic depth. His recent books include For the Win; Makers; and Little Brother. "The Coming Century of War Against Your Computer," Cory Doctorow, Novellus Theater, Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, San Francisco, 7pm, Tuesday, July 31. The show starts promptly at 7:30pm. To be sure of a seat: b" Long Now Members can use the discount code on the Doctorow Seminar page to reserve 1 free seat. b" You can purchase tickets for $10 each. b" Tune into the live audio stream for Long Now Members at 7:30 PST - become a member for just $8 a month. Share this talk: Cory Doctorow, "The Coming Century of War Against Your Computer" Long Now talk on 7/31 http://goo.gl/nRmUi Talks coming up: Aug. 20 (Mon) - Elaine Pagels, "The Truth About the Book of Revelations" Sept. 5 (Tue) - Tim O'Reilly, "Birth of the Global Mind" Oct. 8 (Mon) - Steven Pinker, "The Decline of Violence" Nov. 13 (Tue) - Lazar Kunstmann, Jon Lackman, "Preservation without Permission: the Paris Urban eXperiment" High-quality videos of the talks and other benefits (such as priority tickets) are available to Long now members. Membership, which starts at $8/month ($96/year), helps support the series and other Long Now projects. Joinable here. This is one of a monthly series of Seminars About Long-term Thinking (SALT) organized by The Long Now Foundation. Free audio and my summaries of all previous talks are available for download here (or stay up to date with the podcast here). You'll find a range of long-term thinking items on our Blog (RSS). If you would like to be notified by email (like this one) of forthcoming talks, go here to sign up online. Any questions, contact Danielle Engelman at Long Now -- 415-561-6582 x1 or danielle(a)longnow.org. You are welcome to forward this notice to anyone you think might be interested. --Stewart Brand -- Stewart Brand -- sb(a)gbn.org The Long Now Foundation -- http://longnow.org/ Seminars & downloads -- http://longnow.org/seminars/ b"Twitter - up to the minute info on tickets and events b"Long Now Blog - daily updates on events and ideas b"Facebook - stay in touch through our fan page _______________________________________________ SALT mailing list unsubscribe / change email: http://list.longnow.org/mailman/listinfo/salt ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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by anonymous＠openpgp.net 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> Oct 19, 2000 - 06:55 AM > > California Court Declines to Review > Vehicle Forfeiture Law > The Associated Press > > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The state Supreme Court has > declined to review a ruling allowing police to seize vehicles > suspected of use in crimes such as drug dealing or soliciting > a prostitute. > > Without comment, a majority of justices Wednesday decided > not to hear the American Civil Liberties Unions challenge to > Oaklands 1997 vehicle seizure law. Naturally, a chemical solution (pun not directly intended...but I'll take it anyway) becomes apparent. If the ultimate motivation of the car siezures is to sell them and keep the money, what would happen if somebody acquired a few ounces or gallons of PCB's (poly-chlorinated biphenyls; common in 20+year-old (non-electrolytic) capacitors), and sprayed them (only a very tiny amount per car should be necessary, maybe 1 milliliter or so?) into those siezed cars though a broken window (or injected through door seals). Naturally, it would be important to anonymously call the local newspaper or TV stations and report on what had occurred, possibly the EPA as well. That car would suddenly change from a $10,000 asset into possibly a $100,000 liability for the agency which siezed them.. Just a thought Jim Bell Better Living Through Chemistry

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by anonymous＠openpgp.net 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> Oct 19, 2000 - 06:55 AM > > California Court Declines to Review > Vehicle Forfeiture Law > The Associated Press > > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The state Supreme Court has > declined to review a ruling allowing police to seize vehicles > suspected of use in crimes such as drug dealing or soliciting > a prostitute. > > Without comment, a majority of justices Wednesday decided > not to hear the American Civil Liberties Unions challenge to > Oaklands 1997 vehicle seizure law. Naturally, a chemical solution (pun not directly intended...but I'll take it anyway) becomes apparent. If the ultimate motivation of the car siezures is to sell them and keep the money, what would happen if somebody acquired a few ounces or gallons of PCB's (poly-chlorinated biphenyls; common in 20+year-old (non-electrolytic) capacitors), and sprayed them (only a very tiny amount per car should be necessary, maybe 1 milliliter or so?) into those siezed cars though a broken window (or injected through door seals). Naturally, it would be important to anonymously call the local newspaper or TV stations and report on what had occurred, possibly the EPA as well. That car would suddenly change from a $10,000 asset into possibly a $100,000 liability for the agency which siezed them.. Just a thought Jim Bell Better Living Through Chemistry

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by anonymous＠openpgp.net 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> Oct 19, 2000 - 06:55 AM > > California Court Declines to Review > Vehicle Forfeiture Law > The Associated Press > > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The state Supreme Court has > declined to review a ruling allowing police to seize vehicles > suspected of use in crimes such as drug dealing or soliciting > a prostitute. > > Without comment, a majority of justices Wednesday decided > not to hear the American Civil Liberties Unions challenge to > Oaklands 1997 vehicle seizure law. Naturally, a chemical solution (pun not directly intended...but I'll take it anyway) becomes apparent. If the ultimate motivation of the car siezures is to sell them and keep the money, what would happen if somebody acquired a few ounces or gallons of PCB's (poly-chlorinated biphenyls; common in 20+year-old (non-electrolytic) capacitors), and sprayed them (only a very tiny amount per car should be necessary, maybe 1 milliliter or so?) into those siezed cars though a broken window (or injected through door seals). Naturally, it would be important to anonymously call the local newspaper or TV stations and report on what had occurred, possibly the EPA as well. That car would suddenly change from a $10,000 asset into possibly a $100,000 liability for the agency which siezed them.. Just a thought Jim Bell Better Living Through Chemistry

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by anonymous＠openpgp.net 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> Oct 19, 2000 - 06:55 AM > > California Court Declines to Review > Vehicle Forfeiture Law > The Associated Press > > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The state Supreme Court has > declined to review a ruling allowing police to seize vehicles > suspected of use in crimes such as drug dealing or soliciting > a prostitute. > > Without comment, a majority of justices Wednesday decided > not to hear the American Civil Liberties Unions challenge to > Oaklands 1997 vehicle seizure law. Naturally, a chemical solution (pun not directly intended...but I'll take it anyway) becomes apparent. If the ultimate motivation of the car siezures is to sell them and keep the money, what would happen if somebody acquired a few ounces or gallons of PCB's (poly-chlorinated biphenyls; common in 20+year-old (non-electrolytic) capacitors), and sprayed them (only a very tiny amount per car should be necessary, maybe 1 milliliter or so?) into those siezed cars though a broken window (or injected through door seals). Naturally, it would be important to anonymously call the local newspaper or TV stations and report on what had occurred, possibly the EPA as well. That car would suddenly change from a $10,000 asset into possibly a $100,000 liability for the agency which siezed them.. Just a thought Jim Bell Better Living Through Chemistry

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by anonymous＠openpgp.net 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> Oct 19, 2000 - 06:55 AM > > California Court Declines to Review > Vehicle Forfeiture Law > The Associated Press > > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The state Supreme Court has > declined to review a ruling allowing police to seize vehicles > suspected of use in crimes such as drug dealing or soliciting > a prostitute. > > Without comment, a majority of justices Wednesday decided > not to hear the American Civil Liberties Unions challenge to > Oaklands 1997 vehicle seizure law. Naturally, a chemical solution (pun not directly intended...but I'll take it anyway) becomes apparent. If the ultimate motivation of the car siezures is to sell them and keep the money, what would happen if somebody acquired a few ounces or gallons of PCB's (poly-chlorinated biphenyls; common in 20+year-old (non-electrolytic) capacitors), and sprayed them (only a very tiny amount per car should be necessary, maybe 1 milliliter or so?) into those siezed cars though a broken window (or injected through door seals). Naturally, it would be important to anonymously call the local newspaper or TV stations and report on what had occurred, possibly the EPA as well. That car would suddenly change from a $10,000 asset into possibly a $100,000 liability for the agency which siezed them.. Just a thought Jim Bell Better Living Through Chemistry

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by anonymous＠openpgp.net 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> Oct 19, 2000 - 06:55 AM > > California Court Declines to Review > Vehicle Forfeiture Law > The Associated Press > > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The state Supreme Court has > declined to review a ruling allowing police to seize vehicles > suspected of use in crimes such as drug dealing or soliciting > a prostitute. > > Without comment, a majority of justices Wednesday decided > not to hear the American Civil Liberties Unions challenge to > Oaklands 1997 vehicle seizure law. Naturally, a chemical solution (pun not directly intended...but I'll take it anyway) becomes apparent. If the ultimate motivation of the car siezures is to sell them and keep the money, what would happen if somebody acquired a few ounces or gallons of PCB's (poly-chlorinated biphenyls; common in 20+year-old (non-electrolytic) capacitors), and sprayed them (only a very tiny amount per car should be necessary, maybe 1 milliliter or so?) into those siezed cars though a broken window (or injected through door seals). Naturally, it would be important to anonymously call the local newspaper or TV stations and report on what had occurred, possibly the EPA as well. That car would suddenly change from a $10,000 asset into possibly a $100,000 liability for the agency which siezed them.. Just a thought Jim Bell Better Living Through Chemistry

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by anonymous＠openpgp.net 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> Oct 19, 2000 - 06:55 AM > > California Court Declines to Review > Vehicle Forfeiture Law > The Associated Press > > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The state Supreme Court has > declined to review a ruling allowing police to seize vehicles > suspected of use in crimes such as drug dealing or soliciting > a prostitute. > > Without comment, a majority of justices Wednesday decided > not to hear the American Civil Liberties Unions challenge to > Oaklands 1997 vehicle seizure law. Naturally, a chemical solution (pun not directly intended...but I'll take it anyway) becomes apparent. If the ultimate motivation of the car siezures is to sell them and keep the money, what would happen if somebody acquired a few ounces or gallons of PCB's (poly-chlorinated biphenyls; common in 20+year-old (non-electrolytic) capacitors), and sprayed them (only a very tiny amount per car should be necessary, maybe 1 milliliter or so?) into those siezed cars though a broken window (or injected through door seals). Naturally, it would be important to anonymously call the local newspaper or TV stations and report on what had occurred, possibly the EPA as well. That car would suddenly change from a $10,000 asset into possibly a $100,000 liability for the agency which siezed them.. Just a thought Jim Bell Better Living Through Chemistry

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