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[IP] Judge says no to law enforcement cell-phone tracking request
by David Farber 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

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Domestic surveillance and warrantless wiretaps
by Matt Blaze 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Like many people, I found last week's Newsweek cover piece, revealing Thomas M. Tamm as the principal source for James Risen and Eric Lichtblau's 2005 NY Times story that broke the warrantless wiretap story, to be a riveting read. But I actually found a sidebar to the story even more interesting. That story talks about the now famous 2004 incident at Ashcroft's hospital bed in which several top DoJ officials threatened to resign. It turns out that was not about warrantless content collection, but rather about the wholesale collection of call records: http://www.newsweek.com/id/174602/output/print This story raises a number of new -- and ultimately quite disturbing -- questions about the nature of the wiretap program and the extent of its reach into the domestic communication of innocent Americans. In particular, put together with other reports about the program, it seems to corroborate claims that telcos (including my alma matter AT&T) provided the NSA with wholesale access to domestic call detail records, and that top DoJ officials worried seriously that this violated the law. I discuss the implications of this in more detail on my blog; perhaps some here will find it interesting: http://www.crypto.com/blog/metatapping -matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)metzdowd.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: <nettime> Now also bankers know what bitcoins are
by Jaromil 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

hi Aharon, On Thu, 07 Apr 2011, aha(a)aharonic.net wrote: > bitcoins - isn't this simply a distributed structure to do > capitalism with? That's not even the worst you can do with it. you can do money laundering, buy drugs online and sex toys, all anonymously. but that's not the point, because despite the coercion imposed by all kinds of regulatory systems so far, also current official monetary systems are full of that shit, on top of the capitalist pie. Emerging technologies should never be judged by the sensationally bad taste of early adopters. it's like being concerned about the shit that fertilizes some beautiful flowers, wasting their seeds. What really bitcoin is, I finally understood on the 6 april (which somehow always ends up being a magic day, eh!): this is now the end of the *flow capitalism*, which consists of the monopoly on transactions, the hegemony of banks on the movement of values and not just their storage, this middle-man mafia strangling the world as we speak. How right are now those South American countries asking the "taxation of transactions", an argument refrained in many speeches of the companeros. They studied the system and understood that there is a crucial problem there, that needs to be solved urgently. Yet i'd argue here taxation on transaction cannot be the solution. The solution is to eliminate the flow capitalists. If i want to give you money i'll give it to *you*. me and you, period. its fine that we'll pay our taxes for our communities, don't get me wrong this is not a tea bagger argument. its just not right that all what we do is in the hands of a third party, that has been caught cheating already many times: look at what happened at the paypal accounts of the Iraqi linux user group back in 2004, or even more recently to Wikileaks. We don't need those fat cheaters to be in between our value transactions anymore; the flow capital has played its disgusting role in the little laps of history for which it has been needed, now sadly these people won't give up what they have accumulated, so it makes more sense to leave them alone and multiply more monetary systems that work efficiently across diverse networks and that rely on the neutrality of a cryptographic authentication. the death of the flow capital is a new stage for the necrotization of capitalism. ciao -- jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: B2D9 9376 BFB2 60B7 601F 5B62 F6D3 FBD9 C2B6 8E39 # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime(a)kein.org ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: <nettime> Now also bankers know what bitcoins are
by Jaromil 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

hi Aharon, On Thu, 07 Apr 2011, aha(a)aharonic.net wrote: > bitcoins - isn't this simply a distributed structure to do > capitalism with? That's not even the worst you can do with it. you can do money laundering, buy drugs online and sex toys, all anonymously. but that's not the point, because despite the coercion imposed by all kinds of regulatory systems so far, also current official monetary systems are full of that shit, on top of the capitalist pie. Emerging technologies should never be judged by the sensationally bad taste of early adopters. it's like being concerned about the shit that fertilizes some beautiful flowers, wasting their seeds. What really bitcoin is, I finally understood on the 6 april (which somehow always ends up being a magic day, eh!): this is now the end of the *flow capitalism*, which consists of the monopoly on transactions, the hegemony of banks on the movement of values and not just their storage, this middle-man mafia strangling the world as we speak. How right are now those South American countries asking the "taxation of transactions", an argument refrained in many speeches of the companeros. They studied the system and understood that there is a crucial problem there, that needs to be solved urgently. Yet i'd argue here taxation on transaction cannot be the solution. The solution is to eliminate the flow capitalists. If i want to give you money i'll give it to *you*. me and you, period. its fine that we'll pay our taxes for our communities, don't get me wrong this is not a tea bagger argument. its just not right that all what we do is in the hands of a third party, that has been caught cheating already many times: look at what happened at the paypal accounts of the Iraqi linux user group back in 2004, or even more recently to Wikileaks. We don't need those fat cheaters to be in between our value transactions anymore; the flow capital has played its disgusting role in the little laps of history for which it has been needed, now sadly these people won't give up what they have accumulated, so it makes more sense to leave them alone and multiply more monetary systems that work efficiently across diverse networks and that rely on the neutrality of a cryptographic authentication. the death of the flow capital is a new stage for the necrotization of capitalism. ciao -- jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: B2D9 9376 BFB2 60B7 601F 5B62 F6D3 FBD9 C2B6 8E39 # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime(a)kein.org ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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[drone-list] New Yorker article on drones
by villa＠ee.ucla.edu 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hi All, The most recent New Yorker has an article called "Heres Looking at You: Invasion of the drones" by Nick Paumgarten. I haven't actually read the article yet - online access is behind a paywall, so I'm going to buy this on the newsstand. For those of you who are New Yorker subscribers, here is the link: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/05/14/120514fa_fact_paumgarten Apparently (based on the article description at the New Yorker web site that's not behind the paywall),the article does consider privacy concerns, though I don't know to what depth, or with what conclusion or point of view. Thanks, John _______________________________________________ drone-list mailing list drone-list(a)lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/drone-list If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you click above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?" You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [tahoe-dev] Resurrecting Mojo Nation
by Jack Byer 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:08 AM, James A. Donald <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote: > Price discovery, when done by human agents, is expensive. The stock > exchange and its traders have a lot of overheads. > > One explanation for the failure of Mojo Nation was that people would not > take the time to do price discovery for micro transactions. I agree. That is why price discovery should be automated by software agents. _______________________________________________ tahoe-dev mailing list tahoe-dev(a)tahoe-lafs.org https://tahoe-lafs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tahoe-dev ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Judge says no to law enforcement cell-phone tracking request
by Gregory Hicks 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

http://rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=24009 ---------------------------------------- By Heather Forsgren Weaver Sep 6, 2005 WASHINGTON A federal judge in New York has ruled that law enforcement may not track someone without probable cause, according to News.com by CNET. Burton Ryan, an assistant U.S. attorney, had tried to obtain a "pen register" tap that would track constantly a target whenever his cell phone was in use. U.S. Magistrate Judge James Orenstein said no. To require that type of information, Ryan must apply for a wiretap, which requires probable cause. "I don't know anything about the specific case, but it is true that location information only attaches to a court order obtained with probable cause," said Les Szwajkowski, a former FBI agent now with Raytheon Corp "This is exactly the role magistrates are supposed to play. They are not rubber stamps." The rules implementing the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act said that law enforcement was entitled to pen register information from a cell-phone conversation at the beginning and end of the call. This information would make it similar to a pen register in the wired world, which gives the date, time and number called. Because the location is fixed in the wired world, the location is known. According to CNET, Orenstein said that more definitive rules need to be established. "My research on this question has failed to reveal any federal case law directly on point. Moreover, it is my understanding based on anecdotal information that magistrate judges in other jurisdictions are being confronted with the same issue but have not yet achieved consensus on how to resolve it. If the government intends to continue seeking authority to obtain cell-site location information in aid of its criminal investigations, I urge it to seek appropriate review of this order so that magistrate judges will have more authoritative guidance in determining whether controlling law permits such relief on the basis of the relaxed standards set forth (under federal law), or instead requires adherence to the more exacting standard of probable cause," wrote Orenstein. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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[IP] Judge says no to law enforcement cell-phone tracking request
by David Farber 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

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[drone-list] New Yorker article on drones
by villa＠ee.ucla.edu 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hi All, The most recent New Yorker has an article called "Heres Looking at You: Invasion of the drones" by Nick Paumgarten. I haven't actually read the article yet - online access is behind a paywall, so I'm going to buy this on the newsstand. For those of you who are New Yorker subscribers, here is the link: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/05/14/120514fa_fact_paumgarten Apparently (based on the article description at the New Yorker web site that's not behind the paywall),the article does consider privacy concerns, though I don't know to what depth, or with what conclusion or point of view. Thanks, John _______________________________________________ drone-list mailing list drone-list(a)lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/drone-list If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you click above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?" You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [tahoe-dev] Resurrecting Mojo Nation
by Jack Byer 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:08 AM, James A. Donald <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote: > Price discovery, when done by human agents, is expensive. The stock > exchange and its traders have a lot of overheads. > > One explanation for the failure of Mojo Nation was that people would not > take the time to do price discovery for micro transactions. I agree. That is why price discovery should be automated by software agents. _______________________________________________ tahoe-dev mailing list tahoe-dev(a)tahoe-lafs.org https://tahoe-lafs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tahoe-dev ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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