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DES flushed from numerical recipes
by phr＠napa.Telebit.COM 02 Feb '93

02 Feb '93

Fans of the Numerical Recipes book might like to know there's a second edition out. It includes quite a few improvements, and a much expanded chapter on random number generation. However, the DES routine from the first edition has been flushed on the grounds that it was too slow to be useful as an RNG. Oh well.

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Re: turning on yourself during car stops
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 02 Feb '93

02 Feb '93

> >From: Peter Honeyman <honey(a)citi.umich.edu> > >i believe there is a special exception related to automobiles > >that makes them subject to search without a warrant when the > >driver is placed under arrest. but check with a lawyer. Just be sure not to get out of your car - there are different rules that apply to cars without occupants in them, though your state's rules may vary. But it's much better to avoid getting to that stage. Be friendly in your non-cooperation, and if a hostile-looking cop wants to see whether your papers are in order, give him your license, registration, insurance papers, *and* your ACLU card ("Don't leave home without it"). As a friend of mine says to cops, "If you've got a legal right to search my car, I'm sure you will, but if you need my permission, you don't have it." Of course, this is no longer really cypherpunks material, just regular punks :-) Bill Stewart, somewhere in New Jersey

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MAILreaders: NUpop
by pfarrell＠cs.gmu.edu 01 Feb '93

01 Feb '93

I've been playing with NUpop, (a PC program) and am impressed with it. It would help bring PGP to the masses, except that currently the source is not available. The author says that supporting external filter programs is on his list, but it is a long list. The home FTP site for nupop is casbah.acns.nwu.edu in the /pub/nupop directory. Current field release is nupop103.zip, with nupop110.zip in 'beta' stages. It is widely available - ask archie. While I really like NUpop, unless the sources become available, or the priority of external filters gets higher on the list, we need to look elseware. Can someone with experience with Eudora for the PC give a short review? Thanks Pat Pat Farrell, Grad Student pfarrell(a)cs.gmu.edu Department of Computer Science, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA PGP key available via finger or request #include standard.disclaimer

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Re: Eudora mail reader for the Macintosh
by John W Noerenberg 01 Feb '93

01 Feb '93

At 10:49 AM 2/1/93 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: > >I'll bring a copy of Eudora 1.3b119 to the next meeting (Feb. 13th). I had >to ResEdit some stuff to make it work with NETCOM, with the help of a >friend. Stuff like login name, location of the POP server, and expected >responses. Getting it to work on the W.E.L.L. may take some hacking, but >I'm sure it'll work. The official release of 1.3 should be available from our ftp site on the 3rd. That's the day we are scheduled to go golden with the PC and Mac verisons. There will be other ftp sites as well. Send a note to eudora-info(a)qualcomm.com for our canned reply. john noerenberg jwn2(a)qualcomm.com noerenberg.j (Applelink) =========================================================== That which has always been accepted by everyone, everwhere, is almost certain to be false. -- John Millington Synge "Tel Quel" [1943] ===========================================================

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Eudora mail reader for the Macintosh
by tcmay＠netcom.com 01 Feb '93

01 Feb '93

(I wrote this as a reply to Dave Deltorto, then realized there may be other Mac-using cypherpunks for whom this might be useful.) Meta-message to list: I propose a brief AGENDA ITEM on mail readers like Eudora and the DOS versions, as part of our understanding of what mail readers are out there and what may need to be hacked to incorporate PGP. RIPEM, etc. I'll speak very briefly on Eudora, and others can speak on others readers. How's this sound? Dave Deltorto writes: (part of some e-mail we exchanged....nothing sensitive, so I hope Dave doesn't mind me quoting it and distributing it to the List.) BTW, Dave is referring to my "Top Ten Reasons I Don't Use PGP" article I sent out to this list a few months back and which I forwarded to him recently. >Listen, in case I didn't mention this, I DID enjoy your Top Ten spoof, and I >sort of figured that by now you had the MacPGP (do you have the .73 beta?). I have the 0.5.3 version, which seems to work OK. Eudora (the mail reader program) has made reading PGP messages much easier--I automatically get all my mail, cut the PGP messages into the clipboard, insert them into Vantage (a text editor), rename them "message.asc", close the file, then tell MacPGP to decrypt them. Seems to work, and is a whole lot better than having to zmodem each file individually! (In case you're wondering, the combination of NETCOM, Emacs, etc. would not allow me to cut-and-paste into or out of the editor, hence the need to zmodem the files back to my home machine. Eudora takes care of all of this! I wrote, and then Dave replied: >>>By the way, I've been using "Eudora," an automated mail delivery and >>>retrieval system for the Mac. If you're interested, I can show it to you at >>>the next Cypherpunks meeting. > >Yes, I am very interested in Eudora. Could I use it to automatically gather >my Internet mail off the Well? I don't know anything about it, so that may be >a dumb question, but I look forward to meeting you at the next meeting where >you can clue me in and show it to me. I'll bring a copy of Eudora 1.3b119 to the next meeting (Feb. 13th). I had to ResEdit some stuff to make it work with NETCOM, with the help of a friend. Stuff like login name, location of the POP server, and expected responses. Getting it to work on the W.E.L.L. may take some hacking, but I'm sure it'll work. (NETCOM is a wonderful service, though, and you should seriously consider using it instead of the W.E.L.L....fixed monthly fee for unlimited use. If you're within one of the many POPs (points of presence, not to be confused with the "Post Office Protocol" cited above!) in the Bay Area (or L.A., Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, etc.), the connections are free. Also, you get 5 MB of storage for files, buffer space, etc., instead of the measly W.E.L.L. allotment.) -Tim -- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: waiting for the dust to settle.

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mh wrappers for pgp.
by shipley＠dis.org 01 Feb '93

01 Feb '93

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- #!/usr/local/bin/tperl4.010 #!/usr/local/bin/perl # pgpedit V1.0 # Mon Feb 1 04:10:42 PST 1993 # Peter Shipley (shipley(a)utter.dis.org -or- shipley(a)berkeley.edu) # to install (mh instructions) # place this script in your path (eg ~/bin) # create few links: # # ln -s /usr/local/mh/bin/repl ~/bin/pgprepl # ln -s /usr/local/mh/bin/comp ~/bin/pgpcomp # # Add the following to your .mh_profile: # # pgprepl: -editor pgpedit # pgpcomp: -editor pgpedit # # To use just use the commands pgprepl or pgpcomp instead of repl or comp # require "sys/wait.ph"; #custom stuff here #default editor $defaulteditor="/usr/ucb/vi"; $pgpcommand="/usr/local/bin/pgp -sta +clearsig=on"; $debug=0; #test the arg count die "bad argument count" if ($#ARGV > 0); #set the umask to something really paranoid umask(07177); #set the path if there is not one $ENV{'PATH'} = '/bin:/usr/ucp:/usr/bin' unless $ENV{'PATH'}; # get the editor if ($ENV{'VISUAL'}) { $editor=$ENV{'VISUAL'} ; } elsif ($ENV{'EDITOR'}) { $editor=$ENV{'EDITOR'} ; } else { $editor = $defaulteditor; } $editor = $defaulteditor if $editor =~ /pgpedit/ ; # prepare the file. &prepfile($ARGV[0]); # run the editor &runeditor($ARGV[0]); # have pgp sign the file &SignMailFile($ARGV[0]); # the end exit 0; sub SignMailFile { local($INPUT) = @_; local($BODY) = "/tmp/pgp$$.body"; local($PGPBODY) = "$BODY".".asc"; print "$INPUT \n" if ($debug); open(INPUT, "+>>$INPUT" ) || die "failed to open $INPUT: $!\n"; seek(INPUT,0, 0); open(BODY, "+>$BODY") || die "failed to open $BODY: $!\n"; select(BODY); $| = 1; select(STDOUT); line: while (<INPUT>) { if (/^--------/) { $where = tell; last; } } print STDERR "$BODY \n" if ($debug); while (<INPUT>) { print BODY $_; } print STDERR "$pgpcommand $BODY\n" if ($debug); `$pgpcommand $BODY`; truncate(BODY, 0); unlink($BODY); close(BODY); open(PGPBODY) || die "failed to open $PGPBODY: $!\n"; truncate(INPUT,$where) || warn "failed to truncate file $FILE: $!\n"; seek(INPUT,$where,0); print INPUT "\n\n"; print INPUT <PGPBODY>; truncate(PGPBODY, 0); unlink($PGPBODY); close(PGPBODY); return; } sub prepfile { local($FILE) = @_; local(@data); open(FILE, "+>>$FILE" ) || die "failed to open $FILE: $!\n"; seek(FILE, 0, 0); while(<FILE>) { push (@data, $_); last if ( /^--------/ ); } # push (@data, "\n\n\n"); while(<FILE>) { last if (/^-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----/); } if( !eof(FILE) ) { while(<FILE>) { last if (/^-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----/); push (@data , $_); } seek(FILE, 0, 0); truncate(FILE, 0); print FILE @data; } close(FILE); return; } sub runeditor { local($file) = @_; local($pid); FORK: { if ($pid = fork) { wait; } elsif (defined $pid) { # $pid is zero here if defined exec "$editor $file"; } elsif ($! =~ /No more process/) { # EAGAIN, supposedly recoverable fork error sleep 5; redo FORK; } else { # weird fork error die "Can't fork: $!\n"; } } return; } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.1 iQBFAgUBK20WHMhmn7GUWLLFAQFBawF6AuCjRKbZQcAM1NFXwrYO1MLmTvPcV7FC loRe/LqIoNwMST9sKfDFNSBoKmvCEaaB =Cjuz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: party...
by shipley＠dis.org 01 Feb '93

01 Feb '93

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ># PS: ther party went very well and I did get a chance to meet a few more ># people from this list. > >I also made it to the party, and would not have, had it not been for >the announcement on cypherpunks. Please do make announcements ... and >leave it for individual punks to decide how far they should drive, fly, >swim, etc. for a party! ( It took me two trains, one bus, and a seven >block walk. ) I run a party mailing list if anyone is intrested, anyone holding a party can email a invite to it the address is "ba-party(a)utter.dis.org" for those in Santa Curz there is a mailing list called "party(a)amory.com" email me if anyone is intrested ba-party. -Pete PS: henry, I added you to the list already. PPS: enough of this non-pgp stuff, anyone want to help me setup a remailer on my home systems? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.1 iQBFAgUBK2xmTMhmn7GUWLLFAQEeEgF9EVFsIj8VA/zX4a8ycRppfyutsPO4shBQ 7L+FblZU7nL2ASYSmtVqQ4lu55SL35VB =qYGx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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No Subject
by Eric.K.Kuecherer＠Dartmouth.EDU 31 Jan '93

31 Jan '93

Is this real? -kuech-

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party...
by Don Henson 31 Jan '93

31 Jan '93

--> she would like to see some new faces at this party (not just the berkeley regulars) <-- Does this mean that all cypherpunks live in driving distance of Berkeley? If so, I guess I'd better unsubscribe fast since I live in Hawaii. Be a bit of drive from there, eh? Don Henson PGP key available on request P.S. Happy Birthday

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Re: Remailer Abuse?
by tony＠morgan.demon.co.uk 31 Jan '93

31 Jan '93

In message <930131020759_72466.3616_EHB92-4(a)CompuServe.COM> you write: > --> > > Is someone using my remailer to send trash to innocent young girls? > I am uncomfortable to be facilitating this kind of activity. Can anyone > offer suggestions for the ethical thing to do in this situation? > > Hal > > <-- > > You didn't say but I assume from the context that your remailer is anonymous. > If that is the case, then you have a decision to make. You can either keep > your remailer anonymous and not be concerned about what goes thru it or you can > make it a moderated list so that you become responsible for everything that is > posted. Which way do you want it? Not necessarily. Surely, he can keep logs for a limited period. If no complaint arrives, discard the logs. If anybody complains, pass it on with endorsement if necessary. Also, put a disclaimer in your mail, that you are not responsible for the opinions expressed. Tony +-----------------+-------------------------------+--------------------------+ | Tony Kidson |`morgan' is an 8MB 486/33 Cat-| Voice +44 81 466 5127 | | Morgan Towers, |Warmer with a 670 MB Hard Disk.| E-Mail | | Morgan Road, |It resides at Morgan Towers in| tony(a)morgan.demon.co.uk | | Bromley, |Beautiful Down Town Bromley. | tny(a)cix.compulink.co.uk | | England BR1 3QE |Honda ST1100 ==*== DoD# 0801 | 100024.301(a)compuserve.com| +=================+===============================+==========================+

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