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CDR: Tick Tock
by Elan 1 09 Sep '00

09 Sep '00

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CDR: UK Crypto Meet (fwd)
by Jim Choate 09 Sep '00

09 Sep '00

____________________________________________________________________ He is able who thinks he is able. Buddha The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 19:09:22 +0100 From: Ben Laurie <ben(a)algroup.co.uk> To: Cryptography <cryptography(a)c2.net>, Coderpunks <coderpunks(a)toad.com>, UKCrypto List <ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk> Subject: UK Crypto Meet I intend to arrange a short Cypher/Coderpunks-style meeting in London during ApacheCon, which is 23-25th October at the Olympia Conference Centre. The main purpose of the meeting will be to discuss whether we should have real crypto meetings in the London area, and how/where/when to do that. If anyone plans to come, then let me know (I'll need to know numbers so I can book a room). If anyone cares which day/time, let me know. If anyone wants to talk about anything in particular, let me know. If no-one plans to come, I'll give up on the idea, so do tell me if you are up for it! Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html Coming to ApacheCon Europe 2000? http://apachecon.com/

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CDR: StoN, Diffie-Hellman, other junk..
by Asymmetric 09 Sep '00

09 Sep '00

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 First, I gotta say.. only been back on the list a day or two and the Signal to Noise seems to have gotten nearly out of hand.. I don't know what cypherpunks has to do with trying to listen in on cordless phone calls, or how to give someone drugs.. but anyway.. something on topic.. :) I wrote a UDP based encrypted chat program a while back.. it worked well, but I saw the following drawbacks.. 1) It used secret keys that had to be shared beforehand through a prior secure channel. 2) Being UDP based, I was forced to operate the ciphers in ECB instead of CBC mode, just in case any of the packets got lost. To make the application more robust, I have started rewriting it to use TCP instead. It is still a peer-peer network, requiring no dedicated servers.. while this increases overhead somewhat, I think it's worth it to keep the system from relying on one particular server, or a group of them. You simply add the IP of the people you want to receive your messages to your list. If someone adds you, when you receive a message from them, it adds them to your list automatically. Downside is currently that everyone must maintain an active TCP connection to everyone else.. but it's not meant to be a replacement for IRC or anything like that, just a secure way to chat and transfer other data such as files or voice. I have also decided to get rid of the key sharing mechanism, and instead utilize D/H to generate a KEK, then transfer a 4096bit data block from the initiating client to the serving client (I'll refer to them as C/S where their role is appropriate, but keep in mind there is no real "server".. much like gnutella or similar systems, every client is a server, and every server a client.) to serve as a master key. The first N bits are used depending on which cipher is negotiated/selected, up to the max supported by my implementation of each cipher. Now, my main question about D/H is quite simple.. what is considered a "good" size for the prime and primitive used, in bits? Obviously something somewhat large, but how large is large enough? 64bits? Less or more? I can't find much information on this anywhere, and my copy of Applied Cryptography (2nd ed.) while covering D/H in detail, doesn't even mention this. An aside is that I'm writing the application in Delphi 5, and the maximum native supported integer sizes are 32bit unsigned, and 64bit signed.. I've been writing a math library of my own in assembler that at compile time will allow you to specify the maximum bitsize you want it to support, but this is proving to be a mind-numbing task.. ;) If anyone is familiar with Delphi and has any libraries like this already, I'd much appreciate hearing about them.. or even some a web resource or paper Real Book (tm) resource that explains in abstract terms how to go about something like this would be appreciated. I had more to write.. but I'm exhausted.. fun crypting to everyone.. ;) - -------signature file------- "'There comes a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part; you can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!" - -Mario Savio- Founder of the Free Speech Movement. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBObcdUGvp1znMxX/XEQJ5RgCg0Z373RKrBi7fdVYgpUkulwmWcgUAoOia FifEVZ1Wp7PPH/XwBMeMCsID =kn5M -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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CDR: FBI Profiles of "School Shooters"
by Eric Cordian 09 Sep '00

09 Sep '00

It's interesting to notice the not particularly subtle anti-youth bias in the FBI's recently released profiles of people they allege are likely to commit violence in schools. Indeed, the terms used are very negative and propagandistic ways of characterizing practically anyone who isn't carefully controlled in thinking and behavior, denied free access to information, and trained to be an obedient doormat for all authority figures. It would be very difficult for any student to not fit some of the factors listed, unless he were the world's greatest Uncle Tom and kissed Massah's ass on a regular basis while ignoring the screams of his fellow inmates while pretending to enjoy the public school experience. Let's look at how the FBI's factors might be expressed in more conventional language. "Student collects injustices and nurses resentments" - Student has reasonable expectations that he and other students will be treated decently, and remembers the names of teachers and administrators who have a long track record of showing disrespect and contempt for students. "Shows exaggerated sense of entitlement" - Expects the school system and those who work there to be held accountable for the quality of service provided. "Signs of depression and a pathological need for attention" - Becomes unhappy when he and other students are treated unjustly, and seeks to find someone who will listen and remedy the situation. "Student's relationship with parents is particularly difficult or turbulent" - Student has high standards for how he is treated at home too. "Parents accept or minimize pathological behavior, setting few limits and possibly seeming intimidated by student" - Parents don't automatically take the side of the school against their child when a disagreement arises. "Student has access to weapons and there is little monitoring of what he watches on TV or the Internet" - The child's home environment is one where privacy, freedom of information, and the Second Amendment are all respected. "Student is detached from other students, teachers, and school activities" - Student has better things to do with his time, than spend 100% of it on school-sponsored busy work. "School does little to prevent or punish disrespectful behavior or bullying" - School does not interfere in student socialization unless an obviously serious problem arises. "A pecking order exists among students, who also observe a code of silence about telling staff of their concerns about other students" - Students refuse to cooperate in ratting out people to the school's profiling program. "Access to computers and the Internet is unsupervised" - The School follows the guidelines of the American Library Association. "Student is intensely and exclusively involved with a group that shares a fascination with violence and extremist beliefs" - Student refuses to criticize Columbine shooters in school-ordered classroom writing assignment, given with the ulterior motive of prying into student's political beliefs. Indeed, the wording of most of these things is exactly like what spews out of the mouth of the typical public school teacher, when a student or the parent of a student has a grievance with the school. Complaining about anything is "attention seeking," getting pissed off is "nursing resentments," the parent defending the child is "the child running the home and no limits being set," etc,etc,etc... The whole attitude expressed by the government here is a really great argument for private schooling or homeschooling. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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CDR: I'm tired of getting SCREWED!!!
by personal-pay-phones 09 Sep '00

09 Sep '00

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CDR: RE: Dead Diana
by steven miller 09 Sep '00

09 Sep '00

Hi mate So how do I view pictures of Diana in the wreckage? Cheers Steve

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CDR: Languages and the Internet Forum LIST (fwd)
by Jim Choate 09 Sep '00

09 Sep '00

____________________________________________________________________ He is able who thinks he is able. Buddha The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 10:10:16 -0400 From: "Karl E. Peters" <bridge(a)darientel.net> Reply-To: orange(a)dns.list To: "discuss(a)ador-doc.org" <discuss(a)ador-doc.org>, Domain Policy List <DOMAIN-POLICY(a)LISTS.NETSOL.COM>, "idno-discuss(a)idno.org" <idno-discuss(a)idno.org> Subject: Languages and the Internet Forum LIST Dear Friends, Seeing that languages, like UDRP, tends to generate a lot of smoke, I have arranged for a special list called "Lingua(a)domain-owners.org" for the purpose of running dialogues on the topic of languages and the internet, both for those interested from a user standpoint and those who stand to develop the technologies. (I think it is good if these groups know each other!!!) As in the case of UDRP(a)domain-owners.org, it will be an open list with a specific interest and all with sincere interest in the subject are welcome to join in or simply lurk and glean ideas Some of you are like me and just intensely interested and others will be the technical genius required to make it all come together, but all are welcome. Auf wieder zehn... Karl E. Peters karl.peters(a)bridgecompanies.com

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CDR: hey whats this site !@
by scott mckay 09 Sep '00

09 Sep '00

HEY THERE IS THIS A SITE FOR CREDIT CARS LET ME KNOW THANKS UMBROS68(a)ONE.NET.AU

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CDR: Ebonite
by Anselmo 09 Sep '00

09 Sep '00

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CDR: Important Text - Something I need to tell you.
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09 Sep '00

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