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CDR: Re: Ho to KICK OUT Junkbusters users
by Nomen Nescio 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Igor Chudov wrote: > One of the most popular features, aside from math help, is "Talk to > Splotchy", which is a conversation with an Eliza-like AI program. But > unlike Eliza, Spltchy is more like a chatterbox with a lot more > personality. Some people even have cybersex with Splotchy. > Also, I have a "talk to George W Bush LIVE" section at > bush-2000.algebra.com. Basically the same thing but politically > educated. Has anyone had cybersex with your incarnation of G W Bush? [shudder]

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CDR: RE: Zero Knowledge changes business model (press release)
by Trei, Peter 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

I can't help but feel that this is a weakening of ZK's position regarding privacy. The critical paragraph is: > >Zero-Knowledge is committed to deploying systems that are > >transparent and accountable. In keeping with this policy, > >MPS will incorporate third party verification and split > >encryption key structures, as well as provide consumers > >with access to white papers, independent auditors' reports > >or other materials that assure a company is doing what it > >claims. With MPS Zero-Knowledge strengthens its commitment > >to building responsible systems that empower consumers to > >control the disclosure and use of their personal > >information, while still enabling businesses to thrive in a > >data and relationship-driven marketplace. > I don't want to be 'assured that a company is doing what it claims' (with my personal information). Companies change policies at whim. What a firm's founder may fervently believe could become a curio of corporate history after the next board meeting. Look at Amazon's recent policy change, for example. Also, data in the possession of a corporation and me is always less secure than information possessed only by me. Instead of being assured that the company is acting in accordance with their stated policy du jour (or at least, their lawyers' spin on it), I want to know that they CAN'T abuse my personal data, because the don't have any. That is the confidence which ZK's original scheme was intended to produce, and which the introduction of this plan seems to seems to suggest is no longer considered a high priority at ZKS. It may be that the ZK's product 'Freedom' is proving a financial bust (I won't use it until I can buy nyms for cash at CompUSA). I understand the drive to meet payroll and pay off VCs, but I can't help but be saddened. I understand that some transactions require more state than "Here's an order, some money, and a shipping address", but in a great many cases, corporations by policy ask far more than this. The most egregious example I've seen is a cheap travel site which, when you register, suggests that you tell them your 'favorite internet password' as a key to get get back to your account. I hope that ZKS's new service doesn't simply "culminate in the deployment of a tailored privacy layer that integrates seamlessly with the client's existing enterprise applications".... but rather looks at their business and informs them of the absolute minimum of data they need to acquire, and how long to keep that data, if they need to keep it at all. I don't want to rely on a 'privacy layer' under the control of an entity which will profit from silently circumventing it, or be subject to leaks and third party seizures of data. Peter Trei Disclaimer: The above represents my personal opinions only.

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CDR: ELIXIR automated signal collection
by Bo Elkjaer 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Hi I'm looking for information concerning a SIGINT system with the codename ELIXIR. I don't know much about it except that was (is?) deployed by the US Air Force, probably in the United Kingdom, initially in the late 80'ies. I have located one former USAF Analyst who claims to have worked with the system. He's in Florida now, but was in the UK 1983-1987. Any info on ELIXIR will be much appreciated. Yours Bo Elkjaer, Denmark >>Bevar naturen: Sylt et egern.<< >>URL: http://www.datashopper.dk/~boo/index.html<< >>ECHELON URL:<< >>http://www1.ekstrabladet.dk/netdetect/echelon.iasp<<

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CDR: Bush Calls Administration Encryption Policy "Outdated" (was Re: GigaLaw.com Daily News, October 31, 2000)
by R. A. Hettinga 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

At 5:19 AM -0800 on 10/31/00, GigaLaw.com wrote: > [POLITICS] > Bush Calls Administration Encryption Policy "Outdated" > Responding to a question about encryption technology in an ongoing > Internet debate, Texas Gov. George W. Bush castigated President Clinton > and Vice President Gore for what he called "outdated" technology policy. > "The Clinton administration has repeatedly been slow to recognize the > realities of the international market for encryption products regulated by > our nationís export laws," Bush said in a written response posted on the > Web White & Blue Web page. > Read the article: Newsbytes @ > http://www.newsbytes.com/news/00/157435.html -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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CDR: Why Bill Joy is elitist, myopic, and wrong
by Declan McCullagh 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/10/30/2058257&mode=nested Why Bill Joy is Elitist, Myopic, and Wrong By Lizard October 30, 2000 The smallpox vaccine will cause people to turn into cows. Trains cannot be permitted to travel more than 20 miles per hour, or else the passengers will asphyxiate. The atomic bomb will detonate the entire atmosphere of Earth. The history of science is filled with dire predictions of the consequences of technology, few of which ever come true. (Granted, many of the more lofty hopes for technology likewise fail to appear. Where's my personal helicopter and laser gun, dammit?) But fear sells papers, which explains why Bill Joy is given far more column-inches than he deserves. (Joy, the cofounder of Sun Microsystems, spoke at a Camden Technology conference over the weekend.) The most distressing thing about his Luddite stand is the undercurrent of elitism which flows by without criticism. The common man must not be permitted access to the glorious fruits of science, he says, because out there among the teeming masses might be murderers and madmen. Well, we'd probably better make sure they don't get their hands on fire and the wheel, too -- who knows what might happen? Joy is wrong on a wide range of levels, but his most egregious error is that he has precisely the wrong solution to the alleged problem. If he fears the misuse of biotech or nanotech, the last thing that should be done is to turn these technologies into state secrets, because that puts the knowledge right into the hands of those with a history of using it for evil, namely, politicians. If something can be done, it will be done, and all that suppressing information will achieve is ensuring there is not ready access to counter-measures to whatever devious plots Joy's hypothetical supercriminals may devise. "Open sourcing" technology will all but guarantee that for every uber-anthrax, there's an uber-vaccine; for every bit of world-devouring grey-goo, there's something that will eat it even faster. Locking technology away is no solution. If the public knowledge base of the world has reached the point where one scientist can make the next breakthrough, then there are dozens of other scientists who can do likewise. And, of course, who will watch the watchers? We've already seen that secrets aren't: There are more leaks in the U.S. national security apparatus than in a Russian space station. Better to simply open it up and be done with it. There is nothing dehumanizing about the probable merger of flesh and silicon. It simply continues the path man began when the first barely-erect hairy ape realized a fist holding a rock got you more than a fist alone. From that moment on, we became defined by our tools. There is no point and no purpose in trying to stop now. Joy is fond of saying "the future doesn't need us." He is almost completely wrong. The future needs most of us. It's just that the future -- and the present -- doesn't need him. To post your response or contact the author, visit: http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/10/30/2058257&mode=nested

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CDR: NZ: Sweeping powers for spy agencies
by An Metet 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/print/0,1103,460236a10,FF.html 29 OCTOBER 2000 Police and government spy agencies are pushing for major new surveillance powers - including the ability to intercept e-mails. In a move the Council for Civil Liberties labels a "major and disturbing intrusion" new surveillance laws are being planned which will allow police and intelligence agencies to hack covertly into home computers and intercept email and other electronic communication. Researcher and author Nicky Hager, says the proposed legislation strongly resembles the British Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act passed amid huge controversy three months ago. But he says unlike the British experience, the New Zealand legislation is being slipped through in stages, as extensions of present laws. The first is to be tabled in parliament in about 10 days. The laws were devised under the National government and can be traced back to a push by the FBI in the United States for standardised spy systems to intercept mobile phones and emails. The changes are now being promoted by Associate Justice Minister Paul Swain, and would also impose "requirements" on Internet service providers and phone companies to co-operate with intelligence agencies and police and install systems to assist spying on their customers. Hager, whose 1996 book on the global Echelon surveillance network prompted a year-long investigation by the European parliament, said the public had a right to demand proof that the new intrusive powers were so crucial that individuals had to give up privacy and freedoms. He said the way the changes were being introduced, piecemeal and in secret, was "a model of bad government". The first legislation expands the interception powers of the police and the Government Communications Security Bureau to cover all forms of electronic communications (including email, faxes and text messaging) and, for the Security Intelligence Service as well, to cover hacking into computer systems to view and copy people's files. This would be achieved by amending the Crimes Act to make it illegal to intercept emails or hack into computers - and then exempting all the intelligence and law enforcement agencies from the new law. The legislation will also increase the status of the GCSB, moving its existing powers into the Crimes Act. The other half of the plan is changes to the Telecommunications Act, requiring telephone companies to make systems "interceptable". Hager says New Zealand officials secretly agreed to implement the surveillance changes after attending a meeting at the FBI headquarters in Quantico, south of Washington DC, in 1993. Swain says the driving force of the law changes is the wish to protect privacy because there is no legislation to say "wandering into someone's internal communications system is illegal". The exemptions for the government agencies came later, he said.

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CDR: Info on Sun key compromise?
by Lucky Green 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Does anybody on this list have details about the key compromise Sun experienced? See http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/1851 AFIK, this is the first published private key compromise of a major vendor. How did it happen? Thanks, -- Lucky Green <shamrock(a)cypherpunks.to> PGP encrypted email preferred.

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CDR: Copyright Office Backs Digital Law
by An Metet 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/30/technology/30LIBE.html By AMY HARMON In a decision giving copyright holders greater control over the way people use books, movies and music that are distributed in digital form, the United States Copyright Office on Friday endorsed a new federal law making it illegal to break the technological safeguards for such works. The statute goes into effect immediately. The ruling was a defeat for several constituencies Ñ including universities, libraries and computer programmers Ñ that had argued that the law should preserve traditional rights to archive and lend out copyrighted material or to use so-called reverse-engineering to understand how a piece of technology works. The provision endorsed by the copyright office is part of the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Congress passed the act to update the copyright law for the digital era, when copying on a mass scale is far easier than it has ever been. Under the act, it is illegal to create or distribute a device like a computer program that can crack the copy- protection security code on an electronic book or a DVD movie disc. This year, a federal judge found that the Web site of 2600 magazine, whose publisher is Eric Corley, had violated the law by distributing a program designed to break the security code on DVD's so that they could be played on computers running the Linux software operating system. But when the judge issued the ruling, the law did not prohibit the actual use of such a device by individuals because of the pending review by the copyright office. Congress had asked the copyright office to determine whether any exemptions were necessary to ensure that the rights of the users of copyrighted works were balanced with those of copyright holders. Media companies including Sony and Time Warner had argued that the statute was necessary to protect their digital material, like computer games and movies, from widespread unauthorized use. But groups like the Association of American Universities, the American Library Association and the Commerce Department's National Telecommunications and Information Administration maintained that broad exemptions were necessary to preserve the "fair use" rights of individuals. After holding several hearings and receiving comments for almost two years, the copyright office said repeatedly in its ruling that the proponents of various kinds of exemptions had not demonstrated evidence that there would be "substantial harm" if an exemption was not granted. The ruling, issued by the Library of Congress, which oversees the copyright office, will be in effect for three years, during which the copyright office will continue to examine its effect. In a statement, the Library of Congress said that it intended to ask Congress to reconsider that time frame, noting the "potential damage to scholarship may well ensue in the course of a three-year period." Under the law, civil statutory damages for gaining access to a piece of copyrighted material secured by computer code range from $200 to $2,500. Criminal penalties includes fines of as much as $1 million or 10 years in jail for repeat offenses.

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CDR: Important Text - ebay4sex gets laid
by Mary＠toad.com 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

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CDR: the wild ones
by billp＠nmol.com 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

http://members.tripod.com/bill_3_2/load2.htm Us wild ones are having FUN

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