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(no subject)
by PFSanta Claus 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Hi, I came across your addies in a search off ask Jeeves and thought perhaps due to the way your interests run you might be up on this topic. I'm a Sr. Support Analyst for a large vendor and recently was asked by one of my casual internet contacts if there was a way to prevent a "keyboard logging" surveillance program from prevailing on their system and reporting the goings on from their keyboard. In an effort to be helpful, I set about my normal pattern of research and found that there seems to be a ton of info promoting various products, yet there is virtually nothing I could find which offers any realistic or reliable countermeasures that can be taken to prevent someone from logging the output from your keyboard. Even the hackers seem to think it isn't a threat to anyone's privacy. Weird... So anyway, all I'm asking is that should you know where I can find resources that assist me in defeating such software (especially if it's undetected), I would gratefully accept any guidance you could offer. That's all I need, I won't take anymore of your time. Peace, Tom (aka Santa) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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RE: Freenet and anarcho-capitalist
by Trei, Peter 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Bob, this is the opposite problem from posting an entire article in HTML. You've provided no info beyond the subject line as to why I or anyone should look at slashdot. Slashdot puts out 10-12 articles a day; which one should I look at? At the very least, you could have given the URL for a specific article, as it is your uninformative link becomes even more useless as it rapidly ages. It's really not too hard to do the Right Thing; Here's an example from today's /.: ---------start example------------ http://slashdot.org/articles/00/12/19/149227.shtml Judge Says Port Scanning Is Legal Posted by CmdrTaco on Tuesday December 19, @10:09AM from the thousands-of-lines-of-log-files dept. cvbear0 writes: "SecurityFocus has an article explaining a ruling from a U.S. district court ruling in Georgia about port scanning. The judge ruled that that port scanning tools neither "impair the integrity nor availability of the network." Both parties agreed not to appeal the judge's ruling." -----------end example--------------- ...that took me about 15 seconds - 1 click to get to the specific article (so I could easily get the article specific URL) and 2 cut-and-paste actions (one for the URL and one for the teaser text). If you won't show any common courtesy towards your intended audience, don't expect them to read your postings. Peter Trei > ---------- > From: Jim Choate[SMTP:ravage@einstein.ssz.com] > Reply To: Jim Choate > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 8:57 AM > To: cypherpunks(a)einstein.ssz.com > Subject: CDR: Freenet and anarcho-capitalist > > > http://slashdot.org > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a > smaller group must first understand it. > > "Stranger Suns" > George Zebrowski > > The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate > Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com > www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 > -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >

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Re: Houston [was: The Cost of California Liberalism]
by Trei, Peter 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

> Ken Brown[SMTP:k.brown@ccs.bbk.ac.uk] wrote: > > When I worked in the Oil business some of my less sensitive English > colleagues sometimes tried to parody Texan accents. They always got it > very wrong - for example saying "Hooston" most Americans would instead > of "Hyooston" as both we English and the Texans do (of course the name > is originally Scottish (a place near Glasgow) and in it's homeland is > "Hooston".) > And in the Big Apple we can tell out-of-towners in a New York second by asking them the name of the street at the southern base of the numbered grid system. It's Houston Street, and every citizen knows it's 'house-ton'. "It doesn't matter where you are; if it's not New York, you're Out Of Town." Peter Trei

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Re: keyboard loggers.
by Scot Scot 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Alright... gotta get my two centz in here. #Yo out to Bill S... always good advice I'm guessing that with santa's problem it is almost impossible to keep people from putting key loggers onto a system if they have physical access to them. HPFS (Easy to beat) NTFS (Easy to beat) NTFS 5 (Easy to beat) UFS (Easy to beat) FAT (hahahahahhaha) It's all risk assessment Santa. If you don't trust your elves ya gotta pull the floppy, Zip, CD-ROM etc... access. Key loggers are easy to code and can be named whatever you call them. You could however write a simple program to look for all the executable files on your systems and the do a sum of the previous days results to see if there are any changes. Intrusion detection is key to picking this stuff up... its a process you engauge in. Not a capability you will be able to attain. Scoty "It's all about the Pentium" -Wierd Al >From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart(a)pobox.com> >To: "PFSanta Claus" <pf_santa(a)hotmail.com>, cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: Re: keyboard loggers. >Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:23:22 -0800 > >If you have to worry about people installing keyboard logging >programs on your machine without your permission, either >- you're using a public shared machine at a coffeeshop or school > or Kinko's to do things you think need security, or >- you're using your employer's machine, and shouldn't do things > that are inappropriate to do at work, >- you're using your employer's machine, and need a new employer > who trusts his employees instead of feeling compelled > to spy on them, >- you're using your employer's machine, and your employer has > a serious security problem with people trying to crack in at night, >- you're sharing your home machine with a teenager who runs > all sorts of game programs downloaded off the net > or borrowed from friends, viruses and all, >- you've got serious security problems of your own - > if they can sneak in and install programs like that, > they can install anything else they want, > copy your hard disk, probably even steal your hard disk, or >- the paranoids really are out to get you. > >For the shared-machine problem, don't use insecure machines >to do secure stuff. Use disposable email accounts, >American Express one-shot credit card numbers, >and if you must log in to something, use one-time passwords >(either S/Key or SecureID tokens or some similar mechanism.) > >There's been some work done on encryption programs that run >in hand-held computers, whether Palm Pilot things with displays >or JavaRings or smartcards without them. Matt Blaze, Ian Goldberg, >and Martin Minow have done presentations on those topics. > >I'll leave you to figure out employer problems, >and there are professionals who can help with paranoia, >as long as you get to them before the Feds get to you. > >One approach for the teenager problem (or the related problem of >machines for lab use, especially firewall research) >is removable disk drives. You can get disk drive drawers for >IDE/Ultra/DMA/etc for about $20, and spare disks are only $100 or so. >Keep a clean copy for installing software you trust, >password-protected-screensavered to reduce accidents, >and give the kid his own disk to play with, >plus teach him how to reinstall software from CD-ROM >when it gets trashed. It's the computer equivalent of >buying a full-sized beater car for your kid to learn to drive in - >extra weight, airbags, and an exterior you don't care about dents in. > >If the kid has his own machine, and you're sharing a network, >that's more trouble. You'll have to firewall your machine >off from the kid's, or at least mainly run the clean copy >disconnected from the net, and make sure the kid keeps >current virus protection installed and running. > > >At 12:05 PM 12/18/00 -0900, PFSanta Claus wrote: > >Hi, > > I came across your addies in a search off ask Jeeves and thought >perhaps > >due to the way your interests run you might be up on this topic. I'm a >Sr. > >Support Analyst for a large vendor and recently was asked by one of my > >casual internet contacts if there was a way to prevent a "keyboard >logging" > >surveillance program from prevailing on their system and reporting the > >goings on from their keyboard. In an effort to be helpful, I set about my > >normal pattern of research and found that there seems to be a ton of info > >promoting various products, yet there is virtually nothing I could find > >which offers any realistic or reliable countermeasures that can be taken >to > >prevent someone from logging the output from your keyboard. Even the >hackers > >seem to think it isn't a threat to anyone's privacy. Weird... > > > Thanks! > Bill >Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com >PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Re: (no subject)
by Anarchysk8er123＠cs.com 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

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Re: The Cost of Natural Gas [was Re: The Cost of California Liberalism]
by auto58194＠hushmail.com 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

"Raymond D. Mereniuk" wrote: > Actually if California had been building power plants in recent years > we would not have this short term price issue. If they had built a > power plant they would have committed to a supplier of natural gas > who would have arranged a supply (drill wells) and arranged > delivery (build pipeline capacity). The problem now is no one in > California made commitments so the market did not build supply > and delivery capacity. California consumers are now forced to > purchase their requirements in a commodity market causing the >current distortions. Huh? Let's make this simple. How is California's lack of power plants causing natural gas prices to rise? Plants that don't exist don't use gas and don't contribute to shortages. California's importing power from elsewhere, so why didn't these other generators commit to natural gas suppliers? Hint: transmission losses aren't a recent discovery. Either you're confused or you're trying to use the cold winter as an excuse to create a strawman for your anti-Californian views. Tim, Jim and Bill have already given good responses to the economic side of things, so I won't comment further in that vein. > It would be nice if Californians took responsibility for their lifestyle, > built the power plants in California and dealt with environmental > issues themselves. You have a choice, if you don't want power > plants, don't use power. Or: It would be nice if everybody took responsibility for their lifestyle, took care of their own power needs and dealt with environmental issues themselves. You have a choice, if you don't want higher power bills, don't use power.

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