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Re: to Jim.
by Blank Frank 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

At 10:18 AM 1/10/01 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >Is it just me, or is Choate worth keeping around purely for >comedic value? Well he does distract us from the "50% spam, 25% can't we do something about this spam" content of the list. Besides, rarely do we get visitors from alternate universes who are articulate about how theirs works. Maybe he's just a secret low-growth Texas plan to deter the Bay from migrating to cheaper housing.

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by Jim Choate 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

See, http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr for help. ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:34:05 EST From: KetraSaj(a)aol.com Reply-To: cypherpunks(a)ssz.com To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: CDR: remove remove

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Military survelliance program aims to detect biowar attack
by Declan McCullagh 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

>Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:24:51 -0500 >To: politech(a)politechbot.com >From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> >Subject: Military survelliance program aims to detect biowar attack > > >******* > >http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2671596,00.html > >Catching The Bug Before It Kills >By Doug Brown, Interactive Week >January 7, 2001 7:26 PM ET > >Web sites and a broad sweep of electronic databases are being targeted by >the military for a vast surveillance project aimed at detecting incidents >of bio-terrorism before it's too late. [...] > >******** > >Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:58:56 -0500 >Message-Id: <200101092258.AA586350668(a)mail.cipherwar.com> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >From: " Scully(a)cipherwar.com" <Scully(a)mail.cipherwar.com> >To: <declan(a)well.com> >Subject: DARPA's new Bio-Surveillance program > >URL: http://cipherwar.com/news/01/darpa_baa0117.htm > >BAA 01-17: A Biological Defense System or an Infringement of Privacy? >....Jan.10.2001 > >In addition to the usual threats against the United States' national >security, a relatively new threat has arisen - the threat of biological >terrorism. There have already been attacks using biological agents in >other countries and possibly against the US military but these have been >on relatively small scales. The possibility of a nation-wide or even >global attack is made possible by the relatively small doses of the agent >needed, the communicability of the resulting disease and the misdiagnosis >of disease as either the common cold or flu. For a comprehensive report >regarding the threat of biological terrorism and especially that of >anthrax, please read Cipherwar's article, entitled, "Anthrax: Are We >Prepared" by visiting http://www.cipherwar.com/news/00/anthrax_meta4.htm . > >To address this growing threat, the Defense Advanced Research Projects >Agency (DARPA) Information Systems Office (ISO) has issued a Broad Agency >Announcement (BAA) to solicit research proposals for a Bio-Surveillance >System project designated BAA 01-17. The initial proposal was published >December 27, 2000 in conjunction with a relatively detailed fact sheet. A >final report is currently being prepared by personnel at DARPA and is said >to be available shortly. The article that follows is not complete but >includes all the information that is currently available. Stay tuned in >the coming months for updates as they become available. > >The main objective of this Bio-Surveillance program is to mine information >from non-traditional sources in the hope that the combination of >information will alert officials to a biological attack faster than would >be possible relying solely on diagnoses made by medical personnel. Due to >the fact that several infections with biological agents manifest >themselves with initial symptoms resembling those of the flu or the common >cold, the possibility that a terrorist attack could go unnoticed for a >lengthy period of time is one of the biggest dangers associated with such >an attack. > >As time passes, those infected with the biological agent die and the >disease can continue to spread throughout the population without any >treatment, quarantine or vaccination systems intact. Traditional disease >surveillance has relied upon the watchful eye of medical professionals who >recognize a disease, order the appropriate tests to confirm or refute the >diagnosis and take the appropriate course of action to treat the illness. >However, during the aftermath of a terrorist attack, the inherent delays >in the lengthy process of diagnosis would result in countless deaths. > >A typical theoretical example follows. Within 24 hours following anthrax >infection, an individual begins to feel flu-like symptoms. If the infected >person actually visits a doctor and if the doctor does not know that there >has been a release of anthrax into the environment, the doctor would >diagnose the person as having the flu and send them home. Meanwhile, the >individual becomes sicker and sicker and soon becomes refractory to >antibiotics designed to treat anthrax. There is a short window of time >that the medication will actually work and once past that, the infected >individual has a 99% chance of dying. Thus, with the aid of a surveillance >system, the epic results of a biological terrorist attack could be >minimized by detecting the attack and taking appropriate measures before >many lives are lost. > >DARPA, in support of their proposal says that "surveillance for covert >biological warfare and biological terrorist activities is needed to >counter the threat. If an event occurs, surveillance is needed to identify >the presence of the pathogen or the initial indicators of disease as soon >as possible so that a rapid response can be implemented." In fact, DARPA >conducted a simulated project that showed that with proper >bio-surveillance, an abnormal health event caused by a terrorist attack >could be detected days before identification by the medical community. >These critical days could save an entire city's population. > >The Bio-Surveillance system will collect data from grocery stores' sales, >pharmacy databases, school absentee databases, animal surveillance >networks, veterinarian and health care records, and apply the information >to an abnormal disease detection algorithm that will be able to identify a >biological attack. >The Bio-Surveillance System program intends to demonstrate that it is >feasible to 1) develop an integrated system using diverse military, >government (federal, state and local) and commercial databases from >geographically dispersed locations, 2) glean applicable data from these >databases while maintaining patient privacy privileges, 3) analyze the >data to discern abnormal biological events from normal epidemiology >patterns and 4) provide alerts to the appropriate DOD emergency response >infrastructure. >BAA 01-17 is only in the initial planning stages. DARPA holds lofty goals >for their proposed surveillance system. >The vision for the Bio-Surveillance Project is to develop the information >technology necessary to alert the DOD of any clandestine bio-agent release >within the CONUS, in time for adequate response. The envisioned network >would gather and integrate information from non-traditional health >information sources...and state-of-the-art bio-sensors for a city with a >large DOD population. The system would support real-time epidemiological >analysis and autonomous alerts of any anomalous or unusual health event in >the DOD military or civilian population. Once a possible anomalous event >is detected, the system would provide the capability for a medical expert >to quickly analyze the possible cause and isolate the infected population >for timely treatment. >As for money, $24 million of taxpayers' money will fund the five-year >DARPA project that will be a system to protect primarily Department of >Defense military and civilian personnel. What about the rest of the public? > >The United States and its allies need some sort of counter to the very >real threat of biological terrorism. However, is the development of yet >another public surveillance program really the answer? Especially a public >surveillance program that holds as its primary objective to protect DoD >military and civilian personnel? Over the recent years, a few undercover >surveillance programs have been discovered and people in general seem >appalled at the notion that they are under the watchful eye of Big >Brother. BAA 01-17 may become the first "publicly-acknowledged" >surveillance system, one that is known about while it is in action. >Combing the currently available information on the Bio-Surveillance >System, there is very little mentioned about protecting the public's >privacy. Perhaps the issue of privacy is a lower priority or even an >afterthought to protecting the nation and especially DoD employees from a >terrorist attack. We should be weary of such a system and approach it with >extr! >eme caution. > >Contributed by meta4(a)cipherwar.com > >For More Information: >http://www.darpa.mil/iso/bios/baa01-17..htm > >Sources: >http://www.arpa.mil/iso/bios/baa01_17faq.html >http://www.darpa.mil/baa/BAA01-17.htm >http://www.darpa.mil/iso/bios/baa01-17..htm >http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2671596,00.html > >-- >Founder >Cipherwar: Information Warfare for Free Thinkers >http://www.Cipherwar.com >--

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by KetraSaj＠aol.com 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

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10 Jan '01

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Re: to Jim.
by Jim Choate 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

Hi Kristen, Please don't send me private email. If you would like to have a discussion then please leave it on whatever 'list' you happen to be refering to. If you find this request strange then perhaps you should go to jya.com and ponder his current situation. Additionaly I join public mailing lists to public conversation, not to foster further private ones. As to the email, I will forward what is relevant and convenient for me to submit at the time. I make no promises about format or attachments, only that if you follow the URL it will be worth your time. Only you can judge that value however. Do as you see fit. Have a nice day. ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Kristen Tsolis wrote: > HeaderDear Jim, > > Thank you for posting relevant and interesting articles to the list. > > I cringe from rehashing what others have already written, but if you could > paste both the URL and the text of interesting tidbits directly into your > posts, I would probable read your posts more often. > > I also prefer not to receive HTML in my email. > > Thanks, Jim. > > -Kristen > > >

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IP & copyright - Somebody with a clue?
by Jim Choate 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

The original article is over on /.. Apparently Baen Books is willing to put their wallet where there mouth is to prove that the current IP argument is doomed. It will be an interesting experiment. http://www.baen.com/library/header.htm -- ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: crypto implementation for small footprint devices
by Xiao, Peter 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

-----Original Message----- From: Josh Richards [mailto:jrichard@cubicle.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 6:21 PM To: coderpunks(a)toad.com; cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: crypto implementation for small footprint devices * Xiao, Peter <pxiao(a)Liberate.com> [20010109 16:01]: > > I am currently looking for crypto implementation that can fit into small > footprint (in the order of 50K or less) devices. Ideally, an SSL type of > protocol meets my requirements but it is almost impossible to implement it > within 50K even with selected cipher suites. So, I am looking for > alternatives (either symmetric key or public key based). I was thinking > about WTLS but looks like its implementation can not be significantly > smaller than that of TLS since it is also based on Public Key cryptography > (I am wondering how it fits into a cellphone). Can any one tell me what is > the approximate size of the client implementation of WTLS. Also, would > anyone send some pointers to me regarding what I am looking for. How small of footprint? 50K (presuming you mean in currency) isn't really a measurement of footprint size to me. :) Would something along the lines of a Java iButton <URL:http://www.ibutton.com/> match your requirements? It truly depends on what you need the device to be capable of...and I don't just mean the crypto implementation but is this a device to be self-powered? How do you need to interface with it? Etc. The device is a DCT2000 set-top box with very limited footprint. Since the box needs to run a lot of other applications, 50K is the space that we would like to spend on the security purpose. The platform supports C interface. -jr ---- Josh Richards [JTR38/JR539-ARIN] <jrichard(a)geekresearch.com/cubicle.net/fix.net/freedom.gen.ca.us> Geek Research LLC - <URL:http://www.geekresearch.com/> IP Network Engineering and Consulting

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RE: cell phone anonymity
by Andrew Jenks 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

In the US they are now selling prepaid phones in electronics stores, computer stores, and -- my favorite -- some Blockbuster movie rental locations. You go in, pick up a box, pay cash at the register, and you're done. No information is required at the time of purchase. Refills available from various retailers depending upon your service company. Again, you walk in, pick one up, pay cash, and leave. -----Original Message----- From: montag montag [mailto:cels451@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 10:07 AM To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: cell phone anonymity Please post the actual experiences about obtaining a pre-paid cell phone (aka "mobile" in the less developed world) without revealing any (correct) identifying info, such as address, telephone no, name, etc. I know that it can be done in Canada. Unsure about US, UK and the rest of europe. regards, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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"Crime plan targets phone thefts"
by Ken Brown 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

"Crime plan targets phone thefts": http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1109000/1109234.stm Apparently, Jack Straw (famously authoritarian British Home Secretary) wants the phone companies to do something about street robbery of mobile phones - now a third of all robbery in London and very embarrassing for the government because it totally masks the genuine underlying ongoing reduction in crime. Straw: "We have a shared interest with mobile telephone manufacturers and the operators in making telephones more secure, It's difficult because many of the phones that are sold these days are the pay-as-you-go phones, but there is more that can be done and this is all about joining together in a partnership with industries, the public and the police to help get these crimes down." So mugging is joined to the now 6 or 7 horsepersons of the infocalypse as yet another reason to ban anonymous phones? I wonder who is in Straw's driving seat this time? Something Must be Done is always a bad start to legislation. Do we get the Dangerous Telephones Act 2001? Ken (and not his employers who are law-abiding people who would do nothing to annoy a Home Secretary)

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