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Rosman's NSA role
by Robert Windrem 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

I am a producer for NBC Nightly News in New York. In 1986, I spent several days in Rosman and nearby Asheville researching Rosman and shooting it from the ground and the air. The ground level shooting was mostly fruitless, but I still have video I shot from a helicopter. At the time, Rosman had 14 dishes in a bowl like area in Pisgah. It was quite secret as the Sun notes. However, the FAA never instituted any restrictions over the site, as it did with other sites. We included it in a two part series we did in 1986 called "The Eavesdropping War"--NBC having refused to kill the story, as requested by then-NSA director William Odom. Odom threatened legal action if we ran the piece. They are particularly concerned about Rosman. We determined that Rosman had several missions. One was intercepting communications from Soviet geosynchronous satellites, the Gorizont and Raduga. We were told interception had two values: 1. the satellites were used to communicate with Russian forces in Cuba and 2. they were also used to communicate with Soviet SS-20 sites in Europe...several of which were in East Germany. The farthest Raduga, as I recall, was at 14 degrees west, putting it in range of both Rosman and East Germany. It should be noted that Rosman is almost due north of the old Soviet headquarters in Lourdes, Cuba, southwest of Havana. Lourdes, of course, is also the largest satellite sigint base in the Russian equivalent of Echeon, which I just wrote about for msnbc.com. I was told that Rosman was used in part to capture signals being sent between Lourdes and the Soviet sigint downlink at Vatutinki outside Moscow. The other mission was intercepting signals from the agent satellite network the Soviet Union maintained to communicate with its agents worldwide. A crude version of Iridium, it contained eight satellites in low earth orbit. The property was ceded to the DoD from the General Services Administration in December 1980, at the close of the Carter administration, on the same day another smaller NASA site outside of London was turned over to DoD. At the end of the Cold War, with the signing of the INF Treaty and lessened tensions, it was shut down and some of its equipment sent to the NSA base in Sebana Seca, P.R. I hope this was helpful to you. If you need to call, give me a ring at 1-800-NBC-NEWS, ext. 7390.

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Nader wants global U.N. Net-regulation body; Nader photos
by Declan McCullagh 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

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Re: IP, forwarded posts, and copyright infringement
by Tom 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

> a friend of mine was an officer in the german army until very recently > (he decided to get a real job :) ) - give me 24 hours and I'll tell you > exactly what the past and current standard issue weapons are and what > kind of ammo they fire. current weapon (after the G3) is the G36, obviously an advanced G3 version. I didn't have much time to chat about the subject today, so if anyone wants to know ammo types, more details, whatever - ask and I'll find out. -- -- http://www.lemuria.org -- http://www.Nexus-Project.net -- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- -- http://www.lemuria.org -- http://www.Nexus-Project.net --

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by George＠Orwellian.Org 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

(via Wired) http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/15982.html # # German police in Napster child porn probe By: Linda Harrison # in New York Posted: 10/01/2001 at 21:14 GMT # # German police have launched a probe into whether Napster is being # used to swap child porn on the Net. # # The investigation will also delve into other online file-swapping # services such as Gnutella and MyNapster, and hopes to determine # whether users have stored illegal material on their computers. ---- [ugh, comic relief] http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/11/nyregion/11STAT.html # # January 11, 2001 [snipped; NYS sued for more education funds for NYC] # # The New York State will soon require every graduate to pass # college preparatory Regents exams in English, math, social studies # and science. # # The Court of Appeals had earlier defined New York's constitutional # right to a "sound basic education" as learning the competence # to vote and serve on a jury. # # The plaintiffs, the Campaign for Fiscal Equity, argued that new # Regents standards do include the cognitive skills to analyze # complex ballot propositions and weigh statistical and other # technical evidence in jury trials. # # But, the Campaign showed, the state does not appropriate enough # money to meet those standards. # # The state's witnesses, paradoxically, denied that the state's # own Regents standards were needed. # # After all, they said, jurors with trouble weighing complex # evidence can always ask other jurors for help. # # Voters with only eighth-grade literacy can make up their minds # by watching television advertisements. # # One state witness implied that New York City voters might be # constitutionally entitled to less education than others, because # the city has so many television outlets to inform the less # literate. Yabba-Dabba-Doo!

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