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FBI Goes After Bonsaikitten.com
by Jim Choate 09 Feb '01

09 Feb '01

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,41733,00.html -- ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Crypto McCarthyism ...thoughts, gentlemen?
by Aimee Farr 09 Feb '01

09 Feb '01

<snip> o What do you think about [1-2]? o Contemporary parallels? (use of crypto as an aggravating factor in punishment, etc.) o Finally, how could [3] come about in the context of crypto (and other digital freedoms)? <snip> ======================================================================= Electronic Journal of Sociology (1996) ISSN: 1176 7323 Cyber McCarthyism: Witch Hunts in the Living Room http://www.sociology.org/content/vol002.001/ling.html <snippage> [1] "This paper examines the potential for electronic communication to spark mass hate such as that seen in colonial Salem and during the McCarthy period." [2] "The elements which go into the development of mass hate include the following: 1) strains on the community through the recognition of a moral boundary crisis and identification of villains, 2) crystallizing of patterned labeling through a degradation ceremony, 3) appropriation of the social apparatus and suppression of critique mechanisms, 4) restoration of a normal situation." [3] "Finally, the fervour came under control. In both of these cases this occurred when the mass hate became a serious threat to the established power structure, members of the government in the case of colonial Salem and the Army in the case of McCarthyism." <end snippage> ======================================== Tim's comments for historical reference. ======================================== > "On the Internet, no one knows you're a bitch." ==================== And, from Declan... ==================== > Since the paper is so flawed, I'm not sure it's worth discussing at length. > But, briefly, is crypto as threatening as witches were? Far from it. It -- > and its derivative technologies, such as anonymity -- seems to be perceived > more as a way to reclaim lost privacy rather than a new and unusual threat. > In that sense, it is a conservative technology. (This could change, and > certainly the intelligence community is hand-waving about terrorists again, > but I doubt it'll have much luck.) > -Declan ======================== And this, from Choate.... ======================== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psychohistory/message/2810 ~Aimee

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Crypto McCarthyism ...thoughts, gentlemen?
by Aimee Farr 09 Feb '01

09 Feb '01

<snip> o What do you think about [1-2]? o Contemporary parallels? (use of crypto as an aggravating factor in punishment, etc.) o Finally, how could [3] come about in the context of crypto (and other digital freedoms)? <snip> ======================================================================= Electronic Journal of Sociology (1996) ISSN: 1176 7323 Cyber McCarthyism: Witch Hunts in the Living Room http://www.sociology.org/content/vol002.001/ling.html <snippage> [1] "This paper examines the potential for electronic communication to spark mass hate such as that seen in colonial Salem and during the McCarthy period." [2] "The elements which go into the development of mass hate include the following: 1) strains on the community through the recognition of a moral boundary crisis and identification of villains, 2) crystallizing of patterned labeling through a degradation ceremony, 3) appropriation of the social apparatus and suppression of critique mechanisms, 4) restoration of a normal situation." [3] "Finally, the fervour came under control. In both of these cases this occurred when the mass hate became a serious threat to the established power structure, members of the government in the case of colonial Salem and the Army in the case of McCarthyism." <end snippage> ======================================== Tim's comments for historical reference. ======================================== > "On the Internet, no one knows you're a bitch." ==================== And, from Declan... ==================== > Since the paper is so flawed, I'm not sure it's worth discussing at length. > But, briefly, is crypto as threatening as witches were? Far from it. It -- > and its derivative technologies, such as anonymity -- seems to be perceived > more as a way to reclaim lost privacy rather than a new and unusual threat. > In that sense, it is a conservative technology. (This could change, and > certainly the intelligence community is hand-waving about terrorists again, > but I doubt it'll have much luck.) > -Declan ======================== And this, from Choate.... ======================== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psychohistory/message/2810 ~Aimee

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(no subject)
by BOSSLION 09 Feb '01

09 Feb '01

I HAVE 2 LITTLE GRAND DAUGHTERS THAT HAVE BEEN MOLESTED BY THEIR STEP GRANDFATHER. THEY HAVE TALKED TO BY THE SHERIFFS DEPT. AND THEY WERE CONVINCED THAT THEY HAD BEEN SUBJECT TO ORAL SEX, BUT NOT ACTUALLY PENETRATED. THE DEPUTY SAID THE CASE WORKER WAS WALKING ON THIN ICE, AND IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT HOLD UP IN COURT BECAUSE THEY ARE ONLY FOUR AND FIVE YEARS OLD. WHEN I CALLED TO SEE IF THIS MAN HAD BEEN ARRESTED, THEY TOLD ME IT WAS NONE OF MY BUSINESS. I AM WILLING TO GO TO JAIL BEFORE LETTING THESE GIRLS GO BACK TO THIS SITUATION. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN DEVASTATED BY THIS. I CANT BEAR FOR THEM TO HAVE TO EVER HAVE TO SEE THIS PERSON AGAIN, BUT MY SON, THEIR FATHER DOES NOT HAVE CUSTODY. AT THE MOMENT HE HAS THEM, BUT THEIR MOTHER WILL NOT COMPLY WITH DFS SO THEY CAN GET COUNSELING. THE DFS HAS SENT THE MEDICAID CARDS SO THEY CAN GET THE COUNSELING, BUT SHE HAS TO SIGN THE CONSENT, AND SHE WONT. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE DOCTORS FOR AN EXAM, BECAUSE SHE ALSO WONT SIGN FOR THAT. THE LAWS OF THIS LAND ARE COMPLICATED, AND IM SURE THAT SOMEWHERE THE REASON FOR THIS CONSENT FROM THE MOTHER, IS APPROPRIATE, BUT AT THIS TIME, I AM FRUSTRATED THAT THEIR MOTHER AND HER NEW HUSBANDS FAMILY ARE ABLE TO MANIPULATE THE LAW . WE NEED TO PROTECT CHILDREN FROM ANYONE THAT IS NOT LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR BEST INTEREST. THESE ARE BRIGHT BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN, AND DESERVE TO HAVE A FUTURE, UNMOLESTED. CATHERINE M. HALL GRANDMOTHER BOSSLION @MSN.COM

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cyberterror hearing on cpsan right now
by Declan McCullagh 09 Feb '01

09 Feb '01

it's the fidel one i wrote about on wired.com today.

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dollars and cents
by meowno＠yahoo.com 09 Feb '01

09 Feb '01

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by nf033815＠mail.sitek.net 09 Feb '01

09 Feb '01

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FBI investigates bonsaikitten.com, sends subpoena to MIT
by Declan McCullagh 09 Feb '01

09 Feb '01

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Re: IW: Tools Stunt DoS Attacks
by Adam Back 09 Feb '01

09 Feb '01

This sounds like just a short term work-around, easily countered by the DoSers. Rather than fix the problem, they propose to try to detect "unusual activity" and block the IPs. I'm not sure what "trace" means either -- identify IPs and hunt down the perpetrators? It's predictable low tech approach to all net problems -- identify undesirable behavior, trace it, complain to ISPs, block it, form coallitions against the behavior with central clearing houses of people to block. Ultimately you can't distinguish between DDoS and popular content. They're just pushing the DDoS crowd to the next obvious and easy level -- bypass their fingerprinting of unusual behavior. They can't counter-escalate much futher because they'll start getting into false positives and rejecting legitimate traffic. Any robust long term solution to DDoS needs to defend against DDoS with Distributed Service. If content can be mirrored and cached reactively to traffic, mature versions of systems like FreeNet could be built to cope with DDoS. If requests are routed to local caches there is no longer a central server taking all the traffic, which is the basic problem these people are trying to kludge around. They might want to look at Hash Cash and Client Puzzles for systems which can't be easily distributed (web apps with central database needing to be updated). Adam > Roughly a year after cyber-terrorists paralyzed some of the Web's > most trafficked sites, technology is finally emerging to stop such > distributed denial-of-service attacks before they ever reach their > target sites. > > [...] > > To combat such attacks on routers, a new company called Arbor > Networks--funded by Cisco and Intel--this week will launch a managed > availability service that aims to detect, trace and block DoS > attacks. > > http://update.internetweek.com/cgi-bin4/flo?y=eCNx0Bd6gU0V30DDqD

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Black History Month - Save up to 20%
by Britannica Store 09 Feb '01

09 Feb '01

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