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How responsible is the vendor of a crypto-enabled product?
by Roy M. Silvernail 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

I got into an interesting conversation today. Here's the question: if a vendor rolls out a net-enabled product that features a crypto- secured interface, what kind of liability do they face if the interface security is breached? In particular, we were discussing machine controls and the recent incident where it was discovered that one manufacturer was fielding a GPIB control card with TCP/IP Ethernet and no security at all. If a net-connected and secured machine were hacked and death or personal injury resulted, does that make the manufacturer an accessory to manslaughter? Would having a provably good (or provably bad) security layer mitigate this? -- Roy M. Silvernail Proprietor, scytale.com roy(a)scytale.com

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by MRYNA & john 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

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The Register - Who owns the 'web'?
by Jim Choate 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

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15 Feb '01

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by Christian 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

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Re: Zimmerman and Hayden, sitting in a tree...
by Roy Silvernail 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

>CBS this morning was repeating a segment apparently >from last night's Sixty Minutes show, on the NSA, >PGP and /bin/laden. Saw it last night. s/Bin Laden/Goldstein/g would have run without error. >Quick, what was Zimmerman's answer when asked what he >thought about the bad guys being able to use PGP? Not sure how to react to that. I thought CBS was trying very hard to cast Phil in a bad light, and his answer was the only one he could have given that wouldn't have hit the cutting room floor. > Linux advocates should announce Windows XP > is the time to switch to Linux permanently. Concur. MICROS~1 is moving steadily toward a secured platform that gives them full control of what will and won't run. Were it up to them, there would be no third-party development. Ironic, considering third-party development has played such a large part in their rise to ubiquity. -- Roy M. Silvernail Proprietor, scytale.com roy(a)scytale.com

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The Register - 3G Encryption
by Jim Choate 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/16951.html -- ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Re: Taxes on hard drives
by Brent Mattis 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

I seriously doubt unbreakable snooping software will be made a legal requirement in the next few years. I mean, if you switch to say, BSD, who are they going to impose the task of adding features, like 'rights management' on? All i'm trying to say is its pretty easy to screw over any software gimmicks they come up with, but levying a fine against you when you by a computer? thats crap. And even if they impose a tax anyway, who is to stop them from imposing the dreaded "snooping software" later, under some different pretenses. alphabeta >From: Ray Dillinger Reply-To: cypherpunks(a)ssz.com CC: >cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net Subject: CDR: Re: Taxes on hard drives Date: Thu, >15 Feb 2001 09:23:08 -0800 (PST) > > > >On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Tim May wrote: > > >At 6:27 PM -0800 2/14/01, Ray Dillinger wrote: >> >>BTW; I don't >generally download music: I tried it and the sound >>quality of MP3 is >crap. I don't use windows; the engineering >>quality of the product is >crap. But I'd still rather pay taxes >>on hard drives than have snooping >software installed in Windows. >>See, given the choice, I'd rather have >taxes rather than snooping >>software accepted as "normal". -- At least for >now. > >A tax on a hard drive is a theft, a shake down. Rent-seeking. > >No argument here. That's absolutely true. All I'm saying is that I'd rather >be subject to theft (at predictable times and in predictable amounts) >rather than invasion and monitoring. It's not that one is good; it's just >slightly less annoying, inconvenient, and evil. > >The real solution, of course, is open-content music. > > >Why should someone who is not downloading music or images (or >whatever >it is the tax is allegedly meant to support) be taxed thusly? > >They shouldn't be. Now, do you *really* want the infrastructure in place >that would permit tax collectors to distinguish between those who are and >those who aren't? Didn't think so. > > >Should paper be taxed so as to support writers? > >Interesting analogy. I hope someone uses it in court. > > >As to your preference for a tax on hard drives over snooping software >in >Windows, the solution is to to not use products with such snooping > >features. Or to find ways to cripple the functionality (as was done >with >the barcode scanner giveaway of several months back). > >Get real. If they put snooping software in windows, it will be accepted as >"normal" within a few years, and the leap is short from there to "legal >requirement". I don't want the "legal requirement", and I'm willing to pay >money (extortion money if you think about it, but what the hell, that's >nothing new where governments are involved) to avoid it. > > >The "tax" approach is attractive to the thugs for the obvious >reasons: >more opportunities to shake down the proles and collect a >percentage for >themselves. > >Yep. No argument there; all that means is that in the fight to keep >snooping software out of operating systems, political greed is one of the >weapons that's on our side. What's your point? > > >Bear > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Possibilities Of Atom Optics Border On The Fantastic
by Harry Bartholomew 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

Quantum computing, quantum cryptography and atom lithography are other possible technologies that depend on reaching a deeper theoretical understanding of the fundamental physics that governs how ultra cold atoms behave. http://unisci.com/stories/20011/0215016.htm

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