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Re: your mail
by Jim Choate 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

I'd plead the 5th. ____________________________________________________________________ Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. Locke The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, London, Robb wrote: > Attorney General Ashcroft personally approved your subpoena, and that of another reporter who published admissions by James Dalton Bell. > > The Government is not seeking any source material, notes, or other unpublished material from you by virtue of this subpoena. The limited purpose of the subpoena is to have you review two of your published articles, acknowledge your authorship, review several of the statements which you attributed to Bell in your articles, and have you verify that he in fact told you those things. That's all. We're only interested in having you testify about statements of his that you published. If your subpoena could have been avoided, it would have been. Unfortunately, the Federal Rules of Evidence do not permit a news article to be admitted into evidence for these purposes unless the person who wrote it can attest to its authorship and the accuracy of its content. This must be done in open court, at trial, and cannot be accomplished by affidavit, unless the defendant is willing to stipulate that your appearance can be avoided and that your articles can be admitted into evidence wit! hout your appearance as a foundation witness. Mr. Bell is not interested in any such stipulations. I regret any inconvenience that a trip to Tacoma may cause. > > I am extremely sensitive to the intrusiveness of any subpoena and the potential negative impact that press subpoenas can have on the news gathering function. The subpoena that has been served on you, is, in my experience, as minimally intrusive as any such subpoena can be. > > Robb London > Assistant United States Attorney > Western District of Washington >

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09 Mar '01

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Here is the information you had requested on low cost International Long Distance
by Terry Sullivan 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

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Re: DoJ and Cypherpunks...
by axlotl＠hushmail.com 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

>It was a polite and reasonable post. I think it's cool that he did >that, and what he said makes sense. Now I guess I'm an assistant >attorney apologist apologist.... While the message used polite words, its implications and usage was not polite, especially in the context of threats made to Adam Ciralsky, a 60 Minutes reporter re a subpoena for his notes if the reporter continued to ask questions about the upcoming trial, and especially not in its implications for other cypherpunks who might be interested in talking to the press - or on the list - regarding CJ, JB, or AP. (see <http://cryptome.org/jdb- doj-cbs.htm>) The message is clear - if you monkey around with this stuff, expect to be dragged across the country a few times on short notice, threatened with perjury or other charges, and otherwise intimidated and inconvenienced until you stop thinking and talking about feds who get promotions and publicity by prosecuting an itinerant musician/author living out of his pickup truck and a 40-year old man who still lives with his parents and plays with stink bombs.

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Slashdot | NSA Linux In Depth
by Jim Choate 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/03/09/1810249.shtml -- The Laws of Serendipity: 1. In order to discover anything, you must be looking for something. 2. If you wish to make an improved product, you must first be engaged in making an inferior one. Tivoli Certification Group, OSCT James Choate jchoate(a)tivoli.com Senior Engineer 512-436-1062

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Antigen found W32/Hybris-B virus
by ANTIGEN_BAMBI 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

Antigen for Exchange found joke.exe infected with W32/Hybris-B virus. The file is currently Deleted. The message, "CDR: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!", was sent from Hahaha and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound located at Cognex/Natick/BAMBI.

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SF Bay Area Cypherpunks March 2001 Physical MeetingAnnouncement
by Bill Stewart home email 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

(Not sure if this got to the meetingpunks or cypherpunks lists; sorry if it's a duplicate.) See http://cryptorights.org/cypherpunks/meetingpunks.html for SF, Toronto, & Bangalore Cypherpunks announcements. SF Bay Area Cypherpunks March 2001 Physical Meeting Announcement General Info: DATE: Saturday 8 March 2001 TIME: 12:00 - 5:30 PM (Pacific Time) PLACE: Alpine Inn (aka Alpine Beer Garden) 3915 Alpine Road, Portola Valley, CA 94028 USA Agenda "Our agenda is a widely-held secret." At Noon, we mill around for a bit: the organized program begins about 1:00 pm. As usual, this is an Open Meeting on US Soil, and everyone's invited. TECHNICAL TRACK .xxx domains and a W-Washington update -- Declan McCullagh Declan will hold forth on his recent work opposing the creation of a .xxx top-level domain. Also, he'll give an update on what 'W' seems to be up to in Washington, vis a vis export, network security, e-commerce, and anything else we can convince him to talk about. PKCS #11 application development: Project 'Minow' -- Rodney Thayer Rodney will talk about his recent adventures in the world of PKCS #11 tokens. He's been developing a set of tools to work with various kinds of key storage devices, including the iButton. POLICY TRACK Open discussion on TLD's, new.net, etc. CONFERENCE TRACK: Our brethern and sistern are off in snowy Boston freezing there encrypted key material off. We'll have an update next time, hopefully. NOTE NOTE NOTE: Next month's meeting will be the Saturday BEFORE the RSA Conference, the 7th, that's the FIRST Saturday of the month, following the canonical standard nonstandard algorithm change for RSA Conference month. Location Alpine Inn, Portola Valley Just behind Palo Alto toward the ocean. Take the Alpine Road exit off 280 heading away from the flatlands for a few miles until you see Arastradero Rd on your left - and it's right on that corner. For lo these many moons - the flotsam, jetsam, bikers, movers, shakers, VC's and horsemen of the Bay Area have mooted at this historic location. Many a standard (ISO, ANSI, IEEE, RFC, et al) has been hammered out there on the carved up tabletops - lubricated by burgers and beer. We meet at the tables out the back door and to the right. (In case that wasn't clear, it's a BEER GARDEN. Has food too -- burgers, etc.) Location Maps: http://yp9.superpages.com/listings.phtml?SRC=&STYPE=S&PG=L&R=N&C=&N=alpine+… If you have questions, comments or last-minute agenda requests, please contact the meeting organizer/victim: Rodney Thayer rodney(a)tillerman.to +1 408 757 9693

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Re: [A question of magnitude?]
by LUIS VILDOSOLA 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

A world government will be as great an aberration as the reasons brought forward for it's existence. Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> wrote: > > > What will happen when Japan collapses from economic ruin, Britian > collapses because of a biological disaster, China has a revolution based > on democracy, religion, and economic ruin from increased military budgets, > The US faces a rash of violent civil disobedience coupled with massive > economic slowdowns, and the EU collapses because of increased internal > strife? > > It may not take 20 years... > > Now who votes for a single world government? > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. > > Locke > > The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate > Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com > www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 > -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

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by London, Robb 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

Attorney General Ashcroft personally approved your subpoena, and that of another reporter who published admissions by James Dalton Bell. The Government is not seeking any source material, notes, or other unpublished material from you by virtue of this subpoena. The limited purpose of the subpoena is to have you review two of your published articles, acknowledge your authorship, review several of the statements which you attributed to Bell in your articles, and have you verify that he in fact told you those things. That's all. We're only interested in having you testify about statements of his that you published. If your subpoena could have been avoided, it would have been. Unfortunately, the Federal Rules of Evidence do not permit a news article to be admitted into evidence for these purposes unless the person who wrote it can attest to its authorship and the accuracy of its content. This must be done in open court, at trial, and cannot be accomplished by affidavit, unless the defendant is willing to stipulate that your appearance can be avoided and that your articles can be admitted into evidence witho! ut your appearance as a foundation witness. Mr. Bell is not interested in any such stipulations. I regret any inconvenience that a trip to Tacoma may cause. I am extremely sensitive to the intrusiveness of any subpoena and the potential negative impact that press subpoenas can have on the news gathering function. The subpoena that has been served on you, is, in my experience, as minimally intrusive as any such subpoena can be. Robb London Assistant United States Attorney Western District of Washington

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Globalization turncoat spooks wanted in EU
by Blank Frank 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

Swedish secret service seeks informers: chief http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews/message/14488 From: C-afp(a)clari.net (AFP) news:clari.world.europe.northern Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 8:50:15 PST STOCKHOLM, March 7 (AFP) - The Swedish secret service is trying to recruit informants among anti-globalisation activists in a bid to spare EU meetings this spring from the kind of protest violence that marred top-level gatherings in Seattle and Prague, media reported Wednesday. Spy-master Jan Danielsson, head of the SAEPO secret service, said the agency was looking for members of anti-globalisation groups to feed police with inside information on planned protests at several EU meetings to be held in Sweden. "It helps to have a source inside organisations in which SAEPO is interested," he was quoted by newspapers as saying earlier on television. "All secret services work this way. SAEPO has always done it. We are trying to recruit people who we think will give us information." Sweden, which currently holds the rotating EU presidency, is scheduled to host a number of top-level meetings this year. These include two EU summits as well as other meetings of finance ministers, foreign ministers and agriculture ministers. SAEPO has invited militants from the Greens environmental party and the Attac association, which promotes a tax on financial speculation to aid those in need, to provide information on their groups' plans. Political movements such as "No to the EU" -- which groups around 30 eurosceptic organisations -- and the former communist Left Party have said they will stage "critical seminars" on the sidelines of the EU meetings. Anti-globalisation protests have already managed to disrupt gatherings such as the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, the EU summit in Nice, France, and the December 1999 global finance and trade meetings in Seattle, Washington. Copyright 2001 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet)

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