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by Tonya＠cyberpass.net 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

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AP is *not* the point
by Blank Frank 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

At 05:20 PM 3/31/01 -0500, Seth Finkelstein wrote: >Tim May wrote: >> them. I now understand why Jim Bell is advocating the >> assassination-by-lottery of judges and prosecutors. Fuck the State, >> Man!" Um, he's not *advocating*. He pointed out that such systems were inevitable. He was pointing to a primitive culture that had just discovered metal smelting and gunpowder and remarked that the the petty feudal barons who intimidated the sheeple with swords and horses were going to see interesting times. >views, I'd say it's extremely useful to understand those views of yours. >The number of times you, personally, have talked about who "needs killing", >is amazing. In fact, "needs killing" is virtually a running joke. "Reminds me of when a sociologist was interviewing a southern farmer: Why do you think the murder rate is higher in the south? I guess more southerners need killin'." (as told by Aaron Evans) A primer on Rand and initiation of force for a jury of proles? Hoo hah. > Thus my take on some of this, is that there's an aspect of >"It's all fun and games, until someone's eye gets put out" (or someone >takes it too far, and gets arrested). Most of us would say that stink bombing the IRS (which got Mr B noticed) was inappropriate. Or at least inadequately covert, as he got caught. Some would even call for something more brisant or acetylcholinesterase inhibiting than a stink bomb. Whatever. JB's troubles aren''t about AP except that it sounds scary. Maybe the stinkbomb was a publicity stunt for AP. >. Does that mean you, or anyone else, are >responsible for what Jim Bell did? Its possible that even Jim Bell wasn't responsible for his actions, which might have been a good defense once, but folks don't like to consider themselves (in the words of Teddy K.) "sickies". > As to "Assassination Politics", many people get way too >focused on the technical details in relation to the case. > If Bell's overall actions are examined, it look a lot like he's soliciting >murder of Federal agents. Maybe his implementation wouldn't be >anonymous, and wouldn't pay off. Hypothetically, trying to soliciting >murder anonymously and failing, and not paying, aren't mitigating to >the crime involved. He hasn't set up a site. He wrote a whitepaper, a technical report. IIRC someone else (Toto?) set up an inert mock site. > I suppose, given the tenor of the times, I should state that >I've never met Jim Bell, never had any contact with him (personal or #include <std_cypherpunk_disclaimer.h>

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by �� 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

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Re: "Educating" the Court about Cypherpunks
by Public <Anonymous_Account> 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

>Frankly, the more the court, or any of its officers, knows about the >CP ideology, the less sympathetic and useful they will be. This is true. Today there are very few collections of individuals that oppose government in general and that have more than 1% of intelligent, coherent, technologically savvy members. Cypherpunk MOVEMENT is one of those, and it is dangerous to the government, for the good reason. Come to think of it, I cannot recall any other MOVEMENT that comes even close to cypherpunks. Most clans that deal with arms ... I mean technology ... are mostly gadgeteers or plain cults. Cypherpunks (at least 2% of them) have a clear agenda and expertise to achieve it. Very dangerous, as we are finding out.

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Slashdot | CPUC Tells Northpoint To Restart Network
by Jim Choate 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/03/31/2058204.shtml -- ____________________________________________________________________ Beware gentle knight, there is no greater monster than reason. Miguel de Cervantes The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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ecash tech layoffs
by Declan McCullagh 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

http://www.localbusiness.com/City/0,1123,SEA,00.html EXCLUSIVE BOTHELL, Wash., Mar. 29 (LocalBusiness.com) -- ECash Technologies Inc. has cut its workforce from 65 to 40 due to a "narrowing" of its business, John Filby, president and CEO for eCash, told LocalBusiness.com today.

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RE: Face Recognition Technolgy Is Next - Big Brother Arrives
by Jonathan Wienke 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What about Islam? - -----Original Message----- From: Steve Schear [mailto:schear@lvcm.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:30 PM To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net Subject: Re: Face Recognition Technolgy Is Next - Big Brother Arrives At 09:09 PM 3/29/01 -0600, you wrote: >http://www.sightings.com/politics6/dwbb.htm There have been a few discussions on this list of possible means for defeating such systems operating in public places. I recall suggesting a new religion, whose worshipers are encouraged to appear with veils and masks, might make an interesting legal challenge to anti-mask laws in effect. steve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBOsQU7Bj6oMyeDxZoEQJnxwCg/2OgeNkVGowR/t0py95YmZx03W8AoIGa uybx4PU/BUVsYW9NMMBNT54s =nOwa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[INCIDENTS] smtp DDoS just stopped. (fwd)
by J.A. Terranson 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

Not exactly on topic, but since ZKS is frequently under discussion here, I thought some of you might be interested... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:04:55 -0500 From: Sebastien Berube <sberube(a)ZEROKNOWLEDGE.COM> To: INCIDENTS(a)SECURITYFOCUS.COM Subject: [INCIDENTS] smtp DDoS just stopped. I would just like to inform everybody our organisation just went under a heavy smtp DoS. The symptoms where thousands of connections established from at first the same source to the smtp port of one of our MX. Once we've started blocking this particular IP address, the connections started comming from a different address. And so on for about 3 hours. I had to write a quick and dirty connection tracker to determine if each source IP had more than 15 connections. If it did, I'd block them. What we where able to deterimne is that every host that was used to DoS us where Windows based machines. All of these hosts where running IIS4 or IIS5. We also where able to notice that the hosts used for the attack where being used in alphabetical order of their domain name as we blocked them. Regards. -- Sebastien Berube Unix Systems Administrator sberube(a)zeroknowledge.com

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Binary Black Hole Grand Challenge - What is LIGO?
by Jim Choate 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

http://wwwrel.ph.utexas.edu/Center/GC/page1.html -- ____________________________________________________________________ Beware gentle knight, there is no greater monster than reason. Miguel de Cervantes The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: update.532 [Black Hole Computing]
by Bill Stewart 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

That was very interesting. Kind of reminds me of Cypherpunks Semi-Arch-Nemesis David Brin's "Earth", where people messing around with small black hole creation cause the risk of Bad Things happening. In practice, we're less likely to see black hole computers developed than Nanotech Grey Goo computers, At 01:41 PM 03/31/2001 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >PROGRAMMABLE BLACK HOLE COMPUTERS. One usually >thinks of a black hole as an omnivorous object swallowing energy >and spitting some of it back in the form of Hawking evaporation >radiation, consisting of particles created in pairs out of the vacuum >near the edge of the black hole. In principle, a tiny black hole can >be formed in a way that encodes instructions for performing >calculations. Correspondingly, the answers could be read out from >the escaping Hawking radiation. Why use a black hole at all? >.... >of detecting gravity waves with LIGO and other interferometric Does "LIGO" stand for "Light In, Garbage Out"? :-)

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