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DUI Speaking Book
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Is the content of the book available somewhere? Copyright notwithstanding? It's mostly academic since I don't drive schnockered but don't the consequences of refusal to take a field test vary from state to state? I always had the (possibly mistaken) impression in NY that refusal = guilty or at least hauled off to hospital for a blood test. I've no idea what things are like in CA. I like the part about staying in the car and not opening the window so he can't stick his sniffer flashlight in your face. Does that vary from state to state also? I guess the bottom line is that I resent the unconstitutional (fascist supreme court decisions aside) roadblocks and loosening of the 4th for automobile searches and preferred the old days when erratic driving was the prerequisite for a stop. Not that that couldn't be created out of whole cloth too but at least the wholesale stopping was not the norm. Mike

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27 Jun '01

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Forwarded article: DUI kit puts lawyer in glove compartment
by lzkoch＠mediaone.net 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

The following article was selected from the Internet Edition of the Chicago Tribune. To visit the site, point your browser to http://chicagotribune.com/. ----------- Chicago Tribune Article Forwarding---------------- ---Forwarded article---------------- DUI kit puts lawyer in glove compartment By Ted Gregory The latest thorn in the side of law enforcement efforts to curb drunken driving comes in a passport-sized booklet. And it talks. "Officer, please understand that I will only exit the vehicle for your safety or if under arrest," the automated male voice announces when a button on the cover is pushed. "Please read the enclosed for additional information." That is the 10-second essence of what police officers are calling "the black box." Its commercial name is Ramsell's Roadside Rights, named for Don Ramsell, the Wheaton attorney who believes police run roughshod over motorists and wants them to be prepared when stopped for driving while intoxicated. Available for $99.95 and marketed via the Internet, the kit instructs the driver to roll down the window just enough to slip a driver's license and insurance card to the officer, put the booklet's speaker to the window opening and press the button. The driver then should hand the officer a card that includes a refusal to answer any questions without an attorney present or to submit to sobriety tests. The recording and the card are intended to prevent the officer from getting too close to observe the driver's behavior or obtain any evidence that can be used against the driver if arrested and charged with DUI. And without observations, and more importantly, results from a field sobriety test and Breathalyzer, conviction is difficult. That's why Roselle Police Detective John Lawson dislikes the kits. He said he sees them as likely boosting the number of drivers who refuse sobriety tests, which possibly could mean more drunken motorists on the road. Lawson wants to strengthen DUI laws in Illinois by giving motorists a reason to think twice before refusing sobriety tests. Now, both field tests and Breathalyzers can be refused without consequence. For five years, Lawson has lead a coalition that includes the city of Chicago, Gov. George Ryan and the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police to push for a law that would require an Illinois secretary of state hearing if a motorist refuses a field sobriety test. If the hearing officer determines that the officer was correct in seeking the sobriety test, the driver would lose his or her license for six months. Ramsell has been aggressively defending those charged with DUI for 15 years. He has been arrested twice on suspicion of DUI and acquitted both times. "There's a lack of trust going on the streets," he said. "There's a bit of the sentiment that it's time to take back the streets." Hundreds of the kits have been sold, said Ramsell, president-elect of the DuPage County Bar Association. He wants to make money on the kits, but he also is fighting against what he sees as anti-DUI efforts that are too aggressive. "A, police stretch the truth in DUI cases," Ramsell said. "B, the field sobriety tests they give is junk science. C, the Constitution is alive and well. Use it. And, D, This actually levels the playing field." Illinois State Police report that the number of motorists who refused to take field sobriety tests last year rose to 2,445, about one in three. That is a 62 percent jump from 1997 figures when 17.7 percent of motorists stopped on suspicion of DUI refused sobriety tests. In the one court case where the kit was used, a McHenry County jury in February acquitted the driver after noting too many discrepancies in police officers' recollection of the arrest. "The book that he had didn't really have an effect," foreman John Prushinski, of Wonder Lake, said of motorist Colin Darling, 48, of Crystal Lake. "The police's credibility just wasn't there." Ramsell concedes the kit has angered law enforcement officials and prosecutors across the state. He is undaunted. "Why would I care if it ties the hands of police?" Ramsell said. "I don't want it to come off that I don't like cops but ... they work for the people. If this creates a little discussion about how we have gone too far, it's probably serving its greatest purpose." ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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Forwarded article: DUI kit puts lawyer in glove compartment
by lzkoch＠mediaone.net 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

The following article was selected from the Internet Edition of the Chicago Tribune. To visit the site, point your browser to http://chicagotribune.com/. ----------- Chicago Tribune Article Forwarding---------------- ---Forwarded article---------------- DUI kit puts lawyer in glove compartment By Ted Gregory The latest thorn in the side of law enforcement efforts to curb drunken driving comes in a passport-sized booklet. And it talks. "Officer, please understand that I will only exit the vehicle for your safety or if under arrest," the automated male voice announces when a button on the cover is pushed. "Please read the enclosed for additional information." That is the 10-second essence of what police officers are calling "the black box." Its commercial name is Ramsell's Roadside Rights, named for Don Ramsell, the Wheaton attorney who believes police run roughshod over motorists and wants them to be prepared when stopped for driving while intoxicated. Available for $99.95 and marketed via the Internet, the kit instructs the driver to roll down the window just enough to slip a driver's license and insurance card to the officer, put the booklet's speaker to the window opening and press the button. The driver then should hand the officer a card that includes a refusal to answer any questions without an attorney present or to submit to sobriety tests. The recording and the card are intended to prevent the officer from getting too close to observe the driver's behavior or obtain any evidence that can be used against the driver if arrested and charged with DUI. And without observations, and more importantly, results from a field sobriety test and Breathalyzer, conviction is difficult. That's why Roselle Police Detective John Lawson dislikes the kits. He said he sees them as likely boosting the number of drivers who refuse sobriety tests, which possibly could mean more drunken motorists on the road. Lawson wants to strengthen DUI laws in Illinois by giving motorists a reason to think twice before refusing sobriety tests. Now, both field tests and Breathalyzers can be refused without consequence. For five years, Lawson has lead a coalition that includes the city of Chicago, Gov. George Ryan and the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police to push for a law that would require an Illinois secretary of state hearing if a motorist refuses a field sobriety test. If the hearing officer determines that the officer was correct in seeking the sobriety test, the driver would lose his or her license for six months. Ramsell has been aggressively defending those charged with DUI for 15 years. He has been arrested twice on suspicion of DUI and acquitted both times. "There's a lack of trust going on the streets," he said. "There's a bit of the sentiment that it's time to take back the streets." Hundreds of the kits have been sold, said Ramsell, president-elect of the DuPage County Bar Association. He wants to make money on the kits, but he also is fighting against what he sees as anti-DUI efforts that are too aggressive. "A, police stretch the truth in DUI cases," Ramsell said. "B, the field sobriety tests they give is junk science. C, the Constitution is alive and well. Use it. And, D, This actually levels the playing field." Illinois State Police report that the number of motorists who refused to take field sobriety tests last year rose to 2,445, about one in three. That is a 62 percent jump from 1997 figures when 17.7 percent of motorists stopped on suspicion of DUI refused sobriety tests. In the one court case where the kit was used, a McHenry County jury in February acquitted the driver after noting too many discrepancies in police officers' recollection of the arrest. "The book that he had didn't really have an effect," foreman John Prushinski, of Wonder Lake, said of motorist Colin Darling, 48, of Crystal Lake. "The police's credibility just wasn't there." Ramsell concedes the kit has angered law enforcement officials and prosecutors across the state. He is undaunted. "Why would I care if it ties the hands of police?" Ramsell said. "I don't want it to come off that I don't like cops but ... they work for the people. If this creates a little discussion about how we have gone too far, it's probably serving its greatest purpose." ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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Copyright ruling may create memory hole...
by Jim Choate 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/06/27/1419200.shtml James Choate Product Certification - Operating Systems Staff Engineer 512-436-1062 jchoate(a)tivoli.com

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by selfhelpgroup 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

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by selfhelpgroup 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

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by selfhelpgroup 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

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DUI kit puts lawyer in glove compartment
by Matthew Gaylor 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

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new world order: lots of impotent noise
by John Doe #N 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

This kind of eurocrap does keep the militia alert against infringements of our sovereignty.. essentially this is political hoof-in-mouth disease... Wednesday June 27 6:47 AM ET World Court Favors Germany Over U.S. THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) - The World Court ruled in favor of Germany in a case involving the U.S. execution of two German brothers in 1999, saying the United States violated international law when it failed to grant consular rights to Germans. In a landmark ruling Wednesday, the court also pronounced that its provisional orders to national courts were legally binding, criticizing the U.S. state of Arizona for ignoring the World Court's order to delay the execution of one of the brothers. Brothers Karl and Walter LaGrand were executed in Tucson for the 1982 murder of a 63-year-old bank manager during a botched robbery. Germany took the United States to court, claiming the brothers had been denied representation by the German consulate that might have saved their lives. In doing so, Germany argued, the United States violated the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. The verdict is binding and not subject to appeal, however the World Court has no independent means to enforce compliance.

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