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Re: why roasting Condit's weenie is delicious -watching the watchers
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

Gee who would've guessed he'd be a hypocrite? It never ceases to amaze me how the religions and their followers have convinced themselves and plenty of others that religion is the source of ethical thought, that they are the originators and keepers of the principles that arguably help people live together in groups. They're mere adopters and plagiarists and not for altruistic purposes either. > >from >http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/iprs/20010711/cm/ten_commandments_sponsor_find…>tml > > >Clearly Condit was declaiming against his own demons when he >co-sponsored legislation calling for displaying the Ten Commandments in >public buildings. How easy it is to forget the admonishment against >adultery >when it is not prominently posted at every turn in the Capitol. > >The argument typically advanced in support of the government's dabbling >in >religion is that the constitutional mandate of a separation of church >and state >erodes the power of religious truths and leads inevitably to a liberal, >secular >and amoral society. > >How then is one to explain Condit, who has been an evangelical Christian >all >his life? There's nothing liberal or secular about him. He's a strong >pro-life, >family values, Bible-quoting son of a Baptist minister who is rated >highly by >the Christian Coalition and flunks out with the ACLU. > >... >No more pearly white smile for photogs but the power haircut will look >good when he >does the perp walk in orange. >

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Pocket Wang Watch
by George＠Orwellian.Org 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

Apparently the Wisconsin Supreme Court (that's one of our states, right?) just ruled a man convicted of failure to pay child support justly has less rights than unconvicted people: if he has any more children they will jail him. ---- How much is an NYPD plunger up the ass worth? $9 million dollars. Plug me. ---- Subject: Re: Dropping out of the USA Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:26:15 -0700 From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> # # In any case, it's absurd to think one would # move to Russia to escape the problems of the U.S. Didn't you post that it was when you saw billboards in the area where you lived in Spanish that you knew it was time to move? http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,27126,00.html Jun 13 2001 Recently, Angelina Jolie admitted she couldn't stop thinking about sex, and loves it when men look at her.

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Eye stress ! or Stress eye !
by marketing＠eyeclearing.com 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

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Creator of PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) To Speak in San Francisco
by john galt 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

Phil Zimmermann, Creator of PGP (Pretty Good Privacy), and Leader in the OpenPGP Alliance, To Speak in San Francisco WHEN: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:30pm-8:30pm WHERE: ServOn 650 Townsend, Suite 252, San Francisco, CA; At the corner of 8th St. & Townsend St. Philip R. Zimmermann is the creator of Pretty Good Privacy. For that, he was the target of a three-year criminal investigation, because the government held that US export restrictions for cryptographic software were violated when PGP spread all around the world following its 1991 publication as freeware. Despite the lack of funding, the lack of any paid staff, the lack of a company to stand behind it, and despite government persecution, PGP nonetheless became the most widely used email encryption software in the world. After the government dropped its case in early 1996, Zimmermann founded PGP Inc. That company was acquired by Network Associates Inc (NAI) in December 1997, where he stayed on for three years as Senior Fellow. Zimmermann currently serves as Chief Cryptographer at Hush Communications, and is also consulting with a number of companies and industry organizations on matters cryptographic. BACKGROUND ON THIS EVENT: Over the past few years, the dot-com frenzy has created thousands of websites which together handle over billions of dollars in commerce each month. Now that growth-at-any-cost is over, what are the best strategies to protect what we've built? In the past twelve months, several of the top websites have been shut down, including Yahoo, Amazon, and eBay. Thieves stole 15,700 credit-card and debit-card numbers from a Western Union web site last fall. The FBI broke up a Russian theft ring that gained illegal access to 40 banks and e-commerce sites in 10 states by exploiting a well-known Windows NT vulnerability. Over a thousand web sites were defaced with expletives by a Chinese worm in the past two months. Most internet thefts and break-ins are never even reported in the media, because the victims are afraid of negative publicity. Security is an important piece of almost every web application delivered. Over the next few months, Software Developement Forum (http://www.sdforum.org) will be bringing in leading experts in many aspects of Internet Security and Privacy. They will explain which threats you should pay attention to first, and how to reduce risk. The non-profit Software Development Forum (SDForum) is the premiere Silicon Valley organization connecting software professionals, entrepreneurs, venture capitalists, industry experts and major technology companies. With a 10,000-person reach, 2000 individual members and 20-30 events each month, SDForum is a source of information, education and connection for people in Silicon Valley. MORE DETAILS AGENDA: 6:30-7:00pm registration/networking/pizza/refreshments (please arrive before 7:00 PM) 7:00-8:30pm presentation and discussion GETTING THERE: By car: Easy (for the city) street parking. Paid parking is available on the roof. By monoplized transit: Civic Center BART startion. Take the 19 bus, south on 8th street to the corner of Townsend and 8th street and you will be at the entrance of the building. You can walk from the BART station - it's a 6 block walk south. You may wait longer for the bus than it takes to walk. COST: $10 for non-SDForum Members No charge for SDForum members and students with ID To register for this event: https://www.123signup9.com/Member?PG=1854182300&P=185419116244800 If you would like to be a speaker at a security future event, or you know of someown who would, pleae reply to this message with 'speaker proposal' in the subject of the message. Much of this info is repeated here: http://www.sdforum.org/p/calEvent.asp?CID=429&mo=7&yr=2001 ApexMail now registers domains! www.apexmail.com

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screen name
by Harry Tod 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

Please send me the name I used as a screen name, in my July 2,2001 registration, thank you, Harry Tod

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Re: Taxifornia becomes interplanetary menace (fwd)
by Ray Dillinger 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Eugene Leitl wrote: <clip> >L.A. May Be Shot Down in Bid to Tax Satellites >By Dan Whitcomb <clip> >Auerbach insisted that he was not pushing for a tax on the satellites but >was simply doing his job and trying to determine whether they should be >taxed. > >``I'm neutral on the whole thing,'' he said. ``My job is to make sure all >property that's taxable gets assessed and I'm going to follow the law. If >the law says its not taxable it's not taxable. If it is taxable I will >assess it.'' Just imagine what things would be like if assessors were paid on commission. Tax Farming, anyone? Bear

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Re: freq meter vs. spectrum analyzer for sweeping
by A. Melon 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

bob said: >You need a spectrum analyzer, which shows you signal strength vs. >frequency. > >And you need to worry about intermittent ('burst') bugs. > >And WTF is an 'infinity' transmitter? Umm, all the stuff being sold for counter surveillance are frequency counters of one sort or another. Infinity transmitter? I guess you don't know much about bugs if you don't know that -- try a web search on the term.

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why roasting Condit's weenie is delicious -watching the watchers
by Dynamite Bob 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

from http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/iprs/20010711/cm/ten_commandments_sponsor_find… Clearly Condit was declaiming against his own demons when he co-sponsored legislation calling for displaying the Ten Commandments in public buildings. How easy it is to forget the admonishment against adultery when it is not prominently posted at every turn in the Capitol. The argument typically advanced in support of the government's dabbling in religion is that the constitutional mandate of a separation of church and state erodes the power of religious truths and leads inevitably to a liberal, secular and amoral society. How then is one to explain Condit, who has been an evangelical Christian all his life? There's nothing liberal or secular about him. He's a strong pro-life, family values, Bible-quoting son of a Baptist minister who is rated highly by the Christian Coalition and flunks out with the ACLU. ... No more pearly white smile for photogs but the power haircut will look good when he does the perp walk in orange.

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11 Jul '01

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Dropping out of the USA
by A. Melon 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

Well, this is not exactly on topic to any ongoing thread, but its something I'd like to get a few opinions on. It seems that while science is moving ahead at a such a rate that I'm constantly amazed to see science fiction becoming science fact, at the same time we're seeing more political(?)-fiction(nightmares?) becoming fact as well in the form of government censorship and persecution. As I'm not exactly excited about the prospect of being shot or winding up in jail indefinitely for 'political crimes', it seems the best options are to simply leave the country altogether or forget about the personal freedoms granted by the constitution. So my question is: where to go? I certainly don't want to leave behind all the neat toys in the US like widespread broadband internet access, massive bookstores, high paying tech jobs, etc. Is there any country that has the same technological benefits as the US without the government steadily encroaching into every sector of life? How does one 'drop out' of the US and keep all the good things one has become accustomed to? "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." - Thomas Jefferson

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