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by 1support＠microsoft.com 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

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cryptography license negotiation
by Gregory M Pomerantz 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

I am working on negotiating a licensing agreement for a large piece of software that contains a cryptographic component. I am trying to negotiate a warranty term that favors us in the event that the algorithm or implementation should prove insecure. Ideally I would like 1) disclosure of the algorithm and 2) a representation that cryptographic experts consider the algorithm is considered secure or at least appropriate to the use being made of it. Has anybody ever negotiated something like this with a software vendor? Can anyone produce sample language from a licensing agreement? Is there a better place I can ask this question? ("get a lawyer" is not a helpful response. IAAL). Thanks for your help gmp

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Re: Re: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washing tonpost.com)
by Jim Choate 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

Tomorrow's Soldier David Alexander ISBN 0-380-79502-7 Chpt. 8 "War Beyond Tomorrow" On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Trei, Peter wrote: > It may not be that easy. My understanding (based on various TV programs > broadcast back in the early 90's) is that there is a program called 'NEST', > which stands for something like Nuclear Emergency (mumble) Team, > tasked with dealing with this type of problem. > > One protection hinted is that strategically chosen points of transit > (bridges, > ports, tunnels, major highways, mail, baggage and freight facilities, etc) > have > detectors for nuclear materials. > > The thing is, while you can sheild a source to the point where it is not > a hazard, sheilding it to the point of *undetectability* is far harder task. > > If you detect even a single gamma ray of a certain frequency, or > betas or even alphas of certain energies, you *know* that a certain > isotope produced them. If the detectors note the presence of a > certain isotopes, they generate the appropriate alarms. > > There are also other detection systems - I've seen X-rays of entire > container trucks which were passing through the Chunnel - illegal > immigrants were quite visible inside the container. > > An attacker's best chance would be to place his weapon in a > container, heavily sheilded, and then to bury that in the middle of > a stack of other containers of heavy shielding in the hold of a > container ship, and plan to detonate it while still on board in a > target harbor. > > UPS probably would not work (besides, I think they have a > limit of around 90 lbs). -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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FBI SirCammed (fwd)
by Jim Choate 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:21:35 -0400 From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> To: Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs(a)philodox.com>, dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu, cryptography(a)wasabisystems.com Subject: FBI SirCammed http://interactive.wsj.com/archive/retrieve.cgi?id=SB99601609210000000.djm July 25, 2001 Tech Center FBI Cyber Researcher Unleashes Virus That E-Mails Private Agency Documents By TED BRIDIS Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL WASHINGTON -- A researcher in the Federal Bureau of Investigation's cyber-protection unit unleashed a fast-spreading Internet virus that e-mailed private FBI documents to outsiders -- all on the eve of a Senate hearing into troubles at the unit. Although the Sircam virus didn't spread to other computers at the FBI's National Infrastructure Protection Center, it did send at least eight documents to a number of outsiders. One, about the investigation into an unrelated virus, was marked "official use only." The Sircam virus has infected thousands of computers since its discovery last week. 1U.S. Pentagon Shuts Down Public Access to Web Sites (July 24) 2'Code Red' Web Virus May Attack Other Computers in Coming Weeks (July 23) FBI spokeswoman Deb Weierman said that no sensitive or classified information about continuing investigations was disclosed Tuesday. The "official use" designation protects documents from disclosure under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act. It isn't uncommon for virus researchers to accidentally infect their own computers, but the mistake was particularly embarrassing because it occurred ahead of a Senate Judiciary panel's oversight hearing about the FBI cyber unit's effectiveness. Lawmakers were expected to focus on other agencies' failure to cooperate fully with the FBI center, and on a perceived lack of trust between the FBI and private-sector groups. The unit generally gets high remarks for its criminal investigations, and even critics say the unit is more effective than it was a year ago. "The effort here is not to embarrass anybody but to stress that a lot of work has to be done," said Republican Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona. Meanwhile, the White House has begun organizing a new early-warning network for Internet threats. But unlike the current system, it will be coordinated by the Pentagon, not the FBI. The mechanism for warning all U.S. military and civilian agencies -- and ultimately corporations -- will be dubbed the Cyber-Warning and Information Network, or "c-win." Organizers envision dozens of computer centers that could sound an alert when a threat is identified. The network is expected to begin operating in October. The FBI unit, which currently relays these warnings, came under sharp criticism from congressional auditors for issuing tardy alerts. Ms. Weierman, the FBI spokeswoman, called the new network a "useful mechanism" to offer the government a "technical capability that doesn't currently exist." The FBI, she said, wasn't concerned it would lose its warning responsibilities. Tuesday, at least three people said they received some of the FBI documents, including a 23-year-old Internet-security expert in Belgium, Niels Heinen. He operates a Web site that reports on Internet break-ins and speculated that the analyst, Vince Rowe, visited the site on the infected computer. Mr. Rowe didn't respond to a request for comment. Write to Ted Bridis at ted.bridis(a)wsj.com3 URL for this Article: http://interactive.wsj.com/archive/retrieve.cgi?id=SB99601609210000000.djm Hyperlinks in this Article: (1) http://interactive.wsj.com/archive/retrieve.cgi?id=e1-SB99601609210000000 (2) http://interactive.wsj.com/archive/retrieve.cgi?id=e2-SB99601609210000000 (3) e3-SB99601609210000000 Copyright � 2001 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Printing, distribution, and use of this material is governed by your Subscription Agreement and copyright laws. For information about subscribing, go to http://wsj.com -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: So, what do the Russians think?
by Ray Dillinger 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

Good point. A Russian cryptographer was grabbed, unable to talk to his consulate for at least three days, and the Russians don't say anything? I smell a rat. Perhaps Dmitry was sold down the river. (Note for non-USA readers: "sold down the river" is an americanism for betrayal. It dates from the days of slavery, where the conditions for slaves were worse the further down the (Mississippi) river they were. It was common for slaveowners to promise to sell their slaves upriver to gain their goodwill, and then sell them downriver for more money than they could get upriver. Since slaves' communication was tightly controlled, lying to the ones left about where their buds had gone was also common, and usually undetected. Parallels to the current situation are left as an exercise for the reader.) Bear

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25 Jul '01

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Thought-A-Day
by Fountain Of Inspiration 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

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So, what do the Russians think?
by Trei, Peter 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

One of the curious aspects of the whole Sklyarov affair is the silence of the Russians. I've not heard of any comment from the Russian government on the US news, the Novosti press agency has said nothing today or Tuesday (all I can check), and TASS has a couple of headlines, but (as far as I can tell) no editiorial material going either way (I can't read the TASS articles without a subscription). Most odd.... Peter Trei

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Re:Job satisfaction and security clearances
by Faustine 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

At 5:54 PM -0400 7/24/01, Faustine wrote: >Tim wrote: > >>Likewise, I know of even some Cypherpunks who have left their >>employers for ideological reasons. And if some have _left_ jobs, the >>effects are likely greater on the _recruiting_ side (where the costs >>of a decision are much less). > >Absolutely. More than that, I try to never take a job unless I'd be willing >to do it for free. All free-market principles aside, if you're just in it >for the paycheck, what's the point? I'd rather do something I love that's >meaningful to me than just make a pile. Even better not to have to choose >at all. (Not there yet, so #1 it is...) >I liked, even greatly liked, some aspects of my job in the 70s and >80s, but there is no way I would have done it for "free." I was >getting up at the crack of dawn, arriving by 8 or earlier every >morning, working more or less continuously until 6 each night, often >working on Saturdays, sometimes working on Sundays, to do what my >bosses told me needed doing. While I could often innovate, the broad >outlines of my "interests" were set by management. >I believe this is mostly the case in 99% of all work environments, >even ones "loved" by the workers. Very few jobs are of the form "Do >what turns you on." True, I guess--this time around, I just happen to be in the extremely lucky 1%. Any work I have to do that's somewhat of a grind is a tiny, tiny price to pay for the rest of the time I have complete freedom to work on whatever projects I want while surrounded by excellent resources: my office is so private, comfortable and well-equipped, I usually stay late every night and come in on the weekends--researching, writing, coding, studying, absolutely anything I feel like doing. In a few weeks, it's back to a full graduate courseload on top of a flexible 40 hour workweek (we set our own hours), but since my employer is actually paying 100% of the tuition, and all the coursework dovetails nicely with the research I'm doing (for myself and for them), I couldn't be happier. I'd be a fool to let an opportunity to be in an environment like this pass me over in the name of "more leisure time." Even if I were unemployed and had my absolute choice, I'd still be researching, writing, coding, studying, etc. So the paycheck and free tuition is basically just icing on the cake. I never dreamed I'd get to the point I could say that, but there it is... >What most people think of as "loving" the job is >really just the result of adapting their own goals to that of the >organization. It works for dogs, who also "love" their jobs, so why >not for humans? Yep, good point. But then again, there's the question of the differences in work environment between academia/nonprofit/NGO/think tank-types of places and the private sector, small businesses/corporations. Each of these sectors has a different reason-for-being, which in turn attracts different types of people. For instance, no matter how much freedom I could possibly have at a widget factory, I don't think I could ever get over the fact that the bottom line is I'm just there to make money for someone else via widgets. Plenty of dissatisfation to go around. On the other hand, the first group of institutions is different in that respect because the "end" isn't a healthy profit, it's producing ideas or some other kind of service for the "good", (define as you will). Sure, there can be a lot of overlap between the public and private sectors, but in the best-case scenario that's a large part of the motivation. In fact, I think that blending the best of the nonprofit and for-profit worlds is the key to eliminating their respective drawbacks and getting rid of government intereference alltogether. I'd be glad to take this up further, if you don't find it utterly laughable. (snip) > If you can >scrape by, trading your free labor for experience isn't always a bad >bargain...it's worked for me more than once, and I sometimes I eventually >ended up on the payroll. >News flash: some of us were on the payroll from Day One. oh blah, blah: for the rest of us, it's just part of a strategy to get farther, faster on the continuum of doing what you want to do. If you want to be able to work at Prestegious Groups X Y or Z but they aren't hiring, what else can you do? Before you know it, you've got a resume with experience from X Y and Z on it. And since you had the guts to propose and design the internships yourself, you have better control over what you get experience in whereas Day One payrollees get stuck with the low-level stuff, longer. Use people's sense of self-interest to further your own, it's the easiest thing in the world. >I have never worked a minute of "free labor," not counting helping friends >move their stuff, you make it sound like volunteering is just busywork for dupes and suckers... >and not counting the thousands, nay, tens of thousands, of hours I have >spend on lists like this one. So when are you going to set up the Cypherpunks Mailing List 501(c)(3)? LOL! ~Faustine.

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