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MATT DRUDGE: 200 women to be impregnated with cloned embryos
by Jim Choate 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Yip, yip, yahooo!!!!!!!! http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Linux Today - MachineOfTheMonth: Audio conferencing with Linux [SSZ: incl. encryption they claim]
by Jim Choate 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-08-04-007-20-SC-HL-SW -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Le interesara
by COFOR 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

1.8.2001.Publicidad/Enseñanza a Distancia Hola que tal: El motivo de la presente carta es informarte de la posibilidad de poder realizar algún curso a distancia de tu interés, cursos relacionados con tu trabajo inquietudes y ocio.ect.El conocimiento es el mayor patrimonio de que podemos disponer. Nos dedicamos desde 1996.a impartir cursos a distancia disponemos de una amplia variedad de cursos sencillos para poder seguirlos comodamente desde cualquier parte del mundo y a unos precios muy competitivos. NET ------------ Redes y Sistemas Sistemas Servers Diseño Web BUSSINES ------------ Gestion Comercial y Marketing Relaciones Publicas Recursos Humanos Comercio Exterior Direccion Comercial Gestión Medio Ambiental SALUD SUPERACION PERSONAL ------------------------------------- Psicoterapia Psicologia Practica Nutrí terapia y Salud Monitor Yoga Tai-Chi Hipnoterapia Quiromasaje y Reflexoterapia Aromaterapia Cosmética Natural Hierbas Medicinales -------------------------------------- CURSOS BECADOS: Los cursos son de 200.horas lectivas el precio standar por curso es de 35.000.pts(Despues de beca)España a plazos.Iberoamerica 150.usa dolar aplazados.(Despues de beca) El Diploma: "Técnico Especialista" El tiempo aproximado por curso dependiendo de los conocimientos en areas similares de que se disponga,es entre 2-6.meses.aprox. Si desean que les ampliemos información pueden enviar un e-mail les contestaremos con la mayor brevedad y les indicaremos nuestro espacio web que se encuentra en reformas.No lo pienses mas y envia un e-mail y recibiras todo tipo de informes y detalles muy en breve. Envie e-mail: COTFORTR(a)terra.es Sin otra que rogarte me envies un e-mail si estas interesado/a Te enviamos un saludo. Si desea no recibir mas e-mail. remove/mail CUERRT(a)terra.es distancia.20(a)wanadoo.es Jose Garceran COFOR Gestion Integral 1.SL C/Constitucion.34 03310-Alicante España ------------------

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Le interesara
by COFOR 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

1.8.2001.Publicidad/Enseñanza a Distancia Hola que tal: El motivo de la presente carta es informarte de la posibilidad de poder realizar algún curso a distancia de tu interés, cursos relacionados con tu trabajo inquietudes y ocio.ect.El conocimiento es el mayor patrimonio de que podemos disponer. Nos dedicamos desde 1996.a impartir cursos a distancia disponemos de una amplia variedad de cursos sencillos para poder seguirlos comodamente desde cualquier parte del mundo y a unos precios muy competitivos. NET ------------ Redes y Sistemas Sistemas Servers Diseño Web BUSSINES ------------ Gestion Comercial y Marketing Relaciones Publicas Recursos Humanos Comercio Exterior Direccion Comercial Gestión Medio Ambiental SALUD SUPERACION PERSONAL ------------------------------------- Psicoterapia Psicologia Practica Nutrí terapia y Salud Monitor Yoga Tai-Chi Hipnoterapia Quiromasaje y Reflexoterapia Aromaterapia Cosmética Natural Hierbas Medicinales -------------------------------------- CURSOS BECADOS: Los cursos son de 200.horas lectivas el precio standar por curso es de 35.000.pts(Despues de beca)España a plazos.Iberoamerica 150.usa dolar aplazados.(Despues de beca) El Diploma: "Técnico Especialista" El tiempo aproximado por curso dependiendo de los conocimientos en areas similares de que se disponga,es entre 2-6.meses.aprox. Si desean que les ampliemos información pueden enviar un e-mail les contestaremos con la mayor brevedad y les indicaremos nuestro espacio web que se encuentra en reformas.No lo pienses mas y envia un e-mail y recibiras todo tipo de informes y detalles muy en breve. Envie e-mail: COTFORTR(a)terra.es Sin otra que rogarte me envies un e-mail si estas interesado/a Te enviamos un saludo. Si desea no recibir mas e-mail. remove/mail CUERRT(a)terra.es distancia.20(a)wanadoo.es Jose Garceran COFOR Gestion Integral 1.SL C/Constitucion.34 03310-Alicante España ------------------

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RE: Demime & CDRs (was Re: Security Against Compelled Disclosure)
by Sandy Sandfort 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Malpractice Stooge wrote: > A verbal agreement between two > parties that dictate how they > will relate to each other is a > contract. Unless it fails to contain all the elements required of a valid contract (you know those elements, don't you Jimbo?) or it violates the Statute of Frauds or similar rules (you know about the Statute of Frauds and similar rules, don't you Jimbo?) or violates some public policy (you know about those public policy concepts don't you Jimbo?). Any failure along these lines would render such a verbal "agreement" unenforceable in contract. S a n d y

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CANARYPUNKS
by Sandy Sandfort 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

C'punks, I've just had a flash of insight into the purpose that Village Idiots I-III, and Jim Bell serve. (Tim May is a special care which I'll treat separately, below.) The are all coal mine canaries. When they succumb, the rest of us know it's time to get out of the mine (lower our profile) for a while. Of course, real mine canaries have no choice. Given a choice, I think they'd opt to stay top-side. OUR canarypunks, no matter what the miners say, loudly proclaim that the miners are full of shit about all this hypothetical hypoxia and poison gas as they march right into the adit. Those who were on the list at the time will remember how Jim Bell pooh-poohed every warning that I and others gave him. He knew the law better, he was smarter than the FBI, he had "a solution," the Constitution was on his side, etc. EVERYTHING I said came true, NOTHING he said did. Live and learn (or don't). Think of it as evolution in action. As I said, Tim May is a special case. Unlike Jim Bell (damn lot of "Jims," if you ask me) and the Three Stooges, Tim's ideas and opinions actually bring value (other than just canary value) to the list. Nevertheless, in the final analysis, Tim is also a canarypunk. For what it's worth, I think the chances of Tim's life ending in a hail of federales' bullets is less than 50%, but still significant. I'll miss his contributions if and when he commits blue suicide. So what does all this mean? Well, since a word to the wise is sufficient, I think I'll stop working so hard to get the Three Stooges to act in their own best interest. I'll make whatever warnings I think are appropriate so that the folks with a clue will have whatever benefit they wish to derive from it. If the Three Stooges choose to ignore good advice from me and others, well, so be it. I'm glad to have their voluntary contribution to the rest of us in their roles of canarypunks. S a n d y

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Slashdot | Sklyarov Bail Hearing Monday
by Jim Choate 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

http://slashdot.org/yro/01/08/04/2150240.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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10'th Anniversary
by Jim Choate 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

What would be the 'official' crank-up date on the Cypherpunks mailing list in 1992? Time for a 10 year anniversary. -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Extradition from the Great Beyond
by Faustine 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Faustine wrote: Dr. Evil wrote: >> Not safe at all, even the unclassified programs are getting better all >> the time. Check the archives for some interesting past >> discussion--and if you feel like tinkering around yourself, there's a >> ton of free software you can download here: >> http://www.content-analysis.de/software.html > Very interesting! I wonder if it is possible to learn to write in > other "linguistic fingerprints"? I'll have to look into this. Part of the problem is that in order to do that you'd need to change the subjects, sub-subjects and themes you like to talk about, period-- because "fingerprint" goes a lot deeper than word frequency. Even pure code has a discernable "fingerprint" of sorts. It's a losing proposition. > Are there any such programs that are free and run under Linux? I'l bet there are, I just can't remember any off the top of my head. If you root through the links, I'm sure something interesting will turn up. And if you have access to a Windows box at all you could always disassemble a sample program you like and rewrite it under your own platform. I'd rather get in there and improve it than use it straight out-of-the-box anyway. >>More interesting by far would be to write software that sanitized the >>text. Learning to write with a *different* fingerprint should be easy. Not as easy as you might think: even a causal reader familiar with these analytic techniques knows how to spot a faked style--and if you're the only person in the group who takes a real interest in a certain cluster of subjects, how hard is it going to be to pin the nym to you, if you've already written a body of posts to compare it with? I've been told the FBI uses technology that would knock your socks off. I bet they had a lot of fun tracking down Hanssen's other usenet nyms...not a bad test case for the hobbyist, actually. Faking a style might be good for short messages and the like, but participating in a discussion group for a length of time? Forget it. Unless you're willing to put some serious work into creating a totally distinct persona, you're wasting your time. This might seem a little unorthodox, but if you're really intent on it, a couple of classics which could help are "Building a Character" and "Creating a Role" by Constantine Stanislavski. No need to re-invent the wheel... ~Faustine.

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Re: Slashdot | Roasting Sacred Cows
by John Young 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Jim, I appreciate your resistance. Still, our experience on Cryptome with offering only URLs indicates that they are little used unless there's a taste of what is worth going to see. No doubt that it would be easiest to give only URLs and let the lazy bastards graze readers-digest crap elsewhere. But it's not the deadheads we'd like to swap info with, for they never give back enough to make it worthwhile -- usually the shits just send more URLs without explanation as if we can read their profound thoughts. What we've found is that if you treat your readers with respect they'll give it to you, even send you stuff you'd never see otherwise. That is, they'll inform you and educate you in ways you can't do alone, though that shared experience isn't for everyone, I'll grant you, in particular when you want only to talk and preach and not listen and learn. So we've found that the better we make our samples the more likely readers will figure we're offering something worth reading, and if they like it they'll eventually return the favor, and if we're lucky we get better than we offer -- indeed, that is always the case: the best stuff comes in from folks who figure they'd like to take part in a mutually rewarding situation, as we see on cypherpunks. URLs alone send a message of laziness, contempt, cluelessness about the benefits of communication as against dancing castaway on an island. For that solo shit you don't need CDR, the Net, the world, or think you don't until the radio farts coming from your ass are only cancer static.

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