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Re: IP: Fwd: FINLAND MULLS PUTTING NATIONAL IDs ON CELL PHONES (fromNewsScan Daily) (fwd)
by Sampo Syreeni 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Eugene Leitl wrote: >>FINLAND MULLS PUTTING NATIONAL IDs ON CELL PHONES >>The Finnish government is considering using SIMs -- the subscriber >>information modules inside every cell phone -- to take the place of its >>national identity card, and eventually even a passport. Essentially they are thinking about putting FINEID into SIMs alongside the GSM subscriber application. FINEID is PKI implemented by the Finnish government, or more accurately, Vdestvrekisterikeskus (Population Register Center). See http://www.fineid.fi/. It is currently used in the smartcard version of our national ID card which is used to enable dsigging transactions with governmental and municipal authorities. If I'm not entirely mistaken, Finnish law has already been amended to make dsigs binding in the eyes of the law, so basically you can use the card for any transaction. The infrastructure is not widely deployed, yet, and few people have FINEID enabled ID cards. About Eugene's fears, one already needs a national ID card here, since it is needed to "prove" your identity whenever you have dealings with governmental authorities, or try to withdraw money from a bank, or whathaveyou. (In fact this is one of the fun countries where the police has the authority to detain you until such time they can verify your identity, for no reason whatsoever.) Since everybody has one such document already, and the vast majority also has a cell phone, the extension to FINEID on SIM ought to be relatively painless. I suspect there will be little outrage over the matter, here. >>Under the plan, the >>computer chip embedded in every SIM would store personal information, >>transforming the SIM into a person's legal proof of identity. That personal information is very limited in the current incarnations of FINEID. The application is basically a government certified binding between a running identifier (called SATU) assigned by person, and the person's first and last names. It is pretty strange that even as we do have a unique ID ("henkilvtunnus") in use for the populus, that is not included on-card. SATU does constitute another such number, if it's ever assigned to a significant majority of Finnish people, but there seems to be no way for an ordinary reader of an ID card to tie SATU to the national ID. VRK of course has the means, since they assign both numbers, and the info likely leaks... Now, it is quite probable that they'll include a digitized photograph and maybe fingerprints if FINEID is ever used to sub for a passport. That is something even I'm pretty concerned about. The same goes doublefold for any attempt to make the FINEID app invokable remotely, when the SIM is attached to a phone. >>Currently FINEID uses a smart card and a card reader attached to a PC, >>but the plan is to migrate to an SIM, says Vesa Vatka of the Finnish >>Population Register Center in Helsinki. (New Scientist) Which, of course, are basically the same thing. I believe the application already exists. It'll likely be put out in a year or two, likely without a significant counter-reaction over here. The interesting part for most people on this list is that if the application ever gathers support on the phone manufacturer side, it might well be that the app has some potential to spread abroad as a result. I'm mainly speaking about Nokia, with its Finnish roots and dominance of the GSM market, but also whichever companies thrive in the 3G mobile arena -- the latter will work unchanged in Europe, Japan and the US. If models are produced which support PKI-on-phone, they might well be easy to deploy throughout the world. Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy, mailto:decoy@iki.fi, gsm: +358-50-5756111 student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front

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Stressed with Debt???
by vrakanga＠msn.com 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

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List Update - 08/09/01
by BeaverHome 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

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Hacking Internet Park Benches
by Bill Stewart 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

Turns out it's really just a park bench with four phone lines for laptop users to plug in modems, and nobody'd thought to block long distance or international calls. After they'd called their local council, they called Bill Gates's secretary, but didn't reach Mr. Bill himself. -----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave@farber.net] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 11:12 AM To: ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com Subject: IP: the Internet park bench >Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:35:01 -0400 >To: farber(a)cis.upenn.edu (David Farber) >From: Richard Jay Solomon <rsolomon(a)dsl.cis.upenn.edu> >Subject: the Internet park bench > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1481000/1481783.stm Thursday, 9 August, 2001, 13:44 GMT 14:44 UK Bad start for internet bench The teenagers took advantage of the free service Two teenagers discovered the world's first internet bench could be used to make free international telephone calls. The cyber-seat, which is based in a public park in Suffolk, UK, went online on Monday. Neil Woodman and Dan Sanderson, both 17, took a normal telephone handset along to the bench, which was created by Microsoft's MSN service in partnership with the local council. The pair cheekily phoned St Edmondsbury Council to warn them of the problem and then tried to call Microsoft boss, Bill Gates. For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/

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Re: Traceable Infrastructure is as vulnerable as traceable
by Faustine 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

Tim wrote: On Thursday, August 9, 2001, at 06:32 PM, Faustine wrote: >>> I think it's dangerous and entirely to your disadvantage to >>> dismiss everyone doing government work in computer security as >>> a donut-chomping incompetent Barney-Fife-clone imbecile. >>> Anyone can laugh at the department heads on C-SPAN, but did you ever >>> stop to think about who's really doing the hardcore >>> research for the NSA at Ft. Meade--and elsewhere? > I know of an old-school NSA red teamer who's been teaching programming > and engineering since before either one of us was born. An honest-to-god > mathematical genius. Some of those old wizards could teach us all a > thing or two. >>Since I have no idea how old the "Jim" you cite is, and since I suspect >>you are less than 25 years old, your claims are not very impressive. It wasn't meant to be impressive: my only point was that it's not a good idea for young people such as Jim and myself--"whippersnappers", if you prefer--to underestimate those with far more knowledge and experience in the relevant subjects. What could you possibly find to argue with in that. If you or anyone else here believes that no one at Ft. Meade could possibly teach you anything, fine. If you question my ability to recognize a first- rate mathematical mind when I see one, that's fine too. But if you honestly think there aren't information scientists out there every bit as technically competent and clued-in as you are, chances are you're setting yourself up for a rude awakening someday. Intellectual hubris... >We have had (and may still have) list members who were developing >systems for the NSA in 1963, fully 37 years ago. (Cf. "Harvest" in >Bamford's 1983 book. A hardy reader will known what I'm talking about.) The fact that list members have NSA work experience hardly refutes the point I was making that you shouldn't dismiss someone as a donut-chomping incompetent on the basis of his taking government work. >You twentysomething grad student should be very careful when talking >about 'before either one of us was born." While probably true, of little >significance. It's all in the context. ~Faustine.

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by Anti-Viral Plugin 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

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