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Re: Bomb Law Reporter - special edition
by Declan McCullagh 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

At 05:37 AM 8/18/01 -1000, Reese wrote: >Strangely, my dignity was not offended, I think yours is. That you >came (heh) to Aimee's defense indicates what, exactly? Paranoia becomes you. I didn't "come to Aimee's defense" -- I took issue with your post. One can (indeed almost has a moral obligation to) do the latter without engaging in the former. As for Aimee, Tim's criticisms of her have been reasonably accurate. She, as I have pointed out in the past, writes in strangely stilted English, has not done standard things like reading through some of the early cypherpunkish texts before suggesting ostensibly novel topics that have been well-discussed here before, and so on. The difference is that she shows promise -- her posts are becoming more relevant and comprehensible -- and you do not and likely never will. I expect this will be my last post in this sad, Reese-infested thread. -Declan

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Re: Bomb Law Reporter - special edition
by Declan McCullagh 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

At 04:55 AM 8/18/01 -1000, Reese wrote: >What can you exactly blame her for? I can't blame her for taunting not-so-happy and not-very-fun Reese. Spare me the cries of offended dignity; they hardly sound convincing when one has little to begin with. -Declan

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by Jim Choate 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

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by Jim Choate 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

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by Jim Choate 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

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Re: Bomb Law Reporter - special edition
by Declan McCullagh 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 12:52:09PM -1000, Reese wrote, quoting Aimee: > >Agents don't get to use remailers and cower behind them. > > Cypherpunks don't get the power and sovereign immunity of the reigning > governmental infrastructure to cower behind. > > Show me a proof that no Agent has ever used a remailer, that no Agent > shall ever use a remailer. Of course government agents can and probably will use remailers. Heck, they can pose as journalists, priests, etc. complete with fake ID and cover stories and commit felonies. Using mixmaster is nothing by comparison. The government has created the Onion Routing project expressly to protect the identity of government workers, including agents. Aimee was having fun with you, and I can't exactly blame her. -Declan

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IP: Pentagon Hides Behind Onion Wraps (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO : N48 10'07'' E011 33'53'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 06:25:51 -0400 From: David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> Reply-To: farber(a)cis.upenn.edu To: ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com Subject: IP: Pentagon Hides Behind Onion Wraps Seems like the stuff we did at UCI in the 70's under a Darpa contract djf >Pentagon Hides Behind Onion Wraps >By Declan McCullagh > >2:00 a.m. Aug. 17, 2001 PDT > >Onions may be the secret ingredient in protecting the Pentagon's >classified information. > >During an afternoon presentation at the Usenix Security conference on >Thursday, a researcher at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory >described a technology known as "Onion Routing," which preserves >anonymity by wrapping the identity of users in onion-like layers. > >"Public networks are vulnerable to traffic analysis. Packet headers >identify recipients, and packet routes can be tracked," said Paul >Syverson, who works at the NRL's Center for High Assurance Computer >Systems. "Even encrypted data exposes the identity of the >communicating parties." > >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46126,00.html For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/

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by None 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

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by None 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

<CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: Ray Everett-Church <ray(a)EVERETT.ORG> Subject: Book announcement--Ludlow Comments: cc: wolfskil(a)mit.edu To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM Forwarding... Please direct any inquiries about the book to wolfskil(a)mit.edu. -----Original Message----- From: Jud Wolfskill [mailto:wolfskil@MIT.EDU] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:17 PM To: Cyberia-L-Request(a)listserv.aol.com Subject: book announcement--Ludlow I thought readers of the Cyberia List might be interested in this book. For more information please visit http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?sid=B37FD3FE-0FA5-461E-811… Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias edited by Peter Ludlow In Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias, Peter Ludlow extends the approach he used in High Noon on the Electronic Frontier, offering a collection of writings that reflects the eclectic nature of the online world, as well as its tremendous energy and creativity. This time the subject is the emergence of governance structures within online communities and the visions of political sovereignty shaping some of those communities. Ludlow views virtual communities as laboratories for conducting experiments in the construction of new societies and governance structures. While many online experiments will fail, Ludlow argues that given the synergy of the online world, new and superior governance structures may emerge. Indeed, utopian visions are not out of place, provided that we understand the new utopias to be fleeting localized "islands in the Net" and not permanent institutions. The book is organized in five sections. The first section considers the sovereignty of the Internet. The second section asks how widespread access to resources such as Pretty Good Privacy and anonymous remailers allows the possibility of "Crypto Anarchy"--essentially carving out space for activities that lie outside the purview of nation states and other traditional powers. The third section shows how the growth of e-commerce is raising questions of legal jurisdiction and taxation for which the geographic boundaries of nation-states are obsolete. The fourth section looks at specific experimental governance structures evolved by online communities. The fifth section considers utopian and anti-utopian visions for cyberspace. Peter Ludlow is Associate Professor of Philosophy at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. Contributors Richard Barbrook, John Perry Barlow, William E. Baugh Jr., David S. Bennahum, Hakim Bey, David Brin, Andy Cameron, Dorothy E. Denning, Mark Dery, Kevin Doyle, Duncan Frissell, Eric Hughes, Karrie Jacobs, David Johnson, Peter Ludlow, Timothy C. May, Jennifer L. Mnookin, Nathan Newman, David G. Post, Jedediah S. Purdy, Charles J. Stivale. 6 x 9, 451 pp., 4 illus. paper ISBN 0-262-62151-7 cloth ISBN 0-262-12238-3 Digital Communication series Jud Wolfskill Associate Publicist MIT Press 5 Cambridge Center, 4th Floor Cambridge, MA 02142 617.253.2079 617.253.1709 fax wolfskil(a)mit.edu ********************************************************************** For Listserv Instructions, see http://www.lawlists.net/cyberia Off-Topic threads: http://www.lawlists.net/mailman/listinfo/cyberia-ot Need more help? Send mail to: Cyberia-L-Request(a)listserv.aol.com ********************************************************************** --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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