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by info＠giganetstore.com 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

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[Announce] HavenCo Sealand Remailer Online
by Ryan Lackey 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Subject: [Announce] HavenCo Sealand Remailer Online (remailer.havenco.com) Date: Sun Sep 16 07:02:13 UTC 2001 After over a year of having HavenCo's facilities on Sealand open for customers, I have decided to set up a remailer on a spare machine. In light of recent events in NYC and DC, and the near certainty of both future legal actions against individual liberty in the name of "security", and possible extra-legal/terrorist action against critical parts of the Internet infrastructure by various parties, it seems prudent to establish secure offshore services as soon as possible. Hopefully this remailer can be a small part of that. I'd also be happy to host a private operational list (i.e. remops minus several specific people) for remailer operators, as Len suggested a while ago. I plan to offer several interesting services from Sealand in the future: - a mail-to-news gateway (at least for interesting groups) - SSL web-to-remailer - nym services - possibly secure web-based email - possibly secure IMAP/POP3 over ssh/ssl - possibly "agents" which act on email messages, within certain sandbox environments (user-defined autoresponders, etc.) - secure mailing lists, archives of some security-based mailing lists (cypherpunks to the beginning, coderpunks, cryptography, remops, etc.) with full-text search These services are in addition to HavenCo's high security managed colocation, consulting, and software development. More information is available at http://www.havenco.com/ My primary concern is limiting the usability of these services for HavenCo AUP violations; specifically spam and spam-mailbox. A per-message charge or decrement would likely accomplish this, along with either payment or proof-of-work. My goal is to make all services for pay as soon as a suitable payment infrastructure is deployed. Donations to support the remailer may be made through http://www.e-gold.com/ account 191914 with "remailer" in the memo line. Config for remailer.havenco.com is: Celeron 533 256MB ECC RAM 2 x 30GB disk FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Postfix snapshot-20010808 $remailer{"havenco"} = "<mix(a)remailer.havenco.com> cpunk mix pgp remix latent +hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20 reord post"; PGP Key: Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID pub 1024R/A222FA27 2001/09/16 HavenCo Sealand Anonymous Remailer <mix(a)remailer.havenco.com> - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: N/A mQCNAzukFdcAAAEEAJ+gzhkBCvhyfKla6CvA06MS02M+9fjxoRWw69KkVm1i5+Nv Y8M1tgHI717byLM01tLEIhWzUtyCQM7UCwo4rkHkqSC1zdRlnK3HxdqR05lXSvjJ +u3i665qhvPXz+8waG0w5qi+Z/PfsUFLr8B3xW9uSkgiAOzN9a9GOROiIvonAAID tD1IYXZlbkNvIFNlYWxhbmQgQW5vbnltb3VzIFJlbWFpbGVyIDxtaXhAcmVtYWls ZXIuaGF2ZW5jby5jb20+iQCVAwUQO6QV169GOROiIvonAQG3wAP/Va+FOzZ5wTSj 2iWaSEc9fwv9myrJueUHYjnWCWKcOtK3Uj4sNCRt5cshvaT6qaeCW5JnMY7XRv/F tlNFQJpnGgfKMAFYXV0aRextvr9m2iqKgAZYBs2Xye1xLoz7zw2t1keCGvruLURB G1ncyMbSeF7wHODomspHDOkV93IoFRc= =LiQg - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID pub 1024D/64A1975F 2001/09/16 HavenCo Sealand Anonymous Remailer <mix(a)remailer.havenco.com> sub 1024g/6B1E76FE 2001/09/16 - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: N/A mQGiBDukFr0RBAC/RMBEWyUmr8APcX5CkSyvkV9Lw/IUetxTFiMbvI0FfzMrxXLl AEB/vlvayQT69jnfxDs5QqaZ+AzdUTd+GvGDTIIXPH/YpiErpHj74NDUEYXIQMvP MyoKtIepjHJO72TP/3qr+hdbOy2GrlGCgIEHLZbUF6wgHRCX/5uqsnHHyQCg0hvJ 55qNioCrB358EahzW20745sD/jueQ1DKceA/sjJ3l9wrD/A6rKJRcT91nDEwotPY mIoMMD+AxdFptmsciMZ1lG8v7wzWUGWp4am9E1R1seIsRE4eJCMhT63XWRxMdU+w UU+aE/VXe3yMJ0xLNOubN/n4cua8TMfgkgDpqzXPXf0EHk5F8bgjWhprl60+jrcf pHoWA/wO02AN1YI9W9bhROrJcJLawFG3sUuox25gEvBuwj2sTaGYjCEwPWiqfnDi LO21ggl7XYpEOzwTGSovGwm0AnjX29Y2fVoYWa82dAdycW6kJBC2mn+D/YJ9Vezq 1Fp0hgfeophNwcyNpGn2jLIMB7pA2c1Asl/60trkDmgTYYPC+rQ9SGF2ZW5DbyBT ZWFsYW5kIEFub255bW91cyBSZW1haWxlciA8bWl4QHJlbWFpbGVyLmhhdmVuY28u Y29tPokASQQQEQIACQUCO6QWvQILAgAKCRBfYBtvZKGXX9gdAKCAfX/OGgSmVH/2 uUc4oEikyReQMwCguGD2PXMKqe2CJ5++suPCRdcIKAG5AQ0EO6QWvRAEAOY8AM+R r1tJOKujQX2vqB9577mzUiO3aNuaT5gf5P0QRPqouuEiDvH9vg5RcG+mKyc4j/C9 x3czV5Bvu3LjALeOI6Wh8HCnLnNAj9e+0Oq8X85Z+adwWixF101UVlpAsDAc3eKv QV8bb0ruZM8kn4xmxWYUPYUzHgVT3DuoQeDXAAMFBACgtK9bM+sNMuWXeEl8m1kd AvMFeDp2zibRVkP1C59b8G1tO6fYd+TE5iGPoxpNgjqVSfx0DKGgtVHjZaGtGlyQ KOPbj5dpB+dl4nUYN0fGufbAs2Q4qX1yxjnxqVDtDJ4OMltUKoon0F4uCkxnz364 QolM6n2iWrv2S6mND8H9UokAPwMFGDukFr1fYBtvZKGXXxECh9kAoIiRmWLD1sSu FHlgkW6YvS89RhgJAJ9Z1HCzERjwR1RO7A7JlG9zexvugw== =VU++ - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Mixmaster key: havenco mix(a)remailer.havenco.com dcd835a6ecfc412ba8535949ff30be44 2.9beta23 CNm - -----Begin Mix Key----- dcd835a6ecfc412ba8535949ff30be44 258 AATCb0yiTHhLWzxAKbZPb2N7kI+PhjgVsY/vUFC5 xWQu3XkDnHjyLwKvZTZsdEwWmnZmgbp9NoBVGdXl m+0+M5V1hS4EP2YOd/YtMBUMriPbEZpZRZ8V7og+ qVArqXXyX5C3XbbR++yeMoCEjq+vmBpy6aOELoUq cvSxIBCoJU8+XwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAB - -----End Mix Key----- - -- Ryan Lackey [RL7618 RL5931-RIPE] ryan(a)havenco.com CTO and Co-founder, HavenCo Ltd. +44 7970 633 277 the free world just milliseconds away http://www.havenco.com/ OpenPGP 4096: B8B8 3D95 F940 9760 C64B DE90 07AD BE07 D2E0 301F -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pFF4B62+B9LgMB8RAvt9AJ9NP4C+MUAVfSVbWDEm3pHLwGLFjACgniyJ eOmNvq0SqDxoCmLENigWIBs= =ejVv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ryan Lackey [RL7618 RL5931-RIPE] ryan(a)havenco.com CTO and Co-founder, HavenCo Ltd. +44 7970 633 277 the free world just milliseconds away http://www.havenco.com/ OpenPGP 4096: B8B8 3D95 F940 9760 C64B DE90 07AD BE07 D2E0 301F

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by Ignacio.Lazaro＠quierotv.com 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

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Re: Brazil Parliament Votes To Allow Air Passengers To Carry Firearms?
by Matthew Gaylor 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

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Sunday discussion on privacy and civil rights is at 1pm
by Rob Carlson 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

The Sunday discussion group on preserving privacy and civil rights in the time period following the World Trade Center tragedy will begin at 1pm. Same as yesterday, we will meet in the Lobby of the Albin O. Kuhn Library on University of Maryland Baltimore County campus in Baltimore, MD. More information and directions are available at www.cluebot.com or by calling 443-540-1957. Yesterday's meeting was amazingly educational and helped narrow the focus of what political action needs to be taken quickly and in the short term. The focus of this meeting will be a letter-writing campaign, so bring your notebooks (paper and electronic) and wireless cards if you have them. The AOK Library is 802.11b wireless enabled. http://www.cluebot.com/articles/01/09/14/2242257.shtml Notes from the previous meeting will (hopefully) be available shortly prior to the start of this one. Hope to see you here. Rob -- Rob Carlson rob(a)vees.net http://vees.net/

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by ChipCenter QuestLink 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

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muddleheads
by citizenq＠hushmail.com 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

>>> "maybe it shouldn't be done so fast." But then you say the bill >>> "will have to go to conference committee and then, probably, both >>> chambers of Congress for another vote.." >> >> I raised few policy objections. Instead I laid out what the bill would >> do. >> >> It sounds like you're what Tim would call a simp-wimp apologist for >> using Carnivore without court orders who is actively trying to sabotage >> privacy. "nyah-na-nah-na-nyah-nyah. I know you are but what am I?" Come on let's grow up. >> >> > >Yep, "citizenQ" is one of the simp-wimps.He hides behind his Hushmail >and Ziplip accounts, possibly using remailers fed into them, but then >calls for regulating crypto and privacy. > Uh huh, yep, that's it fer sure, uh huh. Idiots, there isn't a single place I call out for that. I call for clear thinking of which there is so little. I want good information and analysis, not kneejerk skyfalling pandering idiocy. In your little book, if I criticize Declan I'm calling for regulating crypto. Now that's rich. My use of the this or that technology itself should tell you exactly that I don't support its regulation. What I want is some really smart people to help keep the gov. from becoming more frightening than the terrorists, in the smartest possible way, and if you read my posts to Declan you'll see that. Looks like this list is the wrong place. The whole point is that his analysis is somewhat superficial with respect to the nature of the threats from the legislation, while at the same time he runs around blaring "Warrantless Carnivore" because it's all that fits into the cognitive scheme of the audience and he ignores the subtle context of the intent and the struggle that is going on in the hearts and minds of the grownups who are trying to come to terms with what to do. To imagine that by bouncing the rubble (so to speak, sorry) of all the old arguments yadda yadda, we are going to have any effect on the current process, is naive and childish. It's a new game, running in circles screaming and shouting is not going to win it - So what is? Well, we need more info on the cast of congresspeople and where they stand. We need to objectively understand the ramifications of legislation like what's proposed, and it needs to be done to the mass audience and not to the tired Wireds. We need advance notice of upcoming discussion in Congress. We need to understand the minds of the people on both sides of the arguments in order to have effectiveness. We need accurate unbiased reporting, identifying the critical battles. We have to choose those battles in congress, because to keep chanting the same undifferentiated rhetoric will create or reinforce such a credibility gap that it will be easy to ignore the whole unruly mess. Create come credibility, knowing the mind of those who do not share your views. God you guys are smart - try to apply it now to good effect. Now, are you clear that I am not your little pigeonholed vesion of what you think when you hear something besides your own regurgitated rhetoric?

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cyberhomeland defence
by mattd 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

Sustained AP at shrub when executive order on assasins is revoked.?War on 3 fronts if columbia warms up. Hell,tim might rope some of his paintball buddies along for the ride.Every empires got to go sometime... Look how fast the USSR went.

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by LordZe 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

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Schoolyard arguments
by citizenQ 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

I read it. Yes but in the deconstruction/analysis, you STILL don't support your position WRT the objections raised, you switch over to "maybe it shouldn't be done so fast." But then you say the bill "will have to go to conference committee and then, probably, both chambers of Congress for another vote.." So it's not being passed *into law* at midnite by voice vote, it will be subject to investigation and review, Leahy is out there doing a good job, and finally - does your Wired readership know that you think so little of them that they can't understand some of what this debate is about? Killfile away, and I shall do same. ----- Original Message ----- >Unfortunately for "citizenq"'s tender sensibilities, sometimes it actually >makes sense to call a fool a fool. This is one of those times. "citizenq" >clearly does not understand the difference between a news article written >by the general public that does not permit line-by-line analysis of the >bill and more technical commentary that it suitable for other fora. I did >write a detailed description of the bill for Politech, where such an >analysis is appropriate: >http://www.politechbot.com/p-02518.html > >"citizenq" has proven itself someone who needs killfiling. > >-Declan > > >At 09:08 PM 9/16/01 +0000, citizenq(a)hushmail.com wrote: >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> >>- ----- Original Message ----- >> >On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 03:06:59PM -0700, citizenq(a)hushmail.com wrote: >> >> The wired-generation issue is that we don't need glib knowitall >> >half-information or reporting that's packaged just like an SUV ad >> >except it's for the socalled digiscenti. The issue is that we need >> >the best information that we can get and Declan's superficial >> >reportage of the Congressional debate does NOT fulfill the need. >> > >> >Fool. >> >>"Doesn't take criticism well." >> >>I linked to the transcript and posted the text of the bill myself. >> >I offered in-depth coverage. Compare and contrast to wire coverage of >> >the same legislation to achieve enlightenment. >> >>Is this where you set the bar when lives are on on the line? You post a >>link, post some text and then proclaim the sky is falling, or this thing >>or another thing, without analysis? My point is you have to do better. >> >>"Doesn't perform according to his potential." >> >>Never mind I'll do it myself. >> >> > >> >-Declan

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