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Comments on US Food Aid Propaganda
by Matthew Gaylor 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

[Note from Matthew Gaylor: The food packages in question each provide roughly 2200 calories and are dropped from around 10,000 feet with a parachute like device attached to prevent injury when they land. Bill Walker, Peter Trei and Danny Yee below have the best commentary.]

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by madmullah 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

Squeeking wheel gets a kick or two. -- "It is the responsibility of intellectuals to speak the truth and to expose lies." -Noam Chomsky

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RE: US Food Aid Propaganda
by Trei, Peter 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

> Matthew Gaylor[SMTP:freematt@coil.com] writes: > [...] > Then as a > watched the news tonight I heard again what I've been hearing on > various American media ad infinitum that the US Military had dropped > 37,500 food packages along with the first wave of attacks on > Afghanistan, on Sunday. Realizing that there are several million > refugees in the northern areas of Afghanistan, such a small number of > food packages doesn't seem really that adequate. [...] > My theory is that if you hear that the US is dropping food packages > along with bombs it reinforces the propaganda that the US is doing > this to "help" the Afghan people. It doesn't matter from a > psychological operations perspective if the aid is effective but > rather it only matters if the target group thinks you're helping. In > this case the target audience being the Afghan refugees and the > unwitting American media consumer. [...] > Regards, Matt- > This is one of those things where you can run the numbers. ...37500 meals dropped on Sunday. The packages don't look like they weighed much more than a pound. Lets be very generous, and say 1 kilo. That's 37.5 metric tons in one night, max. Sounds like a lot? According to the World Food Program website (www.wfp.org) the UN is trying to truck in 52,000 tons a month. Assuming a 30 day month, that's 1733 tons/day. The US bombing shut down the UN aid delivery for a few days, (it's now going ahead again, even under fire, because the need is so critical). The US airdrops replaced, at the very maximum, less then 2.5% of the food whose delivery was prevented by the bombing. I'm reminded of the recent corporate ad from RJ Reynolds, where they made of deal of delivering some amount (less then 10 tons, I think) or aid to Kosovo. That amounted to a single truckload. They then spent many times the cost of the aid on airtime to trumpet their humanitarian efforts. Peter Trei

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FBI's Scarfo Keysniffer
by David Lesher 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

The Feebes have come up with some "details" on the keyboard sniffer they used in Scarfo: EPIC has it up: <http://www.epic.org/crypto/scarfo/murch_aff.pdf> -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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Re: al Qaeda website?
by Steve Mynott 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

"Lucky Green" <shamrock(a)cypherpunks.to> writes: > Attempting to obtain information from primary sources, I have been trying to > track down a bin Laden or al Qaeda website without any success. Does anybody > on this list have a URL? <http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:vQ4L_50JNYw:www.geocities.com/rizla786…> compare with <http://www.geocities.com/rizla7866/index6.html> Every thought how bad the net would be if google went away? -- 1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott steve(a)tightrope.demon.co.uk ninety-ninety rule of project schedules: the first ninety percent of the task takes ninety percent of the time, and the last ten percent takes the other ninety percent.

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RE: Google and the Net
by Trei, Peter 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

> Steve Schear[SMTP:schear@lvcm.com] > > > At 11:40 PM 10/9/2001 +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > > > >It's unfortunate that we have to rely on Google. Imagine an ongoing, > >distributed project to cache the web. Volunteers could keep tabs on > >a subset of corporate and personal web pages and cache old versions > >when changes are made. Rewriting history becomes that much harder. > >And it's certainly a better use of computers than seti@home. > > This is actually an excellent application front end for a Mojo Nation type > > system, as the data is redundant and distributed. > You get an interesting recursion problem arising - does your 'memory of the web' site include sites which contain archives for the purpose of being 'memory of the web'? Shades of Godel.... Peter Trei

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Re: who wants to be a millionaire
by Declan McCullagh 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 11:03:39PM -0700, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > (On second thought, after reading this collection of quotes, I wouldn't be > surprised if "mattd" AKA "Matt Taylor" were actually Agent Jeff Gordon. > They certainly share the same obsession. When was Gordon's last psych > eval?) No, I've written about "mattd" in the past, and, unless the Australian news media is lying to us, he's a self-professed anarchist who got in legal trouble for vandalizing a McDonalds on May Day, I recall. He's also entertained himself -- and us -- by taunting cops around the globe with AP-threats on indymedia sites. Now he's found the cypherpunks list and is apparently here to stay. At least until his sentencing... -Declan

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Register on Anderson: "Times misquoted me - crypto expert"
by Xeni Jardin 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

You gotta love those scribes at the Register--take this comment on UK tabloid frenzy over alleged stego-hijinks of OBL and crew: "Since the Times' stablemates the Sun and the News of the World have allegedly been hiding news in pornographic content for several years, (although we've never found any news in either paper to substantiate that meme), the allegation doesn't surprise us. " XJ ----- The Times misquoted me - crypto expert http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/22102.html By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco Posted: 08/10/2001 at 17:43 GMT International cryptography expert Professor Ross Anderson has demanded a correction from the The Times for being misquoted on the subject of terrorists' use of email. With echoes of Phil Zimmermann's treatment by the Washington Post, which manufactured quotes by Zimmermann expressing "regret" for devising PGP encryption, Anderson says the Times journalist "was determined - or had been instructed - to write the story anyway". Anderson lambasts The Times for unquestioningly peddling the meme that terrorists communicate using information hidden in pornographic content. Since the Times' stablemates the Sun and the News of the World have allegedly been hiding news in pornographic content for several years, (although we've never found any news in either paper to substantiate that meme), the allegation doesn't surprise us. "It is unclear what national interest is served by security agencies propagating this lurid urban myth. Perhaps the goal is to manufacture an excuse for the failure to anticipate the events of September 11th. Perhaps it is preparing the ground for an attempt at bureaucratic empire-building via Internet regulation, as a diversionary activity from the much harder and less pleasant task of going after al-Qaida. "Perhaps the vision of bin Laden as cryptic pornographer is being spun to create a subconscious link, in the public mind, with the scare stories about child pornography that were used before September 11th to justify government plans for greater Internet regulation," writes Anderson. Anderson suggests the articles "should be read as a deliberate plant by MI5". You can read more here <http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/ukcrypto/2001-October/01770 8.html> and here <http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/ukcrypto/2001-October/01771 2.html>. .

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by Jim Choate 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

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