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assasinating larry(measl is a bushit artist)
by mattd 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

> My belief is that every Congresscritter who voted to pass this USA Bill > should be tried and executed. Amen. > As for the 600 "Arabic-looking" men (maybe a few women, I don't know) > being held without charges being filed in a timely way, I'll chortle if > even 10 of them become vengeance-seekers in the next 10 years. > > Someone held unjustly, without charges being filed, is morally obliged > to kill his oppressors. Again, A-Fucking-Men! > --Tim May, Citizen-unit of of the once free United States > " The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood > of patriots & tyrants. "--Thomas Jefferson, 1787 -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. <snip> That was a blast from the not so distant past of one 'measl'...Now someone tries to put the fine words into effect with tools apparently feared and taken seriously by the oppressors and they get asked by someone called measl "did you take your meds today?" Thanks measles,thanks a hell of a lot. Is ja terranson just another blowhard pantsdown republican paintballer?

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X-mail
by measl＠mfn.org 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

http://www.xfiles.com/main_flash.html (popup for "fan mail") "Regarding fan letters and other mail to "The X-Files" and Ten Thirteen Productions: Due to the recent security concerns, we will not be opening any paper mail received at our production office from unknown sources. This includes fan mail, letters to all of the actors, and other submissions to anyone at Ten Thirteen. For the time being, we request that you correspond to us via email, addressed to askthexfiles(a)fox.com. We will respond as much as we can. If you have mailed anything recently to the production office, your letter may not be opened. Please re-send all letters through our email account." If this keeps up, I'll have to pay my rent via EFT... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Chinese take-away
by mattd 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

Your china in OZ writes,(china plate=mate=bud,pal) Not content with selling huge amounts of american flags (made in chinese gulags)China recently tested dong feng missiles capable of dropping nuclear payload on US assets .They reversed engineered cruise missiles too so dont worry if one goes up your street and turns left.They have got a 'knock off'spy plane with pilot wangs brother watching.The balloons full of biowar agents and fresh avian flu strains will be floating over soon also.Watch the skies! ITs not gone unnoticed that tidal patterns also favour WMDs launched your way.The chinese govt's realised you wanted a wag the dog war with it all along and will ,sooner or later so 'first in best dressed' or 'operation king hit' is the order of the day.(You didnt hear this from me)Luv,mattd.

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Re: Google and the Net
by Nomen Nescio 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

> >> Steve Mynott[SMTP:steve@tightrope.demon.co.uk] wrote: > >> Every thought how bad the net would be if google went away? > >> > > Actually, us old timers remember what it was like before google, > > Hypertext in general is doubleplus good. > > I remember Gopher, Archie, and all of those crufty tools. You are all missing the point. Google was being praised for its specific feature of acting as an internet-wide cache of old versions of web pages. Prior to 9/11 the page in question held inflammatory content praising bin Laden. Now it's been pulled. The google cache lets us see the previous version, thwarting the efforts of the page owner to hide his earlier sentiments. Google thus serves as an honesty mechanism, holding people responsible for what they have said and making it more difficult for them to conceal revisions to their published opinions. All this old-fogey talk about "I remember the days before Google" is nothing but hot air. Sure, things were harder before search engines; of course they were, but it's a trivial observation. The point is that this often-unappreciated cacheing feature of search engines can have a powerful influence on the nature of the Web. It's unfortunate that we have to rely on Google. Imagine an ongoing, distributed project to cache the web. Volunteers could keep tabs on a subset of corporate and personal web pages and cache old versions when changes are made. Rewriting history becomes that much harder. And it's certainly a better use of computers than seti@home.

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Do spec ops set aside clean underpants?
by mattd 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

Optimizzin al-gorithm wrote... America will only be certain about its mistaken calculations after its soldiers are dragged in Afghanistan >as they were in Somalia,'' http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20011018/ts/attack_qaeda_usa_dc_1.html One bomb got USG out of Lebanon. A few stingers and some underwear on CNN got USG out of Somalia. Bombs didn't work for crusaders in Arabian barracks or warship. Wouldn't think oil is so addictive, but it is. People will die to get it. Maybe Osama's brother will recognize his writing and turn him into the FBI. <snip> Maybe if the reward was encrypted,AP style,one of his wives might 'kervorkian' him in his sleep.

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Intelligent source?
by Donald J. Coones 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

Please point to a strictly natural process that creates infoormation. What evidence is there that infoormation, such as that in DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000 books of coded infoormation that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells? If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent source. Why then doesn't the vast infoormation sequence in the DNA molecule of just a bacteria also imply an intelligent source? >

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by Jim Choate 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

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20 Oct '01

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Sign of Escalating Threat
by Anonymous sender 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/17/national/17WEAP.html?pagewanted=print Sign of Escalating ThreatBy STEPHEN ENGELBERG and JUDITH MILLERNews AnalysisThe discovery of what government officials say is high-grade anthraxin a letter mailed to Congress is the most worrisome development yetin a series of bioterrorist attacks that has already rattled thenation.The officials and weapons experts said yesterday that it suggestedthat somewhere, someone has access to the sort of germ weapons capableof inflicting huge casualties.So far, the officials said, the attacker or attackers have used arudimentary delivery system: the mail. Their intent and capabilitiesremain unknown, as does the amount of anthrax available to them. Butwhat worries the officials in Washington is the possibility that anadversary with even a small quantity could easily find much moreeffective means of spreading the disease.Until yesterday's preliminary analysis of the letter received by TomDaschle, the Senate majority leader, the spate of anthrax-lacedenvelopes stirred considerable anxie! ty! but posed a limited threat.Some experts assumed that the anthrax being sent around the countrywas crudely made, composed mostly of large particles that fell to theground and thus endangered primarily those in the immediate area.What government officials say arrived in Senator Daschle's office wassignificantly more threatening. Following the use of anthrax inFlorida, it suggests that for the first time in history asophisticated form of anthrax has been developed and used as a weaponin warfare or bioterrorism.The key to understanding the danger, experts said, is in the size ofthe particles. The anthrax sent to Mr. Daschle, government officialssaid, was finely milled so that it would float a considerable distanceon the smallest of air currents.Producing germs that could be spread as a mist had been the maintechnical challenge facing germ warriors throughout the 20th century.Anthrax is what the Nobel laureate Joshua Lederberg calls a"professional pathogen," a hardy germ that co! ul! d wreak havoc ifinhaled. The trick was turning it into an aerosol that lingers.Decades ago, Soviet and American scientists separately devised methodsto dry and grind anthrax into the tiny particles five microns orless that could easily enter the nostrils and lodge in the lungs.Experts say an adversary armed with anthrax in this form would have ahost of possible targets for mass terrorism. Experiments by the UnitedStates in the 1960's showed that anthrax released in the New York Citysubway could spread widely underground, infecting large numbers ofpeople. Federal officials used a benign germ related to anthrax todemonstrate the possible effects.An enemy with large quantities of high-grade anthrax could mount acredible attack on a city or large office building. Dried anthraxcould be spread using a crop-duster or small airplane equipped withthe appropriate nozzles. Buildings are an easier target and could becontaminated with a much smaller amount of anthrax pumped through a! ga! rden spray bottle, experts say.Victims of an anthrax attack can be easily treated with antibiotics,but that requires that public health officials recognize the germ hasbeen dispersed at a particular location. Experts say that detectionequipment is far from reliable, which means the first signs could comewhen people show up in the emergency room with flulike symptoms.Anthrax was one of the most important weapons in both the SovietUnion's and the United States' germ weapons arsenals.Officials from both countries say they never used germ weapons, thoughKen Alibek, a prominent defector from the Soviet germ warfare program,maintains that Moscow may have used germs as weapons against Germanyand in Afghanistan.The United States abandoned its own germ program in 1969, and soonafter most of the world's nations signed an international treatybanning the development and possession of such weapons.The Soviet Union also signed the pact, but cheated on a massive scale,say former Soviet off! ic! ials who worked to refine the strains ofanthrax, among other germs, until the fall of the Soviet Union in1990.In the 1980's, other nations, notably Iraq, began developing the germas a weapon. Iraqi scientists spent more than five years on theproject, cultivating anthrax and processing it into a wet slurry thatwas loaded into bombs and missiles.United Nations inspectors who later studied the Iraqi program saidBaghdad did not manage to produce dry anthrax that could be deliveredas an aerosol though it did buy specialized nozzles for its fleet ofcrop- dusters.In the years since, United Nations officials say, Iraq has acquiredthe capability to produce the high-grade, dry anthrax of theappropriate particle size.None of this history gives investigators much of a hint as to theorigins of the current attack. It is not clear whether the anthraxsent to Senator Daschle was produced by the attacker or attackers,bought from a foreign nation or made with the help of a roguescientist.Nor w! as! it known whether the attacker or attackers could make orobtain larger quantities.Former germ weapons scientists say that neither is easy. It tookexperienced Iraqi scientists several years to figure out how tocultivate large amounts of anthrax, which is the crucial first step tomaking a weapon.Drying the germs is relatively straightforward. But that processcreates a mix of particles that stick together, and most of them arefar too large for use as an effective weapon. Grinding the material toa small, uniform size without damaging a significant portion of thegerms is not easily done, former American and Soviet germ scientistssay.The discovery of expertly processed anthrax, one former scientistsaid, casts serious doubt on the theory advanced by some investigatorsthat the germ attacks were the work of a lone amateur with asmattering of knowledge about biology."I do think in one form or another, a state was involved," one formerAmerican scientist said. "It could be employees of ! a ! former state,such as a Russian scientist."Nor is it clear whether Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden's network, wasinvolved in any way. American intelligence officials say Mr. bin Ladenhas tried to acquire nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.Until now, there has been no suggestion that he has succeeded in thisgoal, although there have been reports of testing chemicals and crudebiological weapons on animals at one of his training camps inAfghanistan.The attempted use of anthrax against a United States senator takesPresident Bush into a new, uncharted realm, particularly if the attackis ever linked to a specific nation. On the eve of the gulf war, hisfather weighed the question of whether to respond with nuclear weaponsto a germ attack against the United States-led coalition. After adiscussion among his senior advisers, President George Bush decidedagainst such retaliation. Instead, American officials sent Baghdad anambiguously phrased warning that was delivered in a letter from M! r.! Bush to Saddam Hussein."Your country," the letter said, "will pay a terrible price if youorder unconscionable acts."

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http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/conditions/10/20/anthrax/
by measl＠mfn.org 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

"Northwest Airlines has banned sugar substitutes and non-dairy creamers from its airplanes to avoid anthrax scares sparked by the white, powdery substances." ROTFLOL! -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------

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