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Verba Volant del 26-10-01
by verba＠rol.it 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

Verba Volant del 26-10-01, Every day a new quotation translated into many languages. Logos Translations - www.logostranslations.com _________________ Quotation of the day: Author - Albert Einstein http://www.logos.it/bio/albert_einstein.html English - if there is no price to pay, neither is there any value Italian - se non c'è un prezzo da pagare, non c'è neppure nessun valore Spanish - si no hay que pagar un precio, tampoco tiene valor French - s'il n'y a pas de prix à payer, c'est que cela ne vaut rien Portuguese - se não há um preço a pagar, também não tem qualquer valor Brazilian Portuguese - se não tem um preço a ser pago, não tem também nenhum valor German - was man bekommt, ohne einen Preis dafür zu bezahlen, ist wertlos Hungarian - ha nincs megfizetendo ár, akkor érték sincs Finnish - jos ei ole hintaa maksettavana, ei ole arvoakaan Catalan - si no hi ha un preu a pagar,no hi ha tampoc cap valor Croatian - ako nema cijene kojom se neto placa, onda nema nikakve vrijednosti Czech - jestlie neco nemá cenu, kterou je treba zaplatit, tak to nemá ani hodnotu Dutch - als er geen te betalen prijs is, is er ook geen waarde Emiliano-Romagnolo - s'un i é ad tirar foura la pilla, un i é gnenca unquel ad stimer Furlan - sa nol è un presit di pajâ, nol è nancje nissun valôr Latin - nisi pretium solvendum est, ne momentum quidem est Polish - jesli nie ma ceny do zaplacenia, nie ma równiez zadnej wartosci Romanian - daca nu este un pret de platit, atunci acest lucru nu prezinta nici o valoare Slovak - ak nieco nemá cenu, ktorú treba zaplatit, nemá ani hodnotu Venetian - se no' ghe xe on presso da pagar no ghe xe gnanca nessun valore Sicilian - su non c' é 'n prezzu 'cchi pavari, non c' è mancu nuddu valuri Flemish - als er geen te betalen prijs is, is er ook geen waarde Ferrarese - s'an ghè brisa un prezz da pagar, an ghè gnanca un valòr Bolognese - san i é brîsa un prêzi da paghèr, an i é gnanc inción valûr _________________ All languages, please click on this link http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.frasiproc.carica?code=430 _________________ To unsubscribe from Verba Volant, please follow this link: http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.rol_ml.verbavolant and write in the empty field next to unsubscribe the email address that you find after "TO:" in the Verba Volant emails alternatively write to the following address: unsubscribe_volant(a)rol.it always copying the EMAIL address written after "TO:"

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Re: [EMED-L] Airborne anthrax protection... (fwd)
by measl＠mfn.org 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

interesting trivia for the biowar inclined :-) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:37:28 -0700 From: Tim Sturgill <kasei(a)POBOX.COM> Reply-To: EMED-L -- a list for emergency medicine practitioners. <EMED-L(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU> To: EMED-L(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU Subject: Re: [EMED-L] Airborne anthrax protection... >From JAMA. 1999;281:1735-1745. "Anthrax as a Biological Weapon: Medical and Public Health Management" @ http://jama.ama-assn.org/issues/v281n18/ffull/jst80027.html "The nonflagellated vegetative cell is large (1-8 microns in length, 1-1.5 microns in breadth). Spore size is approximately 1 micron." The germinated B anthracis is _larger_ than the _singular_ spore (dormant) state (the gram positive rod). The spores are being milled to the "spherical" and "singular" spore size, around 1 micron. The spores unmilled may clump greatly (as reported for the Boca Raton letter) as part of the process that was used to cause sporulation of the growing B anthracis stock. Also they clump because of electrostatic charge (which is now being reported to have been defeated). My question is how do the TB and HEPA masks function with 1 micron size particles that are electrostatically neutral. I would assume that all these masks were designed from the premise that small particles will always have a electrostatic charges--since only artificially made particles (requiring great technical skill) can be made electrostatically neutral. Is the filter a physical barrier at 0.3 microns? Or is this a physical + electrostatic barrier at 0.3 microns (which means that the physical component may be much greater)? regards/t _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tim Sturgill MD FACEP FAAEM logres(a)pobox.com _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ > -----Original Message----- > From: EMED-L -- a list for emergency medicine practitioners. > [mailto:EMED-L@ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU] On Behalf Of James Li, M.D. > Sent: October 25, 2001 04:26 > To: EMED-L(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU > Subject: [EMED-L] Airborne anthrax protection... > > > Anthrax spores are large, the smallest dimension around 0.7 microns > (diameter) by 3.0 microns (length, but often much longer). > "Spores may be larger than the diameter of the bacillus, but > usually are not." [1] The Washington Post article refers to a > diameter of 1.5 to 3.0 microns wide, but I think this may > have been a misquote (and length instead). > > Thus, a TB mask should be sufficient, as Dr. Siegelson > states. Given the article from the Washington Post, and the > postal cases that weren't supposed to happen (aerosolized > particles from "low risk" letter sources), it's probably > important to wear these in the ED in cases of suspected > exposure, until decontamination is clearly confirmed. We use > a standard N95 particulate mask at work (which is available > at any hardware store for sanding and painting work). In > addition, I would suggest using a HEPA (high efficiency > particulate arrestance) filter, which actively removes > particles at the sub ~0.3 micron level from ambient air, in > areas that might become contaminated. These also are readily > available, for under $100. I've been using a nice quiet desk > top HEPA filter for regular dust in my own house for years, > and got it from Wal-Mart for about $70. > > James Li, M.D. > Division of Emergency Medicine > Mount Auburn Hospital > Harvard Medical School > > http://www.remotemedicine.org REF [1] Medical Microbiology, Sherris JC, ed. pp. 319. ----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- I think that the TB mask is sufficient protective equipment from airborne spores, although there is no indication that it would be needed while treating a patient. Also, there is no reason to decontaminate the patient with soap and water. If he is worried, remove his clothes and send him home. He can take a shower there if he likes. If you wash the patient, the water can go down the drain. Henry Siegelson, MD, FACEP To unsubscribe, send the command "SIGNOFF EMED-L" to LISTSERV(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU To unsubscribe, send the command "SIGNOFF EMED-L" to LISTSERV(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU

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The Cost of Oil
by Steve Schear 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

[Forbes catches up to cypherpunks] Americans are paying a bigger price than they know for cheap gas. Charles Dubow http://www.forbes.com/2001/10/22/1022oilcosts.html

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Re: FINALLY! we can buy Staria
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

"Neil Johnson" <njohnsn(a)IowaTelecom.net> wrote : > >> > What's this then? >> > >> > http://www.tactronix.com/s100.htm >> > >> > >> > -MW- > >Looks like a nicely rendered computer image of the proposed device (somebody >there is good with POV-Ray?). > >-Neil > Too expensive.

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Mortgage Rates Are LOW!!!
by hopefully543＠yahoo.com 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

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MORE MENTALISM
by Sandy Sandfort 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

C'punks, Penn asked Teller for a good book on mentalism. Teller suggested a "great classic mentalism book is THIRTEEN STEPS TO MENTALISM by Corinda." I didn't find it on Amazon, but I'm sure it's out there somewhere. Soon, you too will be "predicting" lotto winners. S a n d y

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Dilbert Random Number Generator
by Bill Stewart 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

Dilbert's been visiting the Trolls In Accounting, who have been spitting all over his data. Now he's on a tour, and the troll is showing him their random number generator. http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2001182781025.g…

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Re: FINALLY! we can buy Staria
by Declan McCullagh 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

Did you read the page carefully? See: NOW TAKING PRE-ORDERS FOR DELIVERY IN DECEMBER 2001/JANUARY 2002 Very Limited Quantity Available That said, I'm surprised to see the units advertised. As I said in another message, Starium's chairman (I think that's his current title) indicated to me today they've switched directions. -Declan On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:15:31PM -0700, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > > Right. I have a pair of Starium betas. They work. I'd recommend them. > > > > But the problem is that the purchaseable product doesn't exist. I went > > down to Carmel a few months ago and checked out the company. I love > > the ideas and the tech, but I wouldn't expect to see a product in the > > very near future. > > What's this then? > > http://www.tactronix.com/s100.htm > > > -MW-

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'Privacy Council' in defense of M$
by Peter Capelli 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO65026,00.html This guy (Ponemon) needs a basic math lesson ... ... Ponemon criticized the federal government for not doing enough to ensure the FTC could enforce privacy infractions. Recent increases in the FTC's budget aren't enough, he said, mocking the government's statement that it had boosted the agency's budget by 50%. "If you start at zero, 50% is only 50 cents," Ponemon said. ... Pete Capelli pcapelli(a)nsec.net http://www.capelli.org PGP Key ID:0x829263B6 "Those who would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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25 Oct '01

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