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by Garnet Jackson 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

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Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device
by Eric Cordian 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Peter Trei wrote: > I have a vague memory of seeing a photo of a ?3 inch? ball of Pu (isotopic > composition unknown) in one of those old Time-Life books. The ball glowed > a dull red with it's own internal heat. Sounds like plutonium-238, NASA's favorite fuel for deep space Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators (RTGs). It puts out 0.54 kilowatts/kilogram and has a half life of 87.8 years. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: The Crypto Winter
by Faustine 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric wrote: >> I think the real flaw there--what keeps >> me so uncomforable with it (even though my gut tells me it's a logical >> conclusion)--is reflected in the sheer number of people I've seen change >>their minds once they found out a little more about how insecure they really are. >We call these people hobbyists. The size of the hobbyist market will >never be more than a fraction of the size of the appliance market. Interesting points, but it might have been useful if I had been more clear that the kind of people I end up affecting aren't "granny and sis", rather people I know from work and classes: scientists, mathematicians, engineers, economists, larval policy analysts with any-of-the-above backgrounds. Not "sheeple", just uninformed. Not really interested in computers for their own sake (part of what I think you mean by hobbyist), but as a tool to get their analytic work done. Whatever you want to call that, I certainly seem to have met plenty of them who were receptive to crypto, once presented with the right set of facts. Everyone who posts here must have their own stories of how they became passionate about encryption (or at least interested enough to think posting about it is a worthwhile way to pass time). If you remember back to whatever it was that made you take a stand, surely it's not too much of a stretch to figure out what to present to other like-minded people to interest them as well. There's no reason it has to be a waste of time, as Tim implied. If you have the slightest scrap of value for someone, telling them about their vulnerablities when they're completely blind to them is the only decent thing to do. If they don't feel like listening to you, of course they're on their own, but I wouldn't feel right saying nothing. Sometimes just e-mailing a link or two at the right time will do it: it costs me next to nothing and gets more people to use privacy tools and PGP, where's the downside. Give it a try, you might be surprised. ~Faustine. *** The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedoms. - --William O. Douglas, Associate Justice, US Supreme Court -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBO/nN5Pg5Tuca7bfvEQLoyACfYZBl0YF/dvMh9YoinMvyslyv8BkAn2W4 LG28NSGiL1R23cldZdFGnKJ8 =h0Sw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[광고] 최신영화도 보고 영어도 배우고
by 강경희 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

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19 Nov '01

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Re: The Crypto Winter
by Faustine 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: >Companies have been trying to convince the home computer user that they >should be encrypting for years. Doesn't work. And for not very >surprising reasons. Same thing seen in the home security business, >backups, etc. >(The average user doesn't make any backups. The average homeowner >doesn't do any more to secure his house than what it came with. In other >words, "the defaults." ) Right. I suppose there's not much that can be done for people who expect "security" to be handed down to them from the sky on a silver platter. I'm sure it couldn't be more obvious to most here that if you don't put out the effort to take responsibility for your own security, you aren't going to have it--for your computer or anything else. But then, that sounds suspiciously resonant with "if they're too lazy or stupid to get it, then screw em", doesn't it. I think the real flaw there--what keeps me so uncomforable with it (even though my gut tells me it's a logical conclusion)--is reflected in the sheer number of people I've seen change their minds once they found out a little more about how insecure they really are. Haven't you ever been in a discussion/argument/presentation about computer security with someone, and at some point you notice that moment when it finally registers, you know that it really penetrated something...and they must have that sickening queazy little feeling in the pit of their stomachs when they say: "Oh my God, I had no idea". And at some point, haven't you all felt that sick, queasy shock of recognition yourselves? Maybe from something you read on John Young's site, or in response to being hacked? I certainly did--after that everything was different. It's a great feeling to have someone thank you for giving them the information they needed to wake up and do something to help themselves. The downside is you always risk coming across like a nutcase cyber-Cassandra, but you don't have to if you just let the raw facts do the convincing for you. More generally, I found it puzzling to see everyone getting hysterical over 911 when we're precisely no more and no less vulnerable than we ever were. I didn't learn a thing from it I hadn't already come to terms with on my own. (Having been abandoned as a child and homeless on your own at 17 tends to do an excellent job of ridding a person of any excess sense of security. Not that I'd recommend it...) So maybe for all the people who responded to the shock of 911 with "I'd give up all my civil liberties to feel safe again" there were enough who were jolted into taking responsibility for their own security to make a difference. Something to consider when thinking about the future of crypto, anyway. ~Faustine. *** The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedoms. - --William O. Douglas, Associate Justice, US Supreme Court -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBO/mvyvg5Tuca7bfvEQLFcACgmlclCaF1BLe1+BtFWhSaS8/abiUAn1YB AYsjhc0ZiGKZD4SHMzBM4VMK =k/ZP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device
by Declan McCullagh 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:15:39PM -0500, baptista(a)pccf.net wrote: > i must admit i'm warming up to Tim May's tall pipe means of attaining > critical mass - much easier then playing with explosive and timing > devices - my only question is do our experts see a problem with > that means of delivery? Ah, yes. There are many -- dozens, perhaps hundreds -- of well-known, published nuclear engineers with practical experience in designing, engineering, and constructing atomic weapons posting on cypherpunks. I'm sure those folks in the audience will be delighted to answer your questions at greath length. -Declan

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Re: The Crypto Winter
by Major Variola (ret) 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

At 12:55 PM 11/19/01 -0800, Tim May wrote: >On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 12:36 PM, Faustine wrote: >> Haven't you ever been in a discussion/argument/presentation about >> computer >> security with someone, and at some point you notice that moment when it >> finally >> registers, you know that it really penetrated something...and they must >> have >> that sickening queazy little feeling in the pit of their stomachs when >> they >> say: >> >> "Oh my God, I had no idea". > >No, I can't say that I have. I have never wasted my time trying to >convince sheeple that they need to make backups, put good locks on their >doors, use encryption, not give their SS numbers to others, and so on. Besides, the news/experience does a good job. Events like bin Laden Airlines (for off-site backups), any number of virii and worms (for avoiding MS tools and not clicking random things), and random kipple (like disk failures reminding of the need for backups) eventually teach what mere words do not.

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