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by mattd 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

"...What are N-Grams? N-Gram Analysis is a a method patented by the NSA ..." "You spooks are a bunch of gray, snivelling, alcoholic, Aldrich Ames lookalikes driving around in your rusty Toyotas." mattkillthepresidentd.

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Re: in praise of gold
by Anonymous 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

[A repost of an earlier message regarding gold] > It's true - so why not say it? A hundred years ago, the Federal Reserve > "dollar" didn't exist, and a hundred years hence it won't be there. The > gold will still exist. Which is the better standard of value? > > Marc de Piolenc If you really want to look at 100 year time scales, gold is completely unsuitable as a standard of value. Over the next 100 years it is highly likely that we will develop new technologies which will totally change what we think of as valuable. Nanotechnology and similar methods will allow atom by atom restructuring of matter. Gold and other elements can be extracted from sea water or from the soil. Space mining will open access to mineral stores on other planets. Low cost, solar powered low-energy orbits can bring these resources back to earth. With all the changes that we are going to be seeing over the next 100 years, what are the chances that one particular metal is going to turn out to have anywhere near the same value that it has today? It is far more likely that the relative prices of all the elements will vary greatly from what we have known in the past. Look at a chart of the abundances of the elements in the earth's crust, and in the terrestrial planets. These represent "supply" of matter in the future. Demand will come from how useful these elements are in supplying people's needs. Carbon may well turn out to be a highly valuable element due to its great flexibility, strength, its biological role, and its relative rarity. Diamonds will be no more valuable than soot, of course, but both will be excellent raw materials for nanotech construction. Or they may not. We don't know enough now. But we can certainly say that any money based on the rarity of an elemental commodity faces the prospect of being highly unstable as we move into the nanotech regime. On the other hand, fiat moneys can be based on contract and mutual agreement. With cryptographic protection, account balances are transferred securely. And as multiple money issuers (the US Fed among others) compete in an international market, the global money supply will be self adjusting, as predicted by economic models. This is the true foundation for an economically stable future. Atoms are the past; bits are the future. Money is becoming information, with checks and balances already in place to control the global money supply. In contrast, basing the future economic system on the spatial distribution of metallic atoms would be foolish.

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Plan Canje Unico !!
by machine＠twinstuff.com 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

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AP Al Quim
by mattd 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

"On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, mattd wrote: > There are checks and balances,get a grip.Read the essay. No, there are not. > Its self limiting.No one who is anonymous has anything to fear from AP. The only way that AP would be harmless to an anonymous person is if they were anonymous to EVERYONE. The entire point of AP is to provide a mechanism to reach ANYONE who might infringe upon your 'rights'. Trying to pitch AP as if only certain classes of people are at risk is simply ignorance (you didn't really read AP now did you) or else you intentionaly misrepresent. Either way, your point isn't valid." Im not trying to pitch AP for anything.It applies to everyone not anonymous.Anybody can nominate anyone else.I was going to bring this up as sort of good indicator for 'reputations'.Negative reputations need rating,weighing and assessment too. The name 'assasination politics' might be seen as a negative.I use operation soft drill.I think that though its paradoxical that threatening people could lead to world peace,as long as no ones died yet,its worth a shot.Theoretically no one has to die. If I was saddam hussein and knew that a pool was accumulating on me.I might consider retirement.I dont think youve read the essay properly or you would remember the 'thermostat' and the 'car thieves' bits.The point is valid and the other point is not to panic.(seen any flying saucers lately?)

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Re: Congress of the rat.
by Jim Choate 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 jamesd(a)echeque.com wrote: > -- > On 10 Dec 2001, at 16:20, mattd wrote: > > Was it Chomsky who pointed out that the capitalist firm is > > structured like a totalitarian state? > > The difference is that you can change firms, or start your > own, without being shot. Which comes more from the involvement of government than any inherent ethical peak capitalism may aspire to (it doesn't so your point is moot unless you also admit the utility of having governments as intermediaries is a positive - can't see a CACL supporter as yourself going that route). -- ____________________________________________________________________ Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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AP Al quim
by mattd 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

"Jim Bell would have made AP an underground comedy if he had hung out with the time-wasterists at MIT rather than with the techno-commercialists. But I think his techno-political potboiler succeeds by making a comical wrong turn into the pokey, not once but twice, and inspiring CJ to follow, and mattd, and surely more to come as the AP PR machine gains momentum." jya. Jim seems to have missed out on teenagerhood.CJ seems not to have left teenagerhood.The boiling pot is like darwins discovery of evolution,It turned out to be a rediscovery of the findings of an obscure scottish orchardist.No matter,the theory was required for us all to progress/catch up/evolve further.The basics of AP are out,like bio-warfare and cant be suppressed short of a global panopticon.1984.everywhere,forever.I think we should talk about crypto-anarchy now.

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Delinquent orifacer list
by mattd 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

Subject: RE: Delinquent officer list Thank you for your Internet inquiry. Your message referred to a Jeff Gordon. Is that an employee of the Washington State Department of Revenue? Thank you, Washington State Department of Revenue Information Center -----Original Message----- From: mattd [mailto:mattd@useoz.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 8:28 PM To: communications(a)dor.wa.gov Subject: Delinquent officer list Agent jeff gordon is requested to supply the following...Tax Reporting Account number Legal Entity name (individual, partnership or a corporation) Original amount of the debt (the current amount due is not disclosable) Date of lien filing Court where the tax lien was filed Date the business license was revoked (if applicable)In relation to abuse of office in bell trial.

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AP Al Quim
by mattd 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

I hope tech tv does a story on this that enlightens the victorian police and they return the dell cs latitude they stole from me.If AP is illegal I want my day in court.I mantain,with bell,that 'AP' comes with the territory and cant be outlawed without 1984 type totalitarianism.Some type of AP will help usher in ecash and crypto anarchy will take off.Peace,luv and happiness. mattd AKA proffr1(a)fuckmicrosoft.com Subject: Macedon ranges Guardian.fri.june 8.page 3 headline story. M1 PROTESTER GIVEN BAIL-BUT OTHER POLICE INTERESTED A Kyneton man involved in the recent M1 protest in melb.has been accused of promoting what is reffered to as 'assasination politics',and is said to have come to the notice of the United States Secret Service and the Australian Federal Police. Assasination politics,according to the police,is the practice of nominating a person for assasination,inviting the general public to contribute money to a bank account and funding the assasination with the proceeds. Police charged Matthew Stephen Taylor last Friday over the vandelism of a McDonalds fast food outlet during the anti-globalisation protest on may 1. Charges are also pending against Taylor in relation to his alleged Internet activities. On Monday Taylor,46 of Baynton st,Kyneton applied for bail at Kyneton Magistrates Court.Taylor faced two counts of criminal damage and three counts of acting in a manner prejudicial to the good order of a police jail. As Taylor was led into court,he protested his innocence and described Bendigo remand where he had spent the weekend as a 'hell hole'Inside the court he adressed Magistrate William Gibb as "Your Highness" He told Mr Gibb he disagreed with his position on drugs and compared it with the 1930s prohibition on alcohol.He was reffering to the previous defendant who appeared on drug related charges. Taylor was supported in court by his father,Ken Taylor,a Mount Macedon poet who was recently awarded the Kenneth Slessor Prize for poetry at the New South Wales Premiers Awards. Prosecutor,Senior Constable Martin Holland said Taylors application for bail was not opposed but he asked Mr Gibb to impose six conditions. The first condition was "not to post threatening text on the internet toward any person whether located in Australia or elsewhere in the world" Sen.Const Holland said Taylor had made threats on the internet and a computor from Taylors Kyneton adress had been seized and conveyed to Melbourne for examination. Sen.Cons.Holland defended the wording of the first condition by saying it was not a blanket ban on all internet useage. The second condition prohibited Taylor from participating in assasination politics. ...The third condition was not to engage any other person in the first two things. The remaining conditions included a prohibition on Taylor participating in Melbourne demonstrations. Sen.Const.Holland said police had been watching Taylors activities on the website www.indymedia.org with some interest.He said anyone could download information onto the site.He said Taylor was known on the site as the 'nutty proffessor'and had posted a message on the site to chief commissioner of victoria Police,Christine Nixon.Sen.Const. Holland said the message stated that "...should you persist with this folly one of your number will be selected for retirement,i.e.execution." The prosecution called Senior Constable Nicholas Conte who said he had investigated video and photographic footage from the May 1 protest,including video footage of Taylor in an interview with Herald Sun journalist Peter Mickleburough.In it Sen.Conts.Conte said Taylor reffered to himself as "Robin Banks."He said the name was on the indymedia website and was traced back to Taylors adress by the computor Crime Unit. He explained the concept of assasination politics to the court and said he believed it originated in the United States where a man named Bell is currently under sentence in relation to it.He said based on comments Taylor had made on the internet he believed the defendant was advertising and trying to gain support for assasination politics. "He doesnt make any qualms about that."Sen.Const.Conte said. Asked by Mr Gibb what the reality of all this was,Sen.Const.Conte replied that he could not gauge the reality,he could only look at the probability. Under cross-examination from defense solicitor,Mr Cameron Ford,Sen.Const.Conte conceded he did not know if assasination politics had ever resulted in an assasination or attempted assasination.He said the investigation was continuing,with the Computor Crime Squad yet to look at the content of Taylor's computor files. Sen.Const.Holland said Taylors activities had attracted the attention of the US Secret Service and Australian Federal police. Mr Gibb said he did not doubt it,but expressed reservations about the conditions proposed for Taylor's bail. "It just seems to be a nonsense.Im being asked to impose all these conditions that bare no relevance to the charges,"he said. Mr Ford said the internet was something Taylor lives on and spends a great deal of time on. "He would agree to not post threatening text on the internet,but that was as far as he was prepared to go,"he said. Mr Gibb released Taylor on bail with the condition that he not post threatening text on the internet and continue to reside at his adress in Baynton street,Kyneton.Taylor was bailed to appear before the Melbourne Magistrates Court on August 16. END A letter to this paper resulted in their publishing the further information that the police had alleged me to be an anarchist where I stated that I was a may day celebrant(not m1 protestor) to commemorate the judicial murder of the Chicago martyrs.several anarchists framed and hung in Chicago's haymarket affair.I indicated that I was proud to be an anarchist and it was not illegal to be one.This was cut from the main story for some reason.(copy of letter available on request was published 1 week after story above.)Another local paper issued a clarification about me afterI rang them as they had described me as an M1 protester.Spelling in the above article is 'as is'.

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test
by root 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

hi

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CYPHER.PUNK MAILING LIST failure
by root 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

due to a fuckup with sendmail, cypherpunks at algebra.com did nto work for a while. I was not paying attention until Hal brought it to my attention.

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