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Re: sources on steganography
by Peter Wayner 30 May '02

30 May '02

At 11:19 AM -0400 5/29/02, Hector Rosario wrote: >I am writing my dissertation on steganography. Basically I'm writing a >technical monograph that would be of use to undergraduate instructors. >What do you think are the best sources on steganography on >the Web? What about books other than Johnson, Katzenbeiser & Peticolas, >and the volumes covering the four international workshops on information >hiding. I know that my book, _Disappearing Cryptography_, is being used as a textbook in a few schools. It's a bit broader than the others because it uses a more inclusive view of the topic. You can read a bit more here: http://www.wayner.org/books/discrypt2/ The book on Watermarking by Cox et al is also very nice, although very focused and very detailed. -Peter

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Re: sources on steganography
by Graham Lally 30 May '02

30 May '02

Hector Rosario wrote: > Why would I be interested in "fool[ing] [you]." All I asked was for some > help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a > hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what > drives you, then I suggest that you work on that. > > hr > > On Wed, 29 May 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote: > > >>>I am writing my dissertation on steganography. Basically I'm writing a > ^^^^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ >> >>You can't fool us. ...or "I am storb." for the proportionally-gifted.

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Re: sources on steganography
by Steve Furlong 30 May '02

30 May '02

Hector Rosario wrote: > > Why would I be interested in "fool[ing] [you]." All I asked was for some ^ ^ ^ ^ > help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a ^ ^ ^ > hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what ^ ^ ^ > drives you, then I suggest that you work on that. ^ ^ ^ ^ -- Steve Furlong Computer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel Vote Idiotarian --- it's easier than thinking

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Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D converters
by Nomen Nescio 30 May '02

30 May '02

Peter Trei writes: > My mind has been boggled, my flabbers have been ghasted. > > In the name of protecting their business model, the MPAA > proposes that every analog/digital (A/D) converter - one of > the most basic of chips - be required to check for US > government mandated copyright flags. Quite aside from > increasing the cost and complexity of the devices many, > manyfold, it eliminates the ability of the US to compete > in the world electronics market. This is absurd. In all the commentary on this issue, no one has made the obvious point that the MPAA has no interest or intention in putting watermark detectors into every ADC chip! They don't care about the ADC chip in a digital thermometer or even a cell phone. All they care about are things like PC video capture cards, which are high fidelty consumer devices capable of digitizing copyright protected content. Their white paper is a brief summary of their goals and intentions and does not go into full technical detail. But let's use a little common sense here, folks. It's pointless to try to shoot down this proposal by raising all these horror stories about ADC chips in industrial and technical devices being crippled by a watermark detector which will never be activated. If you waste time developing this line of argument, you will be left with nothing to say when the actual bill focuses only on the specific devices that the content holders are worried about. And sure, a sufficiently talented electrical engineer can produce a custom board to do non-watermark-aware ADC, and digitize TV shows and music. The MPAA has to accept that such activity will continue to go on at a low level. They just want to make sure that consumer devices are not sold that enable every customer to make easy digital copies of copyrighted data based on an analog source, as they can now with the Replay DVR. Please, let's use some common sense and not go overboard with an obviously mistaken interpretation of the MPAA's intentions. That wastes everyone's time.

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sources on steganography
by Hector Rosario 29 May '02

29 May '02

I am writing my dissertation on steganography. Basically I'm writing a technical monograph that would be of use to undergraduate instructors. What do you think are the best sources on steganography on the Web? What about books other than Johnson, Katzenbeiser & Peticolas, and the volumes covering the four international workshops on information hiding. I am also interested in the history of the subject. One major problem with the available sources covering the history (like Kahn) is that they completely disregard China, India, and Arab countries. Any pointers? thanks, hector

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