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by Pinelopi Jones 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

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Re: Flight security analysis (was Re: Confiscation of Anti-War Video)
by Harmon Seaver 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:35:06PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > At 02:45 PM 11/1/02 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > >On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > > > >> At 30K feet, you have about half a minute before you pass out > > > >Which isn't the problem it's the -40F that kills you. You freeze > >your ass off well before you ever die from lack of oxygen. The vast > >majority of folks can hold their breath long enough for a jet to go > >from 30k to 10k in a emergency dive. Less than 60s. > > Wow, Choate biophysics now. > > Do the thermal conductivity/inertia calcs. -40F *air* can't drop your > coretemp in 30 seconds. Do the math. Or go up to the Dakotas > this winter and step outside for half a minute. It hurts but > doesn't kill that quickly. We lived for a long, long time in far northern MN in a cabin with no electricity or running water. When I had to pee in the middle of the night, I'd just run outside and pee in the yard. Summer or Winter, it made no difference, and I never found it a problem standing out there buck naked and barefoot at 30 below. Can't imagine that 40 below would be much different. And since my wife objected to yellow snow right by the house, I had to walk at bit away, not clear to the outhouse, but a piece. OTOH, I did once when we lived up about halfway between Jasper and Prince George, BC fall thru the ice in the Fraser River up to my waist (fully clothed tho) and my legs lost all feeling almost immediately. Of course, that river up there was pretty close to being straight off a glacier and was too cold to swim in even in July or August. I likewise went thru the ice to my waist in N. MN once and it wasn't bad at all. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com "War is just a racket ... something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small group knows what its about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses." --- Major General Smedley Butler, 1933 "Our overriding purpose, from the beginning through to the present day, has been world domination - that is, to build and maintain the capacity to coerce everybody else on the planet: nonviolently, if possible, and violently, if necessary. But the purpose of US foreign policy of domination is not just to make the rest of the world jump through hoops; the purpose is to faciliate our exploitation of resources." - Ramsey Clark, former US Attorney General http://www.thesunmagazine.org/bully.html

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Re: Flight security analysis (was Re: Confiscation of Anti-War Video)
by Major Variola (ret) 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

At 05:16 PM 11/1/02 -0500, Steve Furlong wrote: >But Maj Variola made a questionable point, too: > >> At 30K feet, you have about half a minute before you pass out > >I just tested that, sort of. I emptied my lungs, then lifted weights for >30 seconds. It was a little painful toward the end, but I didn't grey >out or anything. I was unable to find my ref. But I also know that muscles can work anaerobically; also that asphyxiation-feeling is from too much CO2, not a lack of O2. Also, you can't really empty your lungs. I once saw a show about medicine. In it, an M.D. rebreathed his own CO2-scrubbed air as he wrote the alphabet, on camera. Halfway through he started scribbling incoherently and fell over, unawares. (There were assistants to save him.) FWIW

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LIDAR/Lasers
by Tyler Durden 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

"Some of these problems can be avoided by using very short pulses. Again you get into dwell, the short pulses -must- be made up for by increasing the PRR and this defeats the who purpose of the short pulses since you need more of them (we're talking an integration effect here so it doesn't take much to understand why duty cycle isn't as important as you make it out to be" IR is not particularly better than visible for most wavelengths, and fog is the real killer (as opposed to rain or even snow). But I know the LIDAR folks found that there ARE some nicer wavelength windows within the IR band. As for pulsed lasers, here's where my knowledge of military applications fails me (I used to work in civilian ultrafast/femtosecond optics.) As for pulsing such a laser, I can't quite imagine WHY this would be attempted for damage reasons (reconaissance is a different sotry). If the pulsing is in the millisecond regime or faster, I would imagine this is only to allow for population re-inversion of the laser material (ie, to keep it lasing at higher peak power). But I assume the military's laser research in the wavelengths of interest are well beyond the need for this. Of course, there's the easy possibility that the military does use fast pulses for the purpose of knocking out certain sensor materials via 2nd order/nonlinear processes. As we found out back in 92 or so (from some declassification), the military's optical research in Adaptive optics was in some ways 30 years ahead of the civilian world. Who the heck knows what they're doing with laser pulses. _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

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Re: Flight security analysis (was Re: Confiscation of Anti-War Video)
by Steve Furlong 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

On Friday 01 November 2002 16:35, Major Variola (ret) wrote, in response to another of Choate's odd statements: > Do the thermal conductivity/inertia calcs. -40F *air* can't drop > your coretemp in 30 seconds. Do the math. Or go up to the Dakotas > this winter and step outside for half a minute. It hurts but doesn't > kill that quickly. I was thinking the same, having been in -40 weather before. I haven't been in -40 with a 500MPH wind chill, though. On the other hand, we're not talking a convertible jumbo jet with the top down, so the wind chill might not be that big a factor. Bottom line, I think Choate was blowing smoke, as usual. But Maj Variola made a questionable point, too: > At 30K feet, you have about half a minute before you pass out I just tested that, sort of. I emptied my lungs, then lifted weights for 30 seconds. It was a little painful toward the end, but I didn't grey out or anything. -- Steve Furlong Computer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel Vote Idiotarian --- it's easier than thinking

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01 Nov '02

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P2P ordered to monitor users, files
by Major Variola (ret) 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

Can't wait until some lawyer in a black robe tries to understand Freenet... which works with Java 1.4.0 on Win95, BTW File-swapping 'Madster' must track songs Friday, November 1, 2002 Posted: 10:03 AM EST (1503 GMT) ALBANY, New York (AP) -- The file-sharing service Madster must keep a list of songs available through the system as part of a court order to block access to copyright works. U.S. District Judge Marvin Aspen in Chicago granted a preliminary injunction against the service Sept. 4. The judge sided with recording company officials who claimed Albany-based Madster violated copyright law just as Napster had before it. Aspen waited until this week, however, to release terms of the injunction to give the two sides time to suggest wording tailored to stop only the transfer of copyright files. In addition to disabling access to copyright works, Aspen directed Madster to monitor its system and keep a list of "any and all sound recordings and musical compositions" being made available. That list must be shared with recording companies upon five business days notice. Service must comply The service also must file regular reports detailing its compliance. Madster founder Johnny Deep did not immediately return calls Thursday. He has said that he didn't know of a way to filter copyright files because the transferred material is encrypted. <snip> http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/biztech/11/01/madster.ruling.ap/index.html

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Re: Katy, bar the door
by Steve Schear 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

At 09:32 PM 10/31/2002 -0800, Tim May wrote: >On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 05:09 PM, Steve Schear wrote: >> >>Unfortunately, there are many gasses which kill or disable with only a >>small dosage (e.g., VX). Unless the cabins are equipped with toxic air >>sensors (possible in a few years with all the biochip work underway) I >>think the masks may be be too little too late. > >I'm missing the gist of this scenario. > >If the attackers/hijackers cannot get into the cockpit and gain control of >the plane, then the most they can do with disabling/lethal/nerve gases is >to cause the plane to essentially crash randomly...which kills a few >hundred people, but probably not many more. This may be more than sufficient to place a final nail in the airline industry coffin. Killing NY sheeple in high rise buildings isn't the only way to hurt us. steve

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patents
by R. A. Hettinga 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

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