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Re: Liquidating the Mud People
by Freematt357＠aol.com 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

In a message dated 9/21/03 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, camera_lumina(a)hotmail.com writes: > I'm wondering if after writing this you started putting 2+2...guns are > legal > in Canada...go see "Bowling for Columbine"...apparently, many Canadians have > > guns, but they just don't use them to kill people very often. > Only certain guns are legal for the socialists to the North, basically hunting bolt actions and shotguns. Incidentally such guns are usually many more times more powerful than most pistols. Ohio and Florida are the main source of illegal guns in Canada, so me being a gun owner from Ohio with a house in Florida, I got extra scrutiny. Quite a testament to their databases. One of the women customs agents spoke of their distaste for pistols, so in reply I mentioned that just last week I shot a Para-Ordinance .45 belonging to a buddy. Para-Ordinace is a gun manufactor from Ontario. While in Toronto I read that some employees from Para were caught selling gun parts to whoever wanted them- It appears that gun control doesn't work for them either. You can travel to Canada with a rifle, you just have to declare it along with the serial number which they record and where you're going to hunt or camp or whatnot. Regards, Matt-

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Re: Walker: NAT means you are a consumer, not a peer
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

Thomas Shaddack <shaddack(a)ns.arachne.cz> writes: >>Also Speak Freely maintenance is ending. > >Not really. The project is moved to Sourceforge. Isn't that synonymous with "Speak Freely maintenance is ending"? Peter :-).

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by cpunk＠lne.com 21 Sep '03

21 Sep '03

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Re: Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger
by Major Variola (ret) 21 Sep '03

21 Sep '03

At 06:35 PM 9/21/03 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: >"I no longer consider 9/11 a terrorist act." > >Fuck. I've been nearing a similar conclusion, though from an entirely >different, uh, line of approach. Though I don't consider having quite >crossed that line yet. > >I guess in the end we are responsible for the actions our government takes. >And if we remain ignorant and continue to benefit (and do nothing to stop >it), then we are responsible, particularly when our military represents an >outrageously assymetric invasionary force. If you pay taxes, you are a terrorist. Even if you pay them under threat of violence, as most do. 9/11 was a commando/specops operations against an invader on par with Rome. If the US were invaded by troops from Arabia, one would expect that American Patriots (tm) would perform similar military actions. What part of "beware foreign entanglements" does Congress have a comprehension problem with? Give part of germany to the jews, and give palestine back to the arabs, and blame the history of British imperialism. Buy whatever oil, hash, carpets you find on the free market. ---- Trade with all, make treaties with none, and beware of foreign entanglements. -George Washington

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Re: Liquidating the Mud People
by Tyler Durden 21 Sep '03

21 Sep '03

Matt Gaylor wrote... "That's what free people have and that's one of the reason's I'd never move to Canada. Naturally my car got searched with a fine toothed comb, but I added I wouldn't be stupid enough to bring my pistol. I spent considerable effort cleaning my car of any stray ammo, thinking what sort of post 9/11 hell I'd me in if they found a .308 or errant 9 mm. Speaking with Canadian customs however I discovered that I could have legally imported 5,000 rounds of ammo. Apparently people do so for hunting trips." I'm wondering if after writing this you started putting 2+2...guns are legal in Canada...go see "Bowling for Columbine"...apparently, many Canadians have guns, but they just don't use them to kill people very often. -TD >From: Freematt357(a)aol.com >To: timcmay(a)got.net, cypherpunks(a)lne.com >Subject: Re: Liquidating the Mud People >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:11:18 EDT > >In a message dated 9/20/03 10:36:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >timcmay(a)got.net >writes: > > > Me, I don't fly on Jet CIA Blue or Delta Delta Operations, or any other > > of the Big Brother-controlled airlines. (And now they are financially > > suffering and want citizen-unit taxes to bail them out... > >Any prediction when the police state fascism of the air will be exported to >the interstate highway system? Personally I won't fly either, as I want to >be >treated as a customer and I refuse to be treated as a suspect. As a >suspect >the airlines can eat my seat. > >However, I refuse to be hog-tied so I travel around the US on the ground- >I've encountered two travel concerns- One on I-10 outside of El Paso at a >border >patrol checkpoint- The Border Patrolman wanted to know where I had been and >where I was going and what I had been doing...In short, intrusive none of >their >business questions. That time I was traveling from Phoenix to the French >Quarter of New Orleans- The Fed wanted to know why I was using the southern >route, so I said why not? At the time they were searching some hapless >teenage >boy's pickup so they waved me through. Interestingly I visited Mexico that >trip >and when I reentered the US I didn't even have to show ID. The guys at >Customs >and Immigration just waved me through after asking me where I'm from, >albeit >I look American. > >The other was at a Canadian border crossing on my way to Montreal. The >Maple >leafers have a database of American gun owners, as the customs guy asked me >"You have a pistol?" to which I replied no. He asked again not believing me >"You don't have a pistol???" Upon which I replied that is correct I don't >have a >pistol, I have pistols plural. My buddy traveling with me announced in a >loud >voice so the entire station could hear, of course we have pistols, and >rifles >too- That's what free people have and that's one of the reason's I'd never >move to Canada. Naturally my car got searched with a fine toothed comb, >but I >added I wouldn't be stupid enough to bring my pistol. I spent considerable >effort cleaning my car of any stray ammo, thinking what sort of post 9/11 >hell >I'd me in if they found a .308 or errant 9 mm. Speaking with Canadian >customs >however I discovered that I could have legally imported 5,000 rounds of >ammo. >Apparently people do so for hunting trips. Noteworthy is the unguarded St. >Lawrence River with unguarded boats moored alongside the shore. We >traveled >alongside it on both sides of the border and thought how trivially easy it >would >be to cross undetected. It's not like the government efforts have to make >sense. > >Regards, Matt Gaylor- _________________________________________________________________ Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

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Walker: NAT means you are a consumer, not a peer
by Major Variola (ret.) 21 Sep '03

21 Sep '03

(from /.) http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/eol/ has a good rant by John Walker on how NAT turns users into consumers. Also Speak Freely maintenance is ending. Sic transit unix to PC secure vox. Note that PGPfone devel ended a while ago, unsupporting PC to Mac secvox. Nautilus is AFAIK PC to PC only. John is also pessimistic about 1. IPv6 deployment and 2. the return of NAT'd broadband users to non-consumer (ie, potential server aka publisher) status. As always, Walker is worth a read. ------ "The right to be left alone - the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by civilized men." -- Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis

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Re: Liquidating the Mud People
by Freematt357＠aol.com 21 Sep '03

21 Sep '03

In a message dated 9/20/03 10:36:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, timcmay(a)got.net writes: > Me, I don't fly on Jet CIA Blue or Delta Delta Operations, or any other > of the Big Brother-controlled airlines. (And now they are financially > suffering and want citizen-unit taxes to bail them out... Any prediction when the police state fascism of the air will be exported to the interstate highway system? Personally I won't fly either, as I want to be treated as a customer and I refuse to be treated as a suspect. As a suspect the airlines can eat my seat. However, I refuse to be hog-tied so I travel around the US on the ground- I've encountered two travel concerns- One on I-10 outside of El Paso at a border patrol checkpoint- The Border Patrolman wanted to know where I had been and where I was going and what I had been doing...In short, intrusive none of their business questions. That time I was traveling from Phoenix to the French Quarter of New Orleans- The Fed wanted to know why I was using the southern route, so I said why not? At the time they were searching some hapless teenage boy's pickup so they waved me through. Interestingly I visited Mexico that trip and when I reentered the US I didn't even have to show ID. The guys at Customs and Immigration just waved me through after asking me where I'm from, albeit I look American. The other was at a Canadian border crossing on my way to Montreal. The Maple leafers have a database of American gun owners, as the customs guy asked me "You have a pistol?" to which I replied no. He asked again not believing me "You don't have a pistol???" Upon which I replied that is correct I don't have a pistol, I have pistols plural. My buddy traveling with me announced in a loud voice so the entire station could hear, of course we have pistols, and rifles too- That's what free people have and that's one of the reason's I'd never move to Canada. Naturally my car got searched with a fine toothed comb, but I added I wouldn't be stupid enough to bring my pistol. I spent considerable effort cleaning my car of any stray ammo, thinking what sort of post 9/11 hell I'd me in if they found a .308 or errant 9 mm. Speaking with Canadian customs however I discovered that I could have legally imported 5,000 rounds of ammo. Apparently people do so for hunting trips. Noteworthy is the unguarded St. Lawrence River with unguarded boats moored alongside the shore. We traveled alongside it on both sides of the border and thought how trivially easy it would be to cross undetected. It's not like the government efforts have to make sense. Regards, Matt Gaylor-

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Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger
by Major Variola (ret) 21 Sep '03

21 Sep '03

At 06:27 PM 9/20/03 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: >News services are reporting that US Troops, who have been holding regular >drunken parties at the Baghdad Zoo, have shot and killed the Zoo's rare >Bengal tiger. 1. The grunt found out that cats have no alpha cats 2. Nothing like boozing it up in a Moslem (ex)nation. At *least* the grunt wasn't *stoned* on cannabis or something evil like that. At 10:04 PM 9/9/03 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: > We have three or four distinct groups of cats living here that we feed. Two >in the house, two in the garage/greenhouse who once lived in the house but could >not resolve the dominance issue between one male in the house and one alpha >female now in the greenhouse. Then there are the more or less permanent two >females that live on and under the front porch, who also have serious unresolved >issues with the Mama Fritz of the greenhouse (who does get outside during the >day). Dominance also goes down the line, watching the 3 young offspring of one >of the porch ladies makes that pretty clear, one of those bosses the other two, <snip> Do you use PROMIS for Felines or the latest Orion Scientific codes to manage these relationships? Just curious; Ellison is on the phone trying to sell Oracle ID for cats. ..... If the chinese muslim priestgrunt was spying for Usama, maybe Wen-Ho was selling bahklava recipes to Saddam?

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Neo-Cons, Fundies, Feddies,Con-Artists (was re: "Useless Eaters")
by R. A. Hettinga 21 Sep '03

21 Sep '03

The "other context", more or less... Cheers, RAH who's hanging out on the irtheory list for no good reason and is, apparently, Ruthless Machiavellian... :-). ------- <http://www.transnational.org/pressinf/2003/pf189_NeoconsConartists.html> PressInfo 189, Neo-Cons, Fundies, Feddies, and Con-Artists PressInfo # 189 September 18, 2003 By Francis A. Boyle , TFF Associate Originally posted on the 'AALS Section on Minority Grps. mailing list' It is now a matter of public record that immediately after the terrible tragedy of 11 September 2001, U.S. Secretary of War Donald Rumsfeld and his pro-Israeli "Neoconservative" Deputy Paul Wolfowitz began to plot, plan, scheme and conspire to wage a war of aggression against Iraq by manipulating the tragic events of September 11th in order to provide a pretext for doing so.(1) Of course Iraq had nothing at all to do with September 11th or supporting Al-Qaeda. But that made no difference to Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, their Undersecretary of War Douglas Feith, Undersecretary of State John Bolton, and the numerous other pro-Israeli Neo-Cons inhabiting the Bush Jr. administration. These pro-Israeli Neo-Cons had been schooled in the Machiavellian/Nietzschean theories of Professor Leo Strauss who taught political philosophy at the University of Chicago in its Department of Political Science. The best exposN of Strauss's pernicious theories on law, politics, government, for elitism, and against democracy can be found in two scholarly books by the Canadian Professor of Political Philosophy Shadia B. Drury.(2) I entered the University of Chicago in September of 1968 shortly after Strauss had retired. But I was trained in Chicago's Political Science Department by Strauss's foremost protNgN, co-author, and later literary executor Joseph Cropsey. Based upon my personal experience as an alumnus of Chicago's Political Science Department (A.B., 1971, in Political Science), I concur completely with Professor Drury's devastating critique of Strauss. I also agree with her penetrating analysis of the degradation of the American political process that has been inflic! ted by Chicago's Straussian Neo-Con cabal. (3) The University of Chicago routinely trained me and innumerable other students to become ruthless and unprincipled Machiavellians. That is precisely why so many neophyte Neo-Con students gravitated towards the University of Chicago or towards Chicago Alumni at other universities. Years later, the University of Chicago became the "brains" behind the Bush Jr. Empire and his Ashcroft Police State. Attorney General John Ashcroft received his law degree from the University of Chicago in 1967. Many of his lawyers at the Bush Jr. Department of Injustice are members of the right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, and totalitarian Federalist Society (aka "Feddies"), (4) which originated in part at the University of Chicago. Feddies wrote the USA Patriot Act (USAPA) I and the draft for USAPA II, which constitute the blueprint for establishing an American Police State. (5) Meanwhile, the Department of Injustice's own F.B.I. is still covering up the U.S. governmental origins of the post! 11 September 2001 anthrax attack on Washington D.C. that enabled Ashcroft and his Feddies to stampede the U.S. Congress into passing USAPA I into law. (6) Integrally related to and overlapping with the Feddies are members of the University of Chicago "School" of Law-and-Kick-Them-in-the-Groin-Economics (e.g., Richard Posner, Frank Easterbrook, Richard Epstein,etc.), which in turn was founded upon the Market Fundamentalism of Milton Friedman, now retired but long-time Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago. Friedman and his "Chicago Boys" have raped, robbed, looted, plundered, and pillaged economies and their respective peoples all over the developing world. (7) This Chicago gang of academic con-artists and charlatans are proponents of the Nazi Doctrine of "useless eaters." Pursuant to Friedman's philosophy of Market Fundamentalism, the "privatization" of Iraq and its Oil Industry are already underway for the primary benefit of the U.S. energy companies (e.g., Halliburton, formerly under Vice President Dick Cheney) that had already interpenetrated the Bush Jr. administration as well as the Bush Family itself. Enron! . Although miseducated (8) at Yale and Harvard Business School, the "Ivies" proved to be too liberal for Bush Jr. and his fundamentalist Christian supporters, whose pointman and spearcarrier in the Bush Jr. administration was Ashcroft, a Fundie himself. The Neo-Cons and the Fundies contracted an "unholy alliance" in support of Bush Jr. For their own different reasons, both gangs also worked hand-in-hand to support Israel's genocidal Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, an internationally acknowledged war criminal. (9) According to his own public estimate and boast before the American Enterprise Institute, President Bush Jr. hired about 20 Straussians to occupy key positions in his administration, intentionally taking offices where they could push American foreign policy in favor of Israel and against its chosen enemies such as Iraq, Iran, Syria, and the Palestinians. (10) Most of the Straussian Neo-Cons in the Bush Jr. administration and elsewhere are Israel-firsters: What is "good" for Israel is by definition "good" for the United States. Dual loyalties indeed. (11) In addition, it was the Chicago Straussian cabal of pro-Israeli Neo-Cons who set up a special "intelligence" unit within the Pentagon that was responsible for manufacturing many of the bald-faced lies, deceptions, half-truths, and sheer propaganda that the Bush Jr. administration then disseminated to the lap-dog U.S. news media (12) in order to generate public support for a war of aggression against Iraq for the benefit of Israel and in order to steal Iraq's oil. (13) To paraphrase advice Machiavelli once rendered to his Prince in Chapter XVIII of that book: Those who want to deceive will always find those willing to be deceived. (14) As I can attest from my personal experience as an alumnus of the University of Chicago Department of Political Science, the Bible of Chicago's Neo-Con Straussian cabal is Machiavelli's The Prince . We students had to know our Machiavelli by heart and rote at the University of Chicago. As for the University of Chicago overall, its biblical Gospel is Allan Bloom's The Closing of the American Mind (1987). (15) Of course Bloom was another protNgN of Strauss, as well as a mentor to Wolfowitz. In his Bloom-biographical novel Ravelstein (2000) Saul Bellow, formerly on the University of Chicago Faculty, outed his self-styled friend Bloom as a hedonist, pederast, and most promiscuous homosexual who died of AIDS. All this was common knowledge at the University of Chicago, where Bloom is still worshiped and his elitist screed against American higher-education still revered on a pedestal. In Ravelstein Wolfowitz appeared as Bloom's protNgN Philip Gorman, leaking national security secrets to his mentor during the Bush Sr. war against Iraq. Strauss hovered around the novel as Bloom's mentor and guru Professor Davarr. Strauss/Davarr is really the Nminence grise of Ravelstein . With friends like Bellow, Bloom did not need enemies. On the basis of Ravelstein alone, Wolfowitz warrants investigation by the F.B.I. Just recently the University of Chicago officially celebrated its Bush Jr. Straussian Neo-Con cabal, highlighting Wolfowitz Ph.D. '72, Ahmad Chalabi, Ph.D. '69 (the CIA's Iraqi puppet), Abram Shulsky, A.M. '68, Ph.D. '72 (head of the Pentagon's special "intelligence" unit), Zalmay Khalilzad, Ph.D. '79 (Bush Jr's roving pro-consul for Afghanistan and then Iraq), as well as faculty members Bellow, X '39, and Bloom, A.B. '49, A.M. '53, Ph.D. '55, together with Strauss. According to the University of Chicago Magazine , Bloom's rant "helped popularize Straussian ideals of democracy." (16) It is correct to assert that Bloom's book helped to popularize Straussian "ideas," but they were blatantly anti-democratic, Machiavellian, Nietzschean, and elitist to begin with. Only the University of Chicago would have the unmitigated Orwellian gall to publicly assert that Strauss and Bloom cared one whit about democracy, let alone comprehended the "ideals of democracy." Does anyone seriously believe that a pro-Israeli Chicago/Strauss/Bloom product such as Wolfowitz could care less about democracy in Iraq? Or for that matter anyone in the Bush Jr. administration? After they stole the 2000 presidential election from the American People in Florida and before the Republican-controlled U.S. Supreme Court, some of whom were Feddies? (17) Justice Clarence Thomas is a Straussian to boot. (18) At the behest of its Straussian Neo-Con Political Science Department, in 1979 the entire University of Chicago went out of its way to grant the "first Albert Pick Jr. Award for Outstanding Contributions to International Understanding" to Robert "Mad Bomber" McNamara. (19) In other words, the University of Chicago itself maliciously strove to rehabilitate one of the greatest international war criminals in the post-World War II era. (20) Do not send your children to the University of Chicago where they will grow up to become warmongers like Wolfowitz or totalitarians like Ashcroft! The University of Chicago is an intellectual and moral cesspool. Endnotes 1. See, e.g., Rahul Mahajan, Full Spectrum Dominance 108 (2003). 2. Shadia B. Drury, The Political Ideas of Leo Strauss (1988); Leo Strauss and the American Right (1999). See also Alain Frachon & Daniel Vernet, The Strategist and the Philosopher: Leo Strauss and Albert Wohlstetter , Le Monde, April 16, 2003, translated into English by Norman Madarasz on Counterpunch.org., June 2, 2003. 3. See also David Brock, Blinded by the Right (2002). 4. George E. Curry & Trevor W. Coleman, Hijacking Justice , Emerge, October 1999, at 42; Jerry M. Landay, The Conservative Cabal That's Transforming American Law , Washington Monthly, March 2000, at 19; People for the American Way, The Federalist Society (August 2001); Institute for Democracy Studies, The Federalist Society and the Challenge to a Democratic Jurisprudence (January 2001). 5. Francis A. Boyle, Bush's Banana Republic , Counterpunch.org, Oct. 11, 2002. 6. Francis A. Boyle, Biowarfare, Terror Weapons and the U.S.: Home Brew? , Counterpunch.org, April 25, 2002. 7. See Greg Palast, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (2003), at 5 et seq. 8. See Chomsky on Miseducation (Donald Macedo ed. 2000). 9. Francis A. Boyle, Take Sharon to The Hague , Counterpunch.org, June 6, 2002. 10. White House Press Release, President Discusses the Future of Iraq , Washington Hilton Hotel, Feb. 26, 2003. 11. Nasser H. Aruri, Dishonest Broker, 193-216 (2003). See also Tanya Reinhart, Israel/Palestine (2002); Cheryl A. Rubenberg, The Palestinians (2003). 12. Norman Solomon, The Habits of Highly Deceptive Media (1999); Noam Chomsky, Media Control (1997). 13. Seymour M. Hersh, Selective Intelligence , New Yorker, May 8, 2003; Michael Lind, T he Weird Men Behind George W. Bush's War , New Statesman - London, April 7, 2003; Julian Borger, The Spies Who Pushed for War , The Guardian, July 17, 2003. 14. Machiavelli, The Prince 147 (M. Musa trans. & ed. 1964): ". . . and men are so simple-minded and so dominated by their present needs that one who deceives will always find one who will allow himself to be deceived." This Bilingual Edition of The Prince by Mark Musa was the one preferred by Joseph Cropsey to teach us students. 15. But see Lawrence W. Levine, The Opening of the American Mind (1996). 16. Between the Lines , University of Chicago Magazine, June 2003, at 54 17. Vincent Bugliosi, The Betrayal of America (2001); Greg Palast, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy 11-81 (2003). 18. Gerhard Sporl, The Leo-Conservatives , Der Spiegel, Aug. 4, 2003. 19. McNamara Receives Pick Award Amid Protests , University of Chicago Magazine, Summer 1979, at 4. 20. Noam Chomsky, Rethinking Camelot (1993); Robert S. McNamara, In Retrospect (1995). ' TFF 2003 Tell a friend about this article Send to: From: Message and your name You are welcome to reprint, copy, archive, quote or re-post this item, but please retain the source. Would you - or a friend - like to receive TFF PressInfo by email? 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"Useless Eaters"
by R. A. Hettinga 21 Sep '03

21 Sep '03

I'm shocked, simply shocked, to have the origin of the term "useless eaters" pointed out to me in another context: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22useless+eaters%22+nazi&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 "A good artist borrows. A great one steals." --Pablo Picasso Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "When the hares made speeches in the assembly and demanded that all should have equality, the lions replied, "Where are your claws and teeth?" -- attributed to Antisthenes in Aristotle, 'Politics', 3.7.2

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