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RE: C3 Nehemia C5P with better hardware RNG and AES support
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 27 Nov '03

27 Nov '03

coderman <coderman(a)charter.net> >I have written some poor code and info regarding the C5XL (nehemiah) and >linux: > > http://peertech.org/hardware/viarng/ I've got code to use it under Windows in the latest cryptlib snapshots (soon to be the 3.1 release), which you can grab via the download link at http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/cryptlib/index.html. The RNG code is in misc/rndwin32.c, and is available under a dual license (BSD or GPL, your choice). Note though that I don't actually have a C5XL to play with, so at the moment I've only been able to verify that it won't crash when run on AMD and Intel CPUs. If anyone has a C5XL with Windows installed, I'd be interested in hearing about any problems. Peter.

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Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)
by Tyler Durden 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Doesn't make sense. Votes are already bought and sold, but there's so many middle men taking their cuts in the form of military bases or whatnot that the enduser barely gets some. -TD >From: Tim May <timcmay(a)got.net> >To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com >Subject: Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld) >Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:18:42 -0800 > >On Nov 26, 2003, at 8:10 AM, BillyGOTO wrote: >>> >>>I have no problem with this free choice contract. >> >>You can't sell your vote for the same reason that Djinni don't >>grant wishes for "more wishes". > >A silly comment. I take it you're saying "Because the rules don't allow >it." Or something similar to this. > >The "rules" are precisely what we are discussing. > >And "vote buying" is much more widespread than what happens at the lowest >level we happen to be talking about here, where Alice is paid $10 to vote >for some particular candidate. In fact, vote buying is much more common and >more dangerous at the level of political representatives. > >Appealing to "the rules" (what your Djinni state as the rules) is >nonproductive. Payoffs and kickbacks can be declared illegal, but they >continue to happen in various ways. > > >> >>>You, in the rest of your comments, show yourself to be one of the many >>>tens of millions who probably need to be sent up the chimneys for their >>>crimes. >>> >>>Liberty's a mental chore, isn't it? >> >>Maybe I just don't understand Liberty. I need to meditate on it for a >>while. I'll use your image of tens of millions of "criminals" going up >>in smoke (myself included) as a starting point. >> >>PS: Is support of vote buying consistent with rejection of Democracy? >> > >Liberty is characterized in the .sig below: > > >""Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. >Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" >-- Ben Franklin _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)
by Nomen Nescio 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Cameras in the voting booth? Jesus Christ, you guys are morons. If you want to sell your vote, just vote absentee. The ward guy will even stamp and mail it for you. Happens every election.

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RE: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)
by Trei, Peter 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Miles Fidelman wrote: >Peter Trei wrote: >> All I want is a system which is not more easily screwed around with then >> paper ballots. >I think it's called OCR Actually, I think its called 'Optical Mark Sense'. >Paper ballots, marked by the voter, not by software, then counted by >software: >- the ballot and the audit document are one and the same - no opportunity >for software to mess with the printed record >- option for a quick and dirty recount by feeding the ballots through a >different counting machine (maybe with different software, from a >different vendor) >- further option for a manual recount of the original ballots (which are >probably more legible than any machine-printed receipts) >Oh, and by the way, these are the only kind of electronic voting machines >approved, so far, in Mass. >Miles Fidelman Indeed, thats where I live, and the tech we use. It pretty much fits all the requirements. The only complaints I've heard are: * It doesn't randomize the order of candidate presentation. * No provision for dealing with the blind.

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Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)
by Neil Johnson 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

On Tuesday 25 November 2003 01:21 pm, Trei, Peter wrote: [snip] > All I want is a system which is not more easily screwed around with then > paper ballots. Have some imagination - you could, for example, set things > up so the voter, and only the voter, can see the screen and/or paper > receipt while voting, but still make it impossible to use a camera without > being detected. > > Peter I was thinking of those boxes with viewing ports that you look into to get your eyes tested when you renew your drivers license. You could have those out in the open, that way you'd have the privacy (only turn the display on if the viewing port is completely covered), but if you tried to use a camera it would be pretty obvious (or you could design the lens of the port to make it impossible to discern the ballot except with the human eye(s)). Here in the sticks we just use the ole' number two pencil to fill in the oval. Some fancy polling places run the ballot through a reader to verify that there aren't any problems (missing ovals, multiple votes, etc.). They'll let you have three tries at it. However, there doesn't seem to be anything to stop me from going back in a few hours later and claiming to be someone else at a different address other than the if the person has already voted or by relying on steel-trap memory of the volunteer elderly ladies than man the poll (of course in our small town that can be pretty effective) :) . -Neil -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

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Re: Lucrative update
by Eric Murray 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Somoneone at monash.edu.au was resending old mails.

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Lucrative update
by R. A. Hettinga 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

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Lucrative update
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