- cypherpunks-legacy - lists.cpunks.org

Re: Dole web site cracked?
by Rich Burroughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:08 AM 10/7/96 -0500, "Bruce M." <bkmarsh(a)feist.com> wrote: >On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Black Unicorn wrote: > >> Actually, on further examination, looks like a cute little spoof, not a >> hack. >> >> The address for the actual dole page is : www.dolekemp96.org > > But, which one of these DNS entries looks more official? [snip] Heh. www.dolekemp96.org is definitely the address Dole gave at the close of the debate. The fact that the billing contact and one of the domain servers are at "getcaught.com" is perhaps just a fine bit of irony... I tried to connect to www.getcaught.com with no success, so I'm not sure what's there... Rich ______________________________________________________________________ Rich Burroughs richieb(a)teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~richieb See my Blue Ribbon Page at http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/blueribbon U.S. State Censorship Page at - http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/state New EF zine "cause for alarm" - http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/cause

1 0

Can somebody unsubscribe cyberpromo from CP?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think somebody subscribed that Cyberpromo organization to the Cypherpunks list. It needs to be unsubscribed... Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

4 3

NSA/GCSB spying shown on NZ television
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

20/20 today had a segment on the operation of the GCSB (Government Communications Security Bureau), the trading name of the NSA in New Zealand. This was motivated by the recent publication of Nicky Hagers book "Secret Power" which goes into great detail about the operation of the GCSB (it has floor plans of the monitoring stations, details of operations, staff, names and contact numbers, etc etc - it's a very well researched book covering the day-to-day running of an intelligence agency). In the 20/20 segment, Nicky and a reporter managed to get through the security perimeter at the Waihopai base with a camera and ladder, climbed up to the windows, and shot footage of the interior of the base through improperly-closed curtains. The main operations room had racks of equipment which is hard to identify (it's not a very good shot), along with tables containing PClone monitors and HP II's[1]. Unfortunately the resolution isn't good enough to show what's being displayed on the monitors. Another shot of an office showed a desk with Intelsat operations manuals, providing, for the first time, direct proof of whose traffic is being monitored - not the Russians, not the Chinese, but NZ's pacific neighbours and trading partners. The intercepted traffic is then passed straight back to the NSA for analysis. AFAIK there's never been any direct, documented proof of what these bases are intercepting - the dishes are pointed in the right direction for intercepting Intelsat transmissions, but the various agencies have been able to deny the nature of the interception. The footage of operations manuals on a desk would seem to prove beyond a doubt that the agencies are engaged in large-scale interception and monitoring of civilian communications. It was rather unfortunate that the program was shown at the same time as the political leaders debate on another channel (we have an election in four days time), because virtually noone will have watched 20/20. Peter. [1] Given that the windows looked like plain glass and that these things have a control zone that reaches halfway to Antarctica, I'd love to park outside the base with certain pieces of receiving equipment...

2 1

RE: WINDOWS NT ????
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 6 Oct 1996 11:39:53 +0100, Matthew Richardson wrote: >> Okay, correct me if I'm wrong on this (as if you wouldn't...): >> 1. Microsoft markets NT with C2 security >> 2. Numerous industry magazines report that you can bypass NTFS file >> security by booting off of a diskette and using NTFSDOS. >> 3. Numerous industry magazines (and I believe MS finally mentioned it >> in some routine status update) all say that NT should now be considered >> C2 *ONLY* on machines w/o floppy drives. > >Microsoft only claim C2 security when the machine is physically secured >and not attached to any network. Specifically NTFS makes no claim of any >encryption and can thus be read by non-NT software. Now. They used to claim C2 for a machine w/floppies. Now they don't. # Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp # <cadams(a)acucobol.com> | send mail with subject "send PGPKEY" "That's our advantage at Microsoft; we set the standards and we can change them." --- Karen Hargrove, Microsoft (quoted in the Feb 1993 Unix Review editorial)

1 0

Best-of-Crypto (was:this list is a joke)
by I~nigo Gonzalez 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > > "I~nigo Gonzalez" <nexus(a)adv.es> writes: > >> Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: >>> When I joined this mailing list, it had plenty of technical discussions >>> posted by people knowledgeable in cryptography. They have all since left. >> >> Where did they go?????? I want to read something _good_ not spam. >> What about coderpunks ???? > > There's some interesting discussion on coderpunks, but it's pretty > low-volume. There used to be interesting threads on cypherpunks - > I'm not awarae of any place where they continue. > Maybe we can build here (at adv.es) a Best-Of-Crypto mailing list... with the _same_ spirit we have now Best-Of-Security... I mean technical, relevant postings... Any comments ??? -- Iñigo González - ADV Internet Technical Advisor <nexus(a)adv.es> "Never say anything online that you wouldn't want to see on the front page of The New York Times." - alt.2600.moderated Posting

2 1

Re: Put up or shut up!
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:22 PM 10/6/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: > It turns out that I would save nothing in taxes by moving some of my liquid > assets to some particular coral atoll. (Unless I lie on my 1040, which is > always an option.) Hmmmm.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

1 0

Re: Put up or shut up!
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:18 AM 10/7/96 -0400, Black Unicorn wrote: > There is no > one good solution, and anyone who sells you a universal package is selling > you a bill of goods. Surely there is at least one good solution to an exceedingly common problem -- large assets in the US that are known to the authorities. > Careful, professional, and highest quality service is required to properly > design any investment design. Again, you get what you pay for. Smoke. The reason that no one publishes "How to" step by step instructions for discretely expatriating your money is exactly the same reason as the reason that nobody publishes "How to" step by step instructions for buying dope. For example one ever popular method of expatriating money, (or repatriating it to preferred politicians), is by means of a friendly cattle futures broker. First find your friendly cattle futures broker. Despite this, many people manage to buy dope and many people manage to discretely expatriate their money. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

2 1

Re: Can somebody unsubscribe cyberpromo from CP?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:43 PM 10/7/96 -0400, Simon Spero <ses(a)tipper.oit.unc.edu> wrote: >> >I think somebody subscribed that Cyberpromo organization to the Cypherpunks >> >list. It needs to be unsubscribed... >> >> "I have a solution." >[Looks through pockets] - 7 Zlotys, 1.5 DM, and 1.20 GBP says October >21st, in the library, bludgeoning to death with 20lbs of junk mail I tend to prefer 16-ton weights, myself.... "Safe!" >If I can get my key back, it's Key Recovery >If you can get my key back, it's Key Escrow If I can get my key back, it's a Spare Copy I Stashed Somewhere. If you can get my key back, it's Wimpy Encryption. If you've already got my key, it's Key Escrow. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk Imagine if three million people voted for somebody they _knew_, and the politicians had to count them all.

1 0

Re: Missionaries (was: "Mormon Asshole?" re: GAK)
by craigw＠dg.ce.com.au 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Most ppl believe what they are told to believe. Otherwise why would there be so many ppl willing to take whatever the Govt servers them. Afterall...The madia would not lie...;) > attila <attila(a)primenet.com> sez: > > why would any rational individual espouse ANY cause he thought was > > wrong! ,'~``. \|/ ,'``~. (-o=o-) (@ @) ,(-o=o-), +--.oooO--(_)--Ooo-----oOO-(_)-OOo-------oooO--(_)--Oooo.------+ | | | Soon, we may all be staring at our computers, wondering | | whether they're staring back. | | | | [Network Admin For WPA Business Products. aka doshai >;-) ] | | .oooO http://pip.com.au/~doshai/ Oooo. | | ( ) Oooo. .oooO ( ) | +-----\ (----( )-------oooO-Oooo--------( )--- ) /---------+ \_) ) / \ ( (_/ (_/ \_) Key fingerprint = 2D F4 54 BB B4 EA F1 E7 B6 DE 48 92 FC 8D FF 49 Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key. (if I want to give it to you)

4 4

RE: WINDOWS NT ????
by craigw＠dg.ce.com.au 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The machine CAN have a floppy...but it must NOT be bootable. If the floppy is able to be used to boot, than it is not C2 complient. Remember C2 is not out of the box. Being C2 certified means that the machine can be MADE to fulfil orange book requirements, not that it is automatically secure. A machine can have a floppy, but it must than subsequently be removed or unable to be booted before it is C2. This is not just floppies, but CD Rom drives etc as well. It must be configured to boot from ONLY the secured devices Craig > > Now. They used to claim C2 for a machine w/floppies. Now they don't. > ,'~``. \|/ ,'``~. (-o=o-) (@ @) ,(-o=o-), +--.oooO--(_)--Ooo-----oOO-(_)-OOo-------oooO--(_)--Oooo.------+ | | | Soon, we may all be staring at our computers, wondering | | whether they're staring back. | | | | [Network Admin For WPA Business Products. aka doshai >;-) ] | | .oooO http://pip.com.au/~doshai/ Oooo. | | ( ) Oooo. .oooO ( ) | +-----\ (----( )-------oooO-Oooo--------( )--- ) /---------+ \_) ) / \ ( (_/ (_/ \_) Key fingerprint = 2D F4 54 BB B4 EA F1 E7 B6 DE 48 92 FC 8D FF 49 Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key. (if I want to give it to you)

1 0