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unwanted AIP mail?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone else suddenly start hearing from these folks? > Date: Fri, 1 Dec 95 14:44:34 EST > From: physnews(a)aip.org (AIP listserver) > Message-Id: <9512011944.AA12171(a)aip.org> > To: physnews-mailing(a)aip.org > Subject: update.250 > X-UIDL: 817946091.001 > > PHYSICS NEWS UPDATE > The American Institute of Physics Bulletin of Physics News > Number 250 December 1, 1995 by Phillip F. Schewe and Ben > Stein > > TWO-BIT QUANTUM LOGIC GATES have been experimentally {...}

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Talking to Jim
by wiltship＠iccu6.ipswich.gil.com.au 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Gidday all I emailed Jim Clark day before yesterday about his comments re key escrow. He responded. As it's not good form to post private email, might I suggest that one of the 'elders' here put to Jim a list of questions on the proviso that his answers can be posted to the list. You never know, a lot of speculation might be confirmed or denied. cheers Peter Flight to Quality Wiltshire Productions Pty Ltd Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Intl Voice 61 7 3376 3535 Intl Fax 61 7 3279 4027 Email wiltship(a)gil.com.au PGP Key ID 3E584C7D PGP Fingerprint 01 03 FB F4 BE F8 2B F3 5D 84 6B 69 37 80 FE 10

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apachessl info
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "James A. Donald" <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote: >>At 11:32 PM 12/2/95 -0800, sameer wrote: >> I hate to repeat myself, but sometimes people don't listen. >>http://www.c2.org/apachessl/ >This Web page fails to explain what Apache-SSL actually is, what it is good >for, >and why people should use it. What I missed was the how-to on getting a certified key. Wasn't there a way of doing that through e-world (Apple's on-line service) for free? Wilhelm Busch -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMMI8XYiUi5SQtQ3tAQFplQf/Ua4/xmkbLRkDCqK1ws6HkhG4IyzFIz0r ESxaEXme6Ev9jTIzQtR+Stabi31H1hbMwkOR/MKSxx9vhuCpzX4PrKtjaMpugXMy nJ6voHmveZd4gErQJ6TM9X42TroaypDa/lL6Bc9UGAGoMAl37tst/jzL3l11iRfO OLKrsL9rDRtwu50sdulqEhrbphuTZriPuReDR5ZluAwZzsDcu8Upor1DIP9W+bVu zYTziaFmHAigP/dJOyi6x/Zd6aDoIl2U55YfQ+Pa3RUyarDVIjcnR/D6N8NeB7Cr XSZo78T9mG4JygZItY86z9Ct5vL1o1MzSNcm3KmuUwuyYOJcGUlddg== =Jry0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQEPAzC9XzIAAAEIAMJ9b1kiyvrhoa5OGf7G1hSt6yWmzX7napWo5qRAh+xUE+Ue ftxUmGE1p/lFoUJIRKhH2I0yktcp3Wirmm61rIfJ5S0s9BnE3W+Uk8B1jxim2JvZ ezOPn0so+dUJP4tvtzDQZDCk5VGTsJkMAvhxahripQKpkWC5qL9nM9cvKa2ZnFjT 8NRaaAx1eMST/k4ntc431jFXNgnBDrxNBb8RNMb7b7jtFGOFN8Y3Mj5TmprXps2V ydtL57Z85MKfFjkAMeMtugqieJBWEsqA3C1/wKhB9cKb1Rdu/97VpZ0v+FQe9Y1k qwsQ78chNzBpfHjxSSuo8T4NV0AZiJSLlJC1De0AEQEAAbQNV2lsaGVsbSBCdXNj aA== =/fpw -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Netscape gives in to key escrow
by Jay Campbell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Gee, and Tim May didn't get a new ISP when his current PC-ISP canceled >his Usenet access because of his protected speech and then gave it back >only if he included a disclaimer on his messages. Fire away, Cypherpunks!!! Get your facts straight before spewing this nonsense to the masses. There's not an ounce of reality reflected anywhere in that whole sentence. -- Jay Campbell edge(a)got.net - Operations Manager -=-=-=-=-=-=- Sense Networking, Santa Cruz Node Jay(a)Campbell.net got.net? PGP MIT KeyID 0xACAE1A89 "On the Information Superhighway, I'm the guy behind you in this morning's traffic jam leaning on his horn."

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Java Cup International -- $1,000,000 in prizes
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Wouldn't it be fun to win an UltraSPARC for writing some free code to secure Java applications? The catch is: No entries can use encryption! I wonder how they expect electronic commerce, security, or micropayment systems without encryption. See the Official Rules. -- John] Sun Microsystems has announced the JAVA Cup International, a contest to promote the creation and public availability of small, platform-independent applications called JAVA applets. Software developers will compete to develop the most innovative and creative applets. The JAVA Cup International contest begins immediately and ends March 31, 1996. Who's Eligible: Developer community including business, academic, and individual programmers worldwide. Prizes: Prizes will total $1,000,000 in Sun equipment (U.S. list) distributed among winners. One grand prize and three prizes per category (two individual prizes and one team prize). The first 1,000 to submit entries will receive a Java Coffee Cup & T-Shirt. Categories: Productivity Tools, Internet/Web Agents, Educational, Developer Tools, Entertainment and Games, Unlimited. Judging Criteria: Best Graphics, System Friendliness, Clean Code, Security, Reliability, Interactivity, Innovation. Check out http://javacontest.sun.com for complete details.

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Re: GAK Flap Happening at a Good Time--Journalists Read!
by carolann＠censored.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have been to Congress. I have lobbied them personally. Oct 2nd & 3rd was when. It wasn't easy. I also spent time in the Press Galleries. That was even harder. I will be there next October, and will be credentialed for all four of the different galleries. Mr. Jeff get real. You company is now on the record for GAK. It hadn't until then. But now you are. Now all the lower levels can decry what Mr. Clark said, but the damage is already done. And....if you're not, Mr. Jeff, this being the electronic age and all, why not get Mr. Clark to clarify it, muddy it, or downright repudiate it as a misquote or something. I'd love to see that. So would a lot of others. But somehow I don't think that is gonna happen. Love Always, Carol Anne ps censored.org is now running ftp at 206.42.112.96 on an intermittent basis using serveu1.1 >Black Unicorn wrote: >> >> On Sat, 2 Dec 1995, Jeff Weinstein wrote: -- Member Internet Society - Certified BETSI Programmer - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann(a)censored.org 206.42.112.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [017/713] ------------------- M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M MF=O0H+*%(-S%&>S%+FS&<LS%3(Q&#W1"<]2%`H^;,]^1C$'HBN8PX$4SYAU^ MPGD<Q0ZLA0D+,`MCT!LA**4M[-JPAK9F?40!AJ,CW"'%DR#:'9?Q)3[%<DQ` ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/

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Re: Info on Netscape's key escrow position
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"jsw(a)netscape.com" "Jeff Weinstein" 2-DEC-1995 19:58:15.80 E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: > I believe that the central question at hand is whether Netscape will > incorporate mandatory GAK into any of its products if you have an economic > (governmental purchase) rather than physical (governmental threat of violence) > reason to do so. I would hope that the upcoming statement will clarify this > position, and in the proper direction. If the government wants to purchase software for its own use that implements key escrow, why it that bad? The whole point of our anti-GAK position is that government mandated key escrow is bad. If individuals, companies, or government agencies want to escrow their own keys, with the escrow agents of their own choosing, I have not problem. Its only when the government make the escrow and the agent mandatory that I've got a problem. -------------------- I apologize for my lack of clarity. I would agree with you on voluntary escrow. My meaning in "governmental purchase" is that governments may use tactics such as directing purchases to companies that cooperate with their agenda. In other words, instead of properly spending the taxpayers' money on the best browser, server, etcetera available, they may exclude programs produced by a company not incorporating mandatory GAK. -------------------- I don't believe that Netscape will ship a product that mandates GAK unless it was required by law to do so. As long as it is legal to sell non-escrowed crypto products in this country or elsewhere, I think we will keep doing it, because that is what our customers want. -------------------- I am glad that your information leads you to this belief. However, I would still prefer that the official company statement include a clear section on this matter. (I would also, of course, prefer that this section be clearly against GAK; Jim Clark's claim that there are any circumstances under which a private citizen's communications should be tapped gives me cause to doubt.) -Allen

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No Subject
by dima＠cuix.pscu.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

|=========================Hello!=====================================| | My name is Dmitriy Stepanchuk and I'm student of Kentridge HS. | | I have an assignment for school to interview with an expert. | | My subject is Cellular Systems and how are they work. | | If you don't mind and are able to answer following question please | | fill up the blanks, and I will appreciate that. | |======================= Thank you!!! ===============================| Please put your Name: ..................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) What is a Cellular System? ..................................................................... ..................................................................... ..................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) How long is the distance between each cell? ..................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) What is the most important thing about using cell phones? ..................................................................... ..................................................................... ..................................................................... ..................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) How do you program cell phones? Can you program the phone to another channel? ..................................................................... ..................................................................... ..................................................................... ..................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) What is the frequency of the cell phone? ..................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) Is it possible to get on the same channel for two phones? Why? ..................................................................... ..................................................................... ..................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) What percentage of the people in US are using cell phones? ..................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) What is the output power for the portable phones? ..................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) Is it possible to call toll-free numbers from cell phone? ..................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) Will I be able to use my cell phone in other countries? If not why? ..................................................................... ----- Don't forget to use "message quoting" when you reply ---------- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That's it!! Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Diskless "Eunuchs" Machines Likely to Fail
by James M. Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friend, 12 03 95 Edupage reports: SUN PLANS JAVA-LIKE MICROKERNEL Sun Microsystems is already working on a microkernel-like operating system to run low-tech "Internet appliances." Dubbed Java OS, Sun's chief technical officer Eric Schmidt calls it the "natural next step" for Java. The new software will "take the Java classes and put them on the mini- mum OS functionality you need. You can add additional functionality by writing in Java," he says. It will require only 4 to 8 Mbytes of memory, and will not support Windows applications or other programs that make large demands on system memory. "This thing doesn't come with Sound Blaster and speakers. If you need a PC, buy a PC," says Schmidt. (Information Week 4 Dec 95 p104) The condescending tone illustrates the points made by wfgodot(a)iquest.com on 11 30 95: It seems that many corporate types are fixated on the idea of tractable and predictable consumers. [snip] The approach to understanding the actual dynamics of why people are and will increasingly come into this space and what they will want to do once they get there is deficient for many. [snip] Others are puzzled, or are overtly threatened by the idea of potential consumer's who are also content producers. Cordially, Jim

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SEN_sor
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

12-4-95. NYPeeper: "The Rand Corporation salutes E-mail as the new foundation of democracy." Denise Caruso's column. Are we ready, as a society, for ubiquitous Government- mandated electronic communication? Not yet. E-mail today does not have the same constitutional free-speech and privacy protections already afforded the telephone and postal mail. In addition, free speech on the Net is far from assured. There are several bills pending in Congress right now that would severely restrict what people can say in either private or public forums on the Internet. Despite Rand's finding that virtual communities are powerful tools for democratic discourse, it will be difficult for communities to form under constant threat of censorship. "Java Backers Taking Aim At Microsoft's Dominance." A number of Silicon Valley companies plan announcements on Monday that together constitute an anti-Microsoft campaign. The most noteworthy: A plan by Sun and Netscape for a user-friendly version of the Java software technology for the Web. The strategies being announced this week represent opening skirmishes in what may be the next great standards battle in the industry. "Nearing the $500 Computer for Internet Use." Acorn is about to introduce a stripped-down machine for Net surfing that sells for about $900. By stripping it of its monitor and hard disk drive, and adding a high-speed modem, Acorn executives say they can hit a retail price less than $500. They plan to ship the Netsurfer by early next year, and are discussing licensing with Oracle and a number of American and Asian companies. SEN_sor (16 kb)

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