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Re: DD, pedophiles, and Terrorists, oh my
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:21 PM 9/14/95 -0400, Phill wrote: >Yes, I was specificaly refering to hard core images depicting intercourse with >minors, including very young children. This was injected into the USEnet over a >period of about 3 months from a number of sites. I do not know if the persons >arrested today are the alledged source. Anybody interesting in doing a FOIA to find out whether the government is posting them? For that matter, is the Post Office, as a semi-non-governmental organization, subject to FOIA? #--- # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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More on ECheques
by John Hemming CEO MarketNet 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Version 0.1 (beta) of WorkHorse has now been put on the ftp site together with instructions as to how to use it to pay for things with ECheques. You are welcome to test ECheques on our live floristry service. To do this: 1. Download WorkHorse ftp://193.119.26.70/mktnet/pub/horse.zip 2. Follow the instructions for generating a key. a) Generate Key System/security/key gen (please use 512 bits) b) Specify your user details Alter/my details (put in a bank a/c no) 3. Don't worry about registering the key (unless you really want the flowers and have a BankNet account) 4. Try http://alpha.mkn.co.uk/load ordflow .. or http://beta.mkn.co.uk/load ordflow .. or http://epsilon.mkn.co.uk/load ordflow 5. Don't fill in credit card details . Please put a name of Test or testing. Click the button for ECheque (or electronic cheque) 6. Send the form. If you can easily trace the conversation it will be interesting. The system will automatically go into SSL with 128 bit RC4. It will generate a signed instruction and transmit that in the secure session. If you want to see how the form works save the html source. You can set it up on another server and receive the signed instruction yourself if you want. You can use workhorse to check the signature. (The first live ECheque was issued on Wednesday).

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Re: NSA on GAK
by Erik E. Fair 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 16:25 9/14/95, Rich Salz wrote: >>> Internet runs on software distributed over the Internet. > >This is more like an aphorism than a true statement. Um, not really. I dunno about you, but I don't bother to get new ROMs from cisco for each new software release - I FTP the code over the net, and write it into flash RAM in the routers (or net boot it). So, in fact, there are many sites (and backbones) for which that statement is literally true. Erik Fair P.S. And yes, cisco does publish MD5 hashes of their binaries.

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Re: Why ecash is traceable
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:47 AM 9/15/95, Donald M. Kitchen wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Excellent discussion on the subject, actually. However, your idea of >the "first person to the bank" maintaining anonymity via remailer block >is flawed. First of all, if a collusion with the bank is being taken into >account, presumably sufficient enough resources are involved that someone >may try and track the reply block. Mixmaster (as your messages mentioned >by name) would be necessary to eliminate the chance of tracking the block >through combinations of replay attacks etc. (Which reminds me, has anyone Just to clarify a minor point, I mentioned "mixes," not Mixmaster. I have nothing against Mixmaster, but "mix" is the term Chaum invented for what we later started to call a "remailer." --Tim May ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: More on ECheques
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Version 0.1 (beta) of WorkHorse has now been put on the ftp site together > with instructions as to how to use it to pay for things with ECheques. > > You are welcome to test ECheques on our live floristry service. To > do this: > > 1. Download WorkHorse ftp://193.119.26.70/mktnet/pub/horse.zip > 2. Follow the instructions for generating a key. > a) Generate Key System/security/key gen (please use 512 bits) > b) Specify your user details Alter/my details (put in a bank a/c no) [...] If a random person called you on the phone, and asked for one of your bank account numbers, would you give it to him/her? Peter Trei Senior Software Engineer Purveyor Development Team Process Software Corporation http://www.process.com trei(a)process.com

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"Use implies consent to monitoring"
by Rishab Aiyer Ghosh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In the InterNIC notice on fees for domain names that marks the end of an era, (http://rs.internic.net/announcements/fee-policy.html) I noticed this gem of a postscript: Please be advised that use constitutes consent to monitoring (Elec Comm Priv Act, 18 USC 2701-2711). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Indian Techonomist - newsletter on India's information industry http://dxm.org/techonomist/ rishab(a)dxm.org Editor and publisher: Rishab Aiyer Ghosh rishab(a)arbornet.org Vox +91 11 6853410; 3760335; H 34 C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA

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RE: Mixmaster status
by loki＠obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:58 AM 9/15/95, Russell Nelson wrote: <SNIP> > While I have not discussed it, I can not imagine that there would not also > be a free version of the server code (with source). Without remailers what > is the point of the client software? > >I'm confused here. Isn't every copy of mixmaster potentially a client >and/or server? That seems to me to be one of the beautiful aspects of >mixmaster -- run a remailer and you greatly increase your own privacy. > > I would like to see that continue, although I think that the Windows and Mac versions are likely to be client only. Since I am putting my reputation behind those statements, I don't want to box myself in. -Lance ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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San Diego Cypherpunks Physical Meeting
by Chris Claborne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

San Diego Area CPUNKS symposium Thursday, Sep. 21, 1995 Invitation to all Cypherpunks to join the San Diego crowd at "The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop" were I hope to get an update of Lance Cottrell's new anonymous e-mail server, "mixmaster", exchange keys. Don't forget to bring your public key fingerprint. If you can figure out how to get it on the back of a business card, that would be cool. Hopefully Lance Cottrell will give us an update on Mixmaster 2.0.2 Place: The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop 3795 Mission Bl in Mission Beach. 488-9060 Time:1800 Their Directions: 8 west to Mission Beach Ingram Exit Take west mission bay drive Go right on Mission Blvd. On the corner of San Jose and mission blvd. It is located between roller coaster and garnett. It's kind of 40s looking building... funky looking (their description, not mine) They serve stuff to eat, coffee stuff, and beer. See you there! New guy, bring your fingerprint. Drop me a note if you plan to attend. NOTE: My e-mail address, "chris.claborne(a)sandiegoca.attgis.com" permanently replaces my .ncr.com address. Both address work for now but NCR address will eventually be killed. 2 -- C -- ... __o .. -\<, Chris.Claborne(a)SanDiegoCA.ATTGIS.Com ...(*)/(*). CI$: 76340.2422 http://bordeaux.sandiegoca.attgis.com/ PGP Pub Key fingerprint = A8 FA 55 92 23 20 72 69 52 AB 64 CC C7 D9 4F CA Avail on Pub Key server. PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome!

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NTSC version BBC-4 show (cryptography/privacy)
by baum＠apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have a copy of the recent BBC 4 show on cryptography & privacy, transferred from PAL to NTSC so it can be watched here. Anyone who wants to borrow it (& lives in the SF Bay area) is welcome to email/call me to arrange to borrow it. ************************************************** * Allen J. Baum tel. (408)974-3385 * * Apple Computer, MS/305-3B fax (408)974-0907 * * 1 Infinite Loop * * Cupertino, CA 95014 baum(a)apple.com * **************************************************

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Re: Commercial Mixmaster (was Re: Mixmaster status)
by droelke＠rdxsunhost.aud.alcatel.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> With the caveat that I Am Not A Lawyer, it seems to me that the GNU General > Public License (Version 1 from 1989, Mix/GNU.license in the Mixmaster .tar or > http://hopf.math.nwu.edu/docs/Gnu_License) which covers all extant > distributions of Mixmaster, has some significant implications for any > commercial development of Mixmaster. It's applicable to "the Program or any > derivative work under copyright law: that is to say, a work containing the > Program or a portion of it, either verbatim or with modifications and/or > translated into another language". > Most common mis-understanding about the GPL. If you GPL something, *you* hold the copyright to the material, and can still do anything you want with it. See Perl for a good example - released under an artistic license and under GPL. GPL prevents *others* from making distributions without distributing the source code. Of course, if you accept GPL'ed patches to your code, the whole thing gets messy, as now you can't claim complete ownership of the entire code base. I have simplified this - go to gnu.misc.discuss for a complete rehash of this subject every 2-3 weeks. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Oelke Alcatel Network Systems droelke(a)aud.alcatel.com Richardson, TX

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