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RE: NIST KEY ESCROW MEETING
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 19:58:52 -0800 To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com From: shamrock(a)netcom.com (Lucky Green) Subject: Re: NIST Key Escrow meeting At 7:51 8/30/95, Flame Remailer wrote: >Subject: NIST Key Escrow Meeting Discussion Papers > >Key Escrow Issues Meeting, September 6-7, 1995 >Discussion Paper #1 [Old and new GAK requirenments elided] >With your input, we are hopeful that this effort will lead to >definitive criteria, which will facilitate the development of >exportable products and help minimize the time required to obtain >export licenses. The Administration seeks to finalize such >criteria and make formal conforming modifications to the export >regulations before the end of 1995. > > >Note: These issues will be discussed at the Key Escrow Issues >Meeting to be held September 6-7, 1995 (9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.) at >the National Institute of Standards and Technology (Gaithersburg, >Maryland). The meeting will be open to the public, although >seating is limited. Advance registration is requested, please >contact Arlene Carlton on 301/975-3240, fax: 301/948-1784 or e- >mail: carlton(a)micf.nist.gov. Will any Cypherpunks attend this meeting? I sure hope we get to make our ideas know. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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A problem with anonymity
by sjb＠austin.ibm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 18:32:01 -0500 From: Scott Brickner <sjb(a)austin.ibm.com> I was thinking about some issues related to electronic commerce, and it occurred to me that there is a significant problem in conducting business with untraceable pseudonyms (anonyms?). The problem occurred to me while considering inheritance. If one operates a business under an anonym (as opposed to the sort of conditionally traceable pseudonym proposed by AT&T in "Anonymous Credit Cards" <URL:ftp://ftp.research.att.com/dist/anoncc/anoncc.ps.Z>), there's a strategy for transferring unlimited funds to one's posterity. Consider a business which typically has a lot of assets, but which are offset by a lot of liabilities --- almost any sort of VAR will do, for instance. In your will, you leave the key to unlock a private message to your heir, in which you hand over the information necessary to assume your anonym. Since the heir presumably has his own identity (whether anonymous or not is immaterial, except to *his* heirs), and the anonym can't be linked to you, he has no reason to care about maintaining the reputation of the anonym. In dismantling the anonym, he sells its assets to his own identity at a fraction of their worth, and defaults on the liabilities. Since the anonym behaved reputably during its life, it developed what would have been a credit-worthy reputation, had it been a (traceable) pseudonym. But, since there's nothing to link the anonym to its heirs (or ancestors), the creditors of the anonym must eat the loss. Since the process of taking an anonym from scratch to a positive reputation would be reasonably short (presumably not too much longer than taking a real name or pseudonym the same distance), especially when helped along by being fed the profits from the legitimate business of an ancestor anonym, it's likely that a single individual could pull off such an asset transfer at least two or three times a decade, as well as at inheritance time. A market which permits anonyms to have credit based on reputation will probably have a constant stream of defaults caused by such behavior, representing a significant risk factor in extending credit to anonyms which can't be predicted by reputation. Comments?

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GAK Ploy
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Markoff reports today on the latest GAK ploy: http://jya.com/gak-door.htm Excerpts: Government officials disputed the idea that requiring decoding technology would necessarily mean the technology would be used. "There is nothing about putting this enabling technology into law that will inevitably lead to it being turned on," said Robert Litt, a Deputy Assistant United States Attorney. The Administration is now moving on an effort to block legislation [SAFE] that is to be considered this week by the house Intelligence and National Security Committees. That legislation would end Government control over cryptographic systems. The Administration proposal is being offered as an amendment to that bill.

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Re: GAK Ploy
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> "There is nothing about putting this enabling technology > into law that will inevitably lead to it being turned on," > said Robert Litt, a Deputy Assistant United States > Attorney. Is this list turning into some kind of comedy club. Litt (rhymes with ..) couldn't lie straight in bed. I spose implanting a nuclear devise up clit-ons ass doesn't necessarily mean that it will inevitably lead to it being turned on..just that most people would like to see that happen while he's in Washington DC.

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Re: Removing Tyranny from Democracy (Part II), (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: amp(a)pobox.com > Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 22:49:25 -0500 > Subject: Re: Removing Tyranny from Democracy (Part II), (fwd) > > From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> > > > >Please be so kind as to detail your top three flaws... > > 1. In a democracy, 51% of the people can vote to enslave the other 49% Not in this democracy they don't. In every democracy currently extant there is a bill of rights. The government may not respect it, but that is a flaw of implimentation not theory. > 2. In a democracy, you can't have property rights because 51% can > capriciously decide to confiscate anyone's property. See above. > 3. A pure democracy is true mob rule - a mob has no concience, or bounds to > it's tyranny. Look into the history of ancient Athens. Since there are no true democracies extant your point is moot. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: MIME
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:24 AM 9/21/95 +0000, shields(a)tembel.org (Michael Shields) wrote: >> >I think that it must be the content-type that is causing problems, >> Yes, I agree. Make it something like ASCII text >But it's not text/plain. It's PGP'ed text/plain. The only way to >indicate this in MIME is with a content-type. (Yes, they're working on >a general way to encapsulate encryption.) Part of the problem is that application/pgp is being used both for encrypted data and also for clearsigned data, which really have different handling needs. With clearsigned, you might want to read it, but might also want to PGP it. One possibility is to do multipart messages with the body in one part and a detached signature in another. #--- # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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Re: Nuclear Hedge Funds / Social Engineering in History / Wiretap DiFi
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:14 PM 9/9/97 -0400, declan wrote: > ... >I'd like to ask that if anyone is planning to Nuke Washington, they >politely let me know so I can go on an extended business trip to the >Montana mountains. I mean, it's just common courtesy! ... What? And have another Juy Falkes Disaster? One of Guy Falkes co-conspirators warned a parlament member who happened to be Catholic to stay clear on the appointed day, that is how word got out. You would feel compelled to tell your closest friends. Who would, if they didn't just blab outright, tell others that they might want to leave. Ultimately, someone who dates a congressional aide will tell the aide, who having a certain loyalty to the congressperson would warn the congressperson, etc... No, it's best that you die. But at least you'll die a martyr.

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[NOISE] Re: NYT on Netscape Crack
by Rob Vaughn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perry sez: >I'll pay for the "I broke Netscape's Security" T-Shirt for the >enterprising person that takes the time to find them in the object >code. (See Sameer's page on the shirts he's developing as prizes for >the Netscape flaw finders.) I find it very ironic that a company that recently raised about a gadzillion dollars through a public stock offering has been able to sit back and let people find problems with their software for free. Now people like Sameer and Perry are offering rewards for it. Kudos to them, but I think Netscape should be the one making an offer like this. A textbook author/prof who taught a class using his own book had a great method for finding mistakes in the new edition: he had us buy the current edition and gave us copies of each chapter of the new edition as we got to it, then he offered a $10 reward for each typo or mistake found, and a $100 dinner for two and credit in the new edition to whomever found the most mistakes by the end of the semester. I made $160 before I had to drop the class due to a schedule conflict. In the end, he said he was able to find over 100 errors, and considered it the cheapest and most thorough proofreading he'd ever paid for. And the class got a big charge out of it. Netscape should be offering rewards for people who find problems with their software. They'll get a lot of hard work for almost free (since you only get paid if you do find something) and in a year or two they'll have one of the most solid applications on the market. Lord knows it'll help raise public confidence too. If a tee-shirt motivates people, think what $US 1000 reward would do. Or $e 2000 in credit towards goods purchased through Netscape commercial servers? Rob V.

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Crypto *import* ban?
by Brad Dolan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What exactly does a ban on import of "defense articles and services" which are not in "furtherance of world peace" mean? Could you ban crypto imports? Imports of chopped liver? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Here is a final rule issued by ATF regarding the import of "defense articles" into the United States. It appears in the Federal Register at 60 FR 47866 (9/15/950). This becomes a regulation in the Code of Federal Regulations, Title 27 CFR, part 47, Importation of Arms. Sec. 47.52 Import restricitons applicable to certain countries. (a) It is the policy of the United States to deny licenses and other approvals with respect to defense articles and defense services originating in certain countries or areas. This policy applies to Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Mongolia, North Korea, Sudan, Syria, Vietnam, and the States that comprise the former Soviet Union [list of countries omitted]. This policy applies to countries or areas with respect to which the United States maintains an arms embargo [list of countries omitted]. It also applies when an import would not be in furtherance of world peace and the security and foreign policy of the United States. [end excerpt]

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DH in IE and NT
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Microsoft will use Diffie-Hellman in Internet Explorer 4.0 and Windows NT. See: http://www.cylink.com/html/microsoft.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNBbQejltEBIEF0MBAQFqowf+MnienInvTNqib8YfVxKXLQMpw17yymA2 YRlXalaClmwMnE2LzMwBKqwC9wFm+FPNWIAz8q5O36+k9IEDepCVazZpyar64/En HhUZ+7F8ZGnuxvNScDBhexxUFkSAU/fuPRcqETZIMwE1kHIBGkVO/28KBF+MJ8Aj engwErZi6lFHMqiS8378/iyJ01wxRmMqI2sMTeF7Ub8kWMh7bEq24y9xF8mRVwsg DAguXZsagGapgB/pIqT/L4xP2uBIxYCKrqCJw6KtB9tsffraw9NHBzvkaZn1d7bo c2V7GF4adk6BE4oFmdjRa03o6j0nr8sKpHPlHlxo1hmslZ8fjPxTWQ== =LXf8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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