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Careful with subkeys - Re: Hi again, and an invitation to kibitz
by peter.allan＠aeat.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Amanda Walker wrote: > I'm considering DES-EDE (the easy option), Blowfish (also pretty easy), > or the DES variant Bruce Schneier describes in Applied Cryptography, 2nd ed. > (the one with independent subkeys). This might be a bad idea. Rumor has it that independent subkeys are eaten alive by related-key attacks (not very practical usually). I think I saw this in a post by Matt Blaze about last November on coderpunks. That post suggested 2 key schedule strategies: 1) planned, like DES, by people who know how a particular schedule affects related-key attacks 2) scrambled, like Turtle & Blowfish, so that key bits all depend on each other in a messy way I mark the margin of my AC book with snippets like this. I don't seem to have kept the post in question. -- Peter Allan peter.allan(a)aeat.co.uk

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Seen Your Post!
by Garry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Airport security [no such thing]
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:11 PM 1/15/97 -0700, C. Kuethe wrote: >Yeah... took the words outta my mouth. Let's all write to the FAA, DOT, etc. >and tell them what morons they are... sorry tell them that they need work. No >more Lockerbies, TWA800's and other such tragedies. Write them? Why? How are they going to prevent someone from boarding with a bottle of aftershave containing the extra strong flavor? A bottle that will be left in the seat? One could cut open the seat if need be. [Dozens of other examples omitted in the interest of brevity.] -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred Make your mark in the history of mathematics. Use the spare cycles of your PC/PPC/UNIX box to help find a new prime. http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm

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ARKANSAS BANS PHONE SCRAMBLERS
by John C. Randolph 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It figures. It's Fuehrer Clinton's home state, isn't it? Somedays, this shit just makes me want to give up on the USA, and emigrate to Anguila. -jcr begin forwarded message: Date: January 15, 1997 To: All RadioShack Stores From: RadioShack Communications Subject: URGENT PRODUCT NOTIFICATION Memo Id: 8216 IMMEDIATE ATTENTION The Arkansas Police have declared that is is illegal to own, use, or possess RSU product #11265113, a fully assembled descrambler/scrambler, in the State of Arkansas. Tandy Corporation's legal department is researching this and the product has been removed from RSU distribution. DO NOT take order or sell this product until this situation can be resolved. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1 if by land, 2 if by sea. Paul Revere - encryption 1775 Charles R. Smith SOFTWAR http://www.us.net/softwar Pcyphered signature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Re: Homo/bi/sexuals Most Destructive
by Scottauge＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

God must look kindly on lesbians then, eh? Statistical evidence is there, hence that must be the truth.... In a message dated 97-01-16 08:33:21 EST, you write: > An excellent Article here, pointing out why everybody should > shun homosexuals to be safe and healthy. > > On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote: > > > When it comes to AIDS, unless there are facts to invalidate the following > > information, it is evident that the homo/bi/sexual lifestyle is > > overwhelmingly the most destructive among those listed: > > > > "Who Are The Patients? > > "In the United States, homosexual and bisexual males make up > > approximately 62 percent of the total patients. The other major group > > afflicted with AIDS are intravenous drug abusers -- both men and women -- > > who constitute 20 percent of the total. . . ." > > > > "ADULTS AND ADOLESCENTS WITH AIDS, 1981-87 > > ================================== Males % Females % Both sexes % > > Homosexual/bisexual males 50,325 68 0 50,325 62 > > Intravenous (IV) drug abusers 12,529 17 3,622 52 16,151 20 > > Homosexual male an IV drug abusers 5,874 8 5,874 7 > > Hemophilia/coagulation disorder 751 1 22 0 773 1 > > Heterosexuals 1,516 2 2,073 30 3,589 4 > > Blood transfusion 1,297 2 747 11 2,044 3 > > Undetermined (1) 2,143 3 519 7 2,662 3 > > TOTAL 74,435 91 6,983 9 81,418 100 > > ========================================================================= > > "Note: Provisional data. Cases with more than one risk factor than the > > combinations listed are tabulated only in the category listed first. > > (1) Includes patients on whom risk information is incomplete, patients > > still under investigation, men reported only to have had heterosexual > > contact with a prostitute, and patients for whom no specific risk was > > identified; also includes one health care worker who developed AIDS after > > a documented needle-stick to blood. Source: Centers for Disease Control." > > ========================================================================= > > Cited in "The Universal Almanac 1990", Andrews and McMeel, 1989. > > ========================================================================= > > > > Readers are invited to post data supporting or opposing the above. > > > > Jai Maharaj > > jai(a)mantra.com > > Om Shanti > > > >

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Re: It's a great new year! telemarketers and solicitors
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On or About 16 Jan 97 at 9:03, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > "Ross Wright" <rwright(a)adnetsol.com> writes: > > > > Yeah, if everyone keeps crying and whining about "too much spam" > > "too much information freely available" Then that's just what > > will happen. Keep the Government out of the Internet!!!!!! > > Keep homosexual censorship out of the Internet! Yeah, That too! Ross =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906

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Re: ARKANSAS BANS PHONE SCRAMBLERS
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>It figures. It's Fuehrer Clinton's home state, isn't it? > >Somedays, this shit just makes me want to give up on the USA, and >emigrate to Anguila. > Have you spent time in Anguila? I have. As a visitor its a very safe, friendly, family-oriented society. But as a resident the picture is somewhat different due to a certain cliqish-ness and small-country mentality (e.g., the exclusive arrangement of Cable & Wireless). Don't get me wrong I love the place. It certainly a world apart from St. Martin/Sint Maarten only 8 miles distant. >-jcr > >begin forwarded message: > >Date: January 15, 1997 >To: All RadioShack Stores >From: RadioShack Communications >Subject: URGENT PRODUCT NOTIFICATION >Memo Id: 8216 > >IMMEDIATE ATTENTION >The Arkansas Police have declared that is is illegal to own, use, or >possess RSU product #11265113, a fully assembled >descrambler/scrambler, in the State of Arkansas. Tandy Corporation's >legal department is researching this and the product has been removed >from RSU distribution. DO NOT take order or sell this product until >this situation can be resolved. > I'm sure this represents an interference in interstate commerce and won't stand up in court.

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Re: Newt's phone calls
by gtaylor＠gil.com.au 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

After following this thread for some time, I have to question whether Americans realise how far behind the rest of the world they are in cellphone technology. Most of the world has been using GSM digital technology for some years now, with automatic international roaming, unless you travel to the USA. No one in their right mind uses an analogue mobile phone any more if they are concerned about eavesdropping. The Newt incident simply could not happen with GSM. Of course in most countries the government controls the federal police, not the other way round. Greg Brisbane Australia

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Re: A Special Offer!
by Bill Rockefeller 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The 'A special offer' posting was fraudulent, and from UUNet, not from the NetWizards domain, or NetWizards newsservers. If you'll examine the headers in the message, you will find this to be true. If you'd like to complain, please contact the UUNet Administration. This is the second spam this lamer has posted, and the only person he's hurting is himself, and users of Usenet. Dozer (aka Bill Rockefeller) is the System Administrator at NetWizards, and does NOT approve of spam in any way, shape or form. All of these schemes are illegal, and a waste of time. Get a job, work for a living. :) For more information on the REAL Dozer (not the SPAMMER), feel free to drop by his homepage, at http://www.dozer.com, and look under Dozer's section. Dozer also runs the Mustang 5.0 Mailing list for the Internet, if you have a Modified Mustang 5.0, or are interested in them, email 50ml(a)netwiz.net. We apologize for any confusion the poor misguided soul that posted the fraudulent message may have caused. :) Note: Mailbombing this address is quite useless. It filters all mailbombs, etc, and has unlimited space.

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Returned mail: User unknown
by MAILER-DAEMON＠brute.hway.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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