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Re: wealth and property rights
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Adam Back wrote: >> >> Steve Boursy writes: >> >>> That's a fair question. I don't begrude one's ownership of their >>> fair share--but I do have serious problems with what we shall >>> call 'accumulators' if you will. For them I have contempt and no-- >>> they do not have that right of possession and often such 'work' is >>> at the expense and on the backs of others. >> >> I'm an accululator :-) >> >> The investments I have I worked for. > > Well of course you have--but the majority of people >in the world that are poor have worked just as hard >and do not derive the same benefits--that needs to >be changed. > > <clip> > >> See, if you spend your money now, on the above, you have no right to >> criticize me when I look relatively wealthy later. It's your choice >> to blow your money. > > > I agree--that's not what I was talking about--the majority of wealth >is handed down not earned--and the ability to earn also more often >than not results in hand me down priv. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who was successful at getting the practice of primo geniture outlawed in Virginia (it was later adopted by all the other states). He believed in a 'meritocracy' or sorts and abhored any practice which would create a merchant or political aristocracy in the new Republic. Unfortunately much of his wisdom was ignored (e.g. objection to a central bank, and the forbidding of one generation to indebt another) and we suffer the consequences to this day. > > >> Btw, people of your mentality (communists/socialists) already make it >> very difficult for me to accumulate, > > We do our best--some day we'll take it all away--really. > > Steve

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COREL TO CENSOR ALL CLIP ART WORLDWIDE
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Swastikas halt Corel sales By Reuters November 25, 1996, 12 p.m. PT MUNICH, Germany--Corel (COSFF) software company has temporarily halted sales of its top-selling Corel Draw graphics program in Germany because it includes four banned Nazi symbols, a company spokesman said today. The Canadian company will remove three drawings of Adolf Hitler and one swastika from future versions of its popular software, spokesman Thomas Layer said. It is also distributing warning labels to be placed on versions now being sold, Layer said. The label warns that the "improper use of digital images and symbols" found in the programs Corel Draw 4.0, 5.0, and 6.0 is prohibited in Germany, which bans public displays of Nazi symbols. Munich's state prosecutor launched an investigation into the software on October 2 after learning that someone had used the banned images to print business cards for a neo-Nazi group, Layer said. This is not the first time that the company has had complaints due to their clip art images. In 1992, pressure from US Black rights organisations forced drawings of the Ku Kux Klan to be removed from the collection. Consideration is also being given to the removal of other images from the collection, either due to legal restrictions in various countries, or due to complaints from organisations such as the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Images considered for removal include a burning US flag, Josef Stalin, the Star of David icon, a cannabis leaf, and a drawing of a woman in a bathing costume. Corel Draw provides more than 24,000 clip art drawings and symbols that computer users can copy. The company suspended the sales on November 19.

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REMINDER: C2Net Party: January 24th
by sameer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.c2.net/party/ C2NET is having a party January 24th at 654 Mission St. San Francisco assorted snacks, a cash bar and live music by WEIRD BLINKING LIGHTS with dj accompaniment by DJ FLINT and DJ PINNIPED will be present for your enjoyment Festivities begin at 8PM We hope to see you there --- Directions: >From the West or North: Take Oak Street East. Turn left on Laguna. Turn right on Fell. Fell crosses Market and becomes 10th Street. Merge left within one block of Market. Turn left on Mission. >From the East: Take Hwy 80 West across the Bay Bridge. Take the first exit on the left (Harrison Street exit) Turn left on Harrison. Turn right on 3rd Street. Turn right on Mission. >From the South: Take Hwy 280 North. Follow 280 to its end at 4th & King Streets. Follow King Street to its end at 3rd Street. Turn left on 3rd. Turn right on Mission. >From BART: Take BART to the Montgomery station Walk south on New Montgomery Street Turn right on Mission. Parking: There is a commercial parking lot across the street on Mission and another one on the corner of 3rd and Mission.

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NEW RELEASE: Universal Data Cryptography Module V2.0
by DataETRsch＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello, Greetings! I am Jeremy K. Yu-Ramos, president of DataET Research, Data Engineering Technologies. I am sending you this message to let you know that DataET Research has recently initiated the distribution of UDCM, Universal Data Cryptography Module. UDCM implements a revolutionarily new, extremely advanced and sophisticated, digital data encryption algorithm named IMDMP, Integrated Mathematical Data Manipulation and Positioning. Extensive research shows that IMDMP is more advanced than DES, RSA, IDEA, and PGP. UDCM (the IMDMP algorithm)... o Is a royalty-free Windows DLL module featuring advanced cryptography. o Contains more than 140 procedures and functions. o Is a very cost-effective size of only 57 kilobytes. o Implements the IMDMP encryption algorithm. o Is more advanced than all of the industry standard encryption algorithms. o Allows encryption keys as large as 256 bytes (2048 bits). o Includes 18 sub-algorithms. o Processes all forms of binary and ASCII files. o Allows multiple encryption layer levels. o Has absolutely no back-doors or magical keys. o Does not store encryption keys in files. o Processes files as large as 2,147,483,390 bytes. o Has a 100% data preservation rating. o Includes Y2K compliant time and date locking features. o Has NCSC compliant data cleaning and wiping capabilities. o Includes file specific unique encryption features. o Includes file authentication guard features. o Includes unique encryption signaturing features. o Includes data importance and sensitivity stamping features. UDCM can be accessed through programs developed with popular application and database programming languages and environments such as: C, C++, Visual Basic, PowerBuilder, Delphi, OOP Pascal, Turbo Pascal, SmallTalk, dBase, Paradox, Access, Sybase, Oracle, etc. DataET Research has released a shareware version of UDCM named UDCM V2.0. To download UDCM V2.0 for free, please go to: http://members.aol.com/dataetrsch/udcm.html. I hope you will consider applying UDCM in the software you develop. Thank-you very much for your time. Sincerely, Jeremy K.Yu-Ramos President DataET Research Data Engineering Technologies

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SafePassage
by Ares GodOfWar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

does anyone happen to have a copy of safepassage, the web proxy layin around??? i am in a big bind & i need it ;]

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Espial
by bneiman＠navix.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Is this true?
by remove＠opportunity1.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: About ICF(International Cryptography Framework)
by Pass me another! 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Young wrote: > > Here are two docs on ICF which might be helpful: > > http://jya.com/halicf.htm (Hal Finney's critique posted to c'punks) > > http://jya.com/declan.htm (news reports) > > John Thanks a ton...I appreciate it...I checked them out. They say that this tech may not be available for some time...however, I feel that may not be necessarily true...tech is coming and going much faster these days and according to Ray Bamford's stance at HP, he seems to think that this may soon(within the next year) become a viable reality. Can I ask what your stance and views are on this issue? And any ideas as to what we as a community can do about this NAZI-istic progression of freedoms?? -spanky

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About ICF(International Cryptography Framework)
by Starr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has anyone heard anything or been paying attention to the development of the ICF(International Cryptography Framework) standard. This seems to be an attempt of the US Gov and a FEW of our favorite corps to completely control cryptography standards as well as to have the keys to all cryptographical content. The only information I've found so far is on HP's website http://www.dmo.hp.com/gsy/security/icf/main.html I've also managed to get a hold of Ray Bamford (ray_bamford(a)hp.com)at HP who seems to have some PR role in this wool over the eyes attempt. It seems to be just another (souped-up, in disguise attempt at the clipper chip except on an International basis). When I spoke to him he told me that the only information that has been issued is what you seen in the technical paper, and that the info they have is extremely exclusive, even if you are a legitimate company working on cryptography issues, etc. Check it out...I would definitely like to hear your opinions as well as if any of you have more information on this subject(newsgroups, mail lists, etc). -spanky

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by sls123＠prodigy.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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