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RE: Warrantless searches -- Sorry to start this again....
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-> Well, for one thing, if the drugs they are dealing were not illegal, there would be no high-anxiety drug deals going on in the apartments. tw <- And if the government housing projects weren't there....

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Re: Warrentlesss SEarches (fwd)
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-> Thanks for your perspective. I have imagined that if I found it necessary to live in such a place that I might favor choosing a building with some sort of covenant, explicitly agreed to by all tenants, that allowed searches for weapons. I take it that you would not find that to be a good idea. Do you have other ideas along such lines? <- I'm in the process of looking further, but the legality of this covenant is questionable.

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Re: The un-BBS (minor corrections)
by Sameer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Timothy C. May spake: > > > Gad, I see I made several mistakes in one paragraph: > > > I support Mike's belief that some sort of Internet II is needed. It'll > > be hard to duplicate the spectacular sense of the Internet, and almost > > certainly happen because of "planning." > > A better version: > > I support Mike Ingle's belief that some sort of Internet II is needed. > It'll be hard to duplicate the spectacular *succeess* of the Internet, > and almost *not* certainly happen because of "planning." > > One of my dreams is to be running/a-part-of my own backbone.. but not a backbone in the current hierarchal organization, but more of a web. . . each site connected to about 3-4 other sites (relatively local.. maybe in neighboring regions of the country) with highspeed links, and decentralized.. The net may be decentralized, but not decentralized enough. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLbtSbHi7eNFdXppdAQFKwgP/UWkK8eaeY4IudsG/IDr6BfpOUoN6w/5z hzcWea6ro/rUowZDhrn2/npoai4MJqsiiwT6ZX7Ibz3I2UJP5gYgT6qjLa6dpBBf 0XtCZEBSK/Qi+RMU0iUyK7Yu23LZlSA5wLZ1ZPboZhC530+d8Yg+O7MUb1+0ZaDF ddOmEwBBRt4= =ltT8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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CU Crypto Session Sat
by Jeff Davis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- If old Sam gets his butt in gear, I should have a tape of the crypto session in Boulder yesterday to transcribe. Here's a brief report of the doings. Dr. Dorthy Denning of Georgetown University presented the escrowed encryption proposal. She was talking Boy Scouts and telephones, teaching kindergarten. Escrowed encryption was heinously soft peddled by Denning. The ramifications of escrowed encryption privacy violations by the intelligence communities was avoided during the initial presentation. She assured everyone that the FBI, with probable cause, would get a court order for the escrowed keys from NIST and DoJ. Rebutting was Phil Zimmerman, who was applauded when introduced as being under criminal investigation. Phil talked civil liberties, and some of the uses PGP was finding in countries not nearly as free from gov't intrusion as the United States. Phil brought up the point that intelligence agencies do not play by the same rules as the DoJ and FBI. Ken Klingenstein, CU director of comp. networking services, brought up the most interesting news to me. His perception of the DoD people he was in contact with was that they considered the escrowed encryption quagmire an NSA problem and were providing Klingenstein with helpful information. Denning had been nervous through out her presentation and response to the rebuttals of Phil and Ken. Again she avoided the issue of intelligence community intrusion, focusing on organized crime. I spoke to Denning briefly after the session. Eli Nixon, an investigator for the Zimmerman defense, and I proposed legalization for the drug problem. Denning sugested that organized crime would move into new territory in such an event. Slavery. (I found that rather anti-climactic after her dramatic measured pause for effect). Denning mentioned terrorists. I rebutted with satellite surviellance. I pointed out that we could read a poker hand via computer enhancement. This visibly shook her. Escrowed encryption is completely unnecessary, and she had no rebuttal for this. My information on satellite resolution came from a physicist who worked at JPL. I shook Dr. Denning's hand and wished her luck. She either reads everything I post, or was briefed beforehand. She was quite familiar with me. She couldn't believe I would discuss classified information on satellite resolution in casual conversation. The USAF hand in attendance was as smooth as sandpaper as well. As soon as I mentioned SDI, he shot over to evesdrop on the conversation I was having with Eli Nixon, et al. All and all, a fun time in Boulder. e -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLbtGUl/ScHuGXWgVAQHlkAQAwl7sAz32H/zNxDUsPsy+LLEvGUCVScXY Zwr1oGpBqNYPVzDve46CvsissDpTH08MmQelfc+zwmdCjRP6sVzgNILhlsyLihTB Qfjh48sj40ESZnbJtj81k11SSaIBJJpDvlVsEWn4RDiP5aDgRnCKQ8hGxUZmGcCG q6dWYoH3DCc= =nGJZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- PGP PUBLIC KEY via finger! JAFEFFM Speaking & Thinking For Myself! * eagle(a)deeptht.armory.com email info(a)eff.org * *** O U T L A W S On The E L E C T R O N I C F R O N T I E R **** ***** Committed to Free Public Internet Access for World Peace *****

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mutual interest
by joshua geller 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

you four will probably recall that I have just entered and left your encrypted channel on IRC. this message is crossposted to the cypherpunks mailing list; I, and I am sure other members of this list would be interested in the details of your encryption scheme, if any of you are willing to share. regards, josh

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interesting post...
by Ed Carp 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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the hh remailer (remailer@soda)
by Eric Hollander 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

i have added a feature to my remailer allowing a secure path to and from the remailer, for both posting (mailing) and replies. this code will be made available soon, so hopefully people will start running more of these remailers. this is excerpted from the instructions. have fun. ------- = Encrypted remail requests Like most of the traditional cypherpunks remailers, this remailer allows encrypted remail requests. To use this feature, create a file that looks like this: :: Anon-Post-To: rec.fish Subject: fillet of fish I like trout fillet... Then encrypt this file with the remailer's public key. remailer(a)soda.berkeley.edu's key is: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQBNAi27mNAAAAECAONCUi/9jdl0SXGhOhT4Vvgl9uOYLgbOjU5kMXEkpFQriCYC hWfNuhH8zESs9DFTMHCXUsXYrkkm/bHdhGheaHUABRO0LlRvbW15IHRoZSBUb3Vy aXN0IDxyZW1haWxlckBzb2RhLmJlcmtlbGV5LmVkdT4= =aoJM -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Then, send your message to remailer@soda, like this: To: remailer@soda Subject: this line is ignored :: Encrypted: PGP [your encrypted file here] The remailer will decrypt it and post it to the appropriate group. This feature also works with Anon-Send-To:. = Encrypted response This feature provides a level of security beyond that of almost any other remailer which is capable of response to anonymous messages. To use this feature, first choose a passphrase. This phrase will be used to encrypt messages sent back to you. The encryption will be single-key (IDEA) encryption, not PGP's normal public-private key encryption. The reason for this is that public key encryption is actually uneccessary in this use, and single-key encryption with this protocol does not require a database (such as anon.penet.fi's database mapping aliases onto addresses) increasing the security of anonymous users. To use this feature, create a file like this, where your-pass-phrase is the phrase you have selected: :: Anon-Post-To: rec.fish Subject: fillet of sole User-Key: your-pass-phrase I like it when they cook fish like this... Then, encrypt this file with the remailer's public key, and send it in as above. When a user responds to your post (or mail), his response will be encrypted with your-pass-phrase. You can read his response by saving it to a file and using PGP on it. PGP will ask you for a passphrase; enter yours, and you will see his response to your post (or mail). This feature allows both your posts, and the responses to your posts, to be securely encrypted, protecting your privacy in both directions. = Traffic Analysis This remailer is designed to ensure that mail does not go out in the order it is received in, to make it more difficult to link a sender to a recipient by looking at mail logs. This means that there will be some random delay in your mail and your postings.

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taming the wild pgp
by vkisosza＠acs.ucalgary.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

While I can't say that I know a darn thing about pgp, try (from the documentation) pgp ciphertextfile [-o plaintextfile]

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Help in Albuquerque
by Whitney, Mara 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear Cypherpunks,, I have a native american activist friend, who lives near Albuquerque, and who is currently not connected to the net. He wishes to find information about net connectivity and also has concerns about privacy of electronic communication. Is there anyone out there who can assist? Thank you very much, Mara Whitney (maraw(a)fs-gate.uchicago.edu)

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taming the wild pgp
by Matt Thomlinson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I don't see a huge problem here with keys being added, unless someone starts sending the keyserver's databases to the remailers in an effort to crash them. I can only think of one way around it -- recompiling with the key-adding procedure commented out (at least for the version the remailer uses). If you need to add keys, use the version you've already compiled. Matt Thomlinson University of Washington, Seattle, Washington. phone: (206) 548-9804 Check my home page -- ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/phantom/home.html PGP 2.2 key available via email, or finger phantom(a)hardy.u.washington.edu

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