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Re: Netscape
by Dan Weinstein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 22 Jul 96 at 8:38, you wrote: > I don't know why you're quoting your own licensing agreement to me. > When I said, "you need no permission to provide these products," by > "you" I was referring to your company, Netscape. As in, you don't > need the NSA's permission to write and sell good crypto > domestically, even if (arguably) they can limit export. I missed what you meant, it was late and I was thinking you were refering to RE-distribution by those that downloaded it. You also have made an error, I am not associated with Netscape. Dan Weinstein djw(a)vplus.com http://www.vplus.com/~djw PGP public key is available from my Home Page. All opinions expressed above are mine. "I understand by 'freedom of Spirit' something quite definite - the unconditional will to say No, where it is dangerous to say No. Friedrich Nietzsche

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Re: pledge status
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

* Carbons sent to: In: alanh(a)infi.net -=> Quoting In:alanh@infi.net to Harka <=- In> black-ninjas-pretending-that-they're-in-a-Hollywood-script thread After all these figure of speech comparisons of federal agents with 'ninja's' I think it's noteworthy, that the ninja's of old were a counterculture themselves. In fact, they were despised by the ruling class (government) of the samurai as low-lifes and scum of the earth, because the ninjas families would not subdue themselves to 'codes of honor' like the samurai and also practiced different religions (Buddhism) The samurai in turn tried to eliminate the ninja's by outlawing the use of weapons, repressing religious freedom and even invading the ninja's 'heartland' of the province of IGA. Nevertheless, the subsequent elimination of rights for ninja's led to the opposite effect, the ruling samurai had hoped for: instead of being turned into defenseless kids, the ninja's were now free from any boundaries in terms of existing norms and were thus much more innovative and efficient than the samurai and their 'code of honor'. That enabled the ninja's eventually to survive all onslaughts and dangers to their culture until today. OBCrypto: They also used various cryptographic methods and systems to transport messages. Harka ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]

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Re: Opiated file systems
by Chris Adams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 20 Jul 96 14:46:12 -0800, ceridwyn(a)wolfenet.com wrote: >>BTW, I'd try a fiber-optic connector to the machine because 1) it's > >Do you know anything about where to find info. on connecting drives >(IDE or SCSI) with fiber? I'm very interested in this possibility, >but need to research further. I'd like to home-build a system, but >any info on current products would also be helpful. One, you could probably replace the wires with fiber/xmitter pairs. However, this would probably screw your timings to hell - SCSI probably wouldn't work. OTOH, it's possible that with a careful enough job and some decent components you could pull it off. It would be incredibly wasteful, though, as you would need 40+ fibers to do the job of one... I'd find some network cards that support fiber and breadboard a little system together. Possibly, you could find a hookup that would work off the shelf - look for sources for embedded systems. For instance, at least Novell's networks have embedded system support. I recall a DDJ that had someone wire up a coffemaker as a network controlled device, so I doubt you'd need a PC. As I recall, he had a single chip ethernet device. Now, this was for regular ethernet, but I'd assume you could connect a fiber based ethernet over with some sort of adapter. Search for the article at http://www.ddj.com - if you can't find it there, drop me a note. // Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> - Webpages for sale! Se habla JavaScript! // Automatically receive my resume or PGPKEY by sending email with a subject // of 'send PGPKEY' or 'send resume'. Capitalization counts so be careful!

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Brute-forcing DES
by Steve Reid 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Any one up for a distributed brute force attack on single DES? My > back-of-the-envelope calculations and guesstimates put this on the > hairy edge of doability (the critical factor is how many machines can > be recruited - a non-trivial cash prize would help). Count me in. I've got a couple of net-connected Pentiums that are mostly idle. Did you consider the possibility of DES chips in your back-of-the-envelope calculations? They are hundreds of times faster than PCs. I don't know where to get them or how much they cost, though. I would expect they wouldn't be too expensive. The cash might be better spent on DES chips than on a prize. Might be able to bring some money in by selling "I Helped Crack DES And All I Got Was This Lousy T-shirt" T-shirts. ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve(a)edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:)

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Re: No more stupid gun thread ...
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:24 AM 7/23/96, Ernest Hua wrote: >Ok. This thread has gone on long enough and covered just about every >point except the one which I originally made in my first response, >which is that I abhor the idea that kids should carry weapons (of any >sort) to school as standard equipment. In fact, I abhor the idea >that kids should carry weapons at school for any reason. > >Enough said. > >I do not care to discuss: > >1. Should kids have any weapons at any time? > >2. Should kids have guns (specifically guns)? > >3. Should kids know how to operate weapons of any sort? Fine, Ernest, then don't discuss these issues! I don't recall _anyone_ arguing the case for kids carrying guns to school. Several people commented on the training they received as children, the training they have given their own children, and their general views. Nothing about giving little 8-year-old Suzie an Uzi to carry to her 3rd-grade class. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced Ninja Raids (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:10:04 -0400 > From: Hallam-Baker <hallam(a)ai.mit.edu> > Subject: Re: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced Ninja Raids > > The "laws" of social scienst are not the "laws of physics". The "laws > of physics" aren't so constant either. Theoretical results should > inform the intellect not serve as a substitute for it. The laws of social science are the consequence of the laws of physics. One of the primary, if not the primary, assumption of Physics is that natural laws are isotropic and homogeneous. If they are not then we are all in deep deep trouble (Vinge not withstanding). The relationship between the laws of social science and physics is analgous to the relationship between the base pairs in DNA and the concept of a gene. There is a distinct difference in the nature but the latter can not exist without the former. > If you apply genetic programming techniques to the system the strategy > that evolves is typically a cooperative one. The facts is that the > theory applied in an evolutionary context disproves Perry. One of the primary observations about genetic programming is that the max you get is best considered local and 'good enough', not optimal. An argument based on genetic programming must admit prima facia that there is the potential for a better answer. Jim Choate

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Canada investigating Net-regulations -- call CBC-Radio now!
by declan＠well.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[David Jones is the head of EF-Canada. Call CBC Radio with your comments now! (I did, and left them on the voice mailbox that Morning Edition graciously provided.) --Declan] >Return-Path: <efc-talk-owner(a)insight.mcmaster.ca> >Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 11:55:41 EDT >From: djones(a)insight.mcmaster.ca (David Jones) >To: efc-talk(a)insight.mcmaster.ca >Subject: call CBC with your thoughts on BC Attorney General's remarks >Sender: efc-talk-owner(a)insight.mcmaster.ca >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: djones(a)insight.mcmaster.ca (David Jones) >X-Efc-Web-Site: http://www.efc.ca >X-Efc-Archive: gopher://insight.mcmaster.ca/11/org/efc > > Murmurings about Internet regulation in British Columbia > >I just finished a very brief interview on CBC-Radio in Vancouver. >They called asking for a comment on the BC Attorney General's >statement that he has instructed his ministry to investigate whether >the Internet can be regulated. The reason this is in the news >is because of the so-called "white power" and "hate" web pages that >are now available through a BC Internet Service Provider (Fairview Tech), >after being kicked off an Ontario ISP's computers (Pathyway Communications). > > >I hadn't had my morning coffee, so perhaps you can be more articulate >on this issue that I was. I encourage you to call the CBC-Radio's >"talk-back lines" at (604) 662-6976 -- they are inviting comments >on this issue. Seriously, if you don't want the BC Attorney General >to regulate the Internet, speak now or forever hold your peace. > > >Background (from Vancouver Sun) > > B.C. Internet provider is the largest Canadian site for racist material > gopher://insight.mcmaster.ca/00/org/efc/media/vancouver-sun.19jul96a > > Hate on Internet investigated > gopher://insight.mcmaster.ca/00/org/efc/media/vancouver-sun.19jul96b > > Don't expect easy solutions to cyberspace abuse > gopher://insight.mcmaster.ca/00/org/efc/media/times-colonist.14jul96 > > >See also: > > "Skin-Net" > http://www.ftcnet.com/~skinhds/main.htm > > "Freedom Site in Exile" > http://www.ftcnet.com/~freedom/ > > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >David Jones -- Electronic Frontier Canada >djones(a)efc.ca -- http://www.efc.ca/

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Re: Boobytraps and the American Legal System
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:13 PM 7/23/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >No, a better solution it seems to me is to dispose of the body so there is >only a "disappearance," with nothing to link the perp to one's self. >(Unless the perp left records or told someone...) > >My place is pretty isolated, so I wonder if my proposed solution is enough: >process with my 10 h.p Troy-Bilt chipper/shredder, treat output with 2 >sacks of quicklime, hose resulting product into ravine dropping down to >valley floor below. (Probably too much DNA-carrying crud left around, Contrary to all the old stories, quicklime (calcium hydroxide) actually PRESERVES bodies, it doesn't assist their decomposition. (It probably inhibits bacteria growth by raising pH, yet its alkalinity doesn't attack the organic material.) What you want is a few gallons of concentrated sulfuric acid, which will hydrolyze the fats, the proteins, dissolve the calcium in the bones, as well as erase any traces of DNA left in the mixture. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Giving 6 year old kids Uzi's (Was: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced NinjaRaids)
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:01 7/22/96, Ernest Hua wrote: >You might be missing the mark too, but I thought the subject was >giving a gun to every child who enters school, not YOURs or SOME >EXPERT 6 YEAR OLD's special case. There is *nothing* that should be given to every child or every adult for that matter. I very much oppose the use of my tax dollars to issue guns or school books to children. Let the parents buy the items required for the children's safety or education. [We are straying away from crypto...] -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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Re: Home Made Telephone Voice Changer
by John Deters 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Jerome Tan wrote: > Does anyone know how to make a home-made telephone voice changer? Well, if you've got your sound card in your computer, if you download Speak Freely (from http://www.fourmilab.ch) and simultaneously turn on LPC-10 compression along with simple compression, I've found my voice comes out more like Robbie the Robot than John Deters. It's an interesting feature of the LPC-10 compression that as it removes redundancy from the transmission that it removes the "human identity" from it as well. There's got to be a moral to that story somewhere (especially since the NSA developed the LPC-10 algorithm). John -- J. Deters "Captain's log, stardate 25970-point-5. I am nailed to the hull." +-------------------------------------------------------+ | NET: jad(a)dsddhc.com (work) jad(a)pclink.com (home) | | PSTN: 1 612 375 3116 (work) 1 612 894 8507 (home) | | ICBM: 44^58'33"N by 93^16'42"W Elev. ~=290m (work) | | PGP Key ID: 768 / 15FFA875 | +-------------------------------------------------------+

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