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Re: 2nd RFD: sci.chem.organic.synthesis moderated
by Igor Chudov ＠ home 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Koen Van Aken (cheakv(a)panther.gsu.edu) wrote in <861165888.2842(a)isc.org>: * * At the end of each article, a full name and e-mail address is * mandatory. Listing of position and association is optional but * strongly encouraged. ... snip ... * CHARTER: sci.chem.organic.synthesis * This proposal is pro moderation to filter out unwanted (see not * permitted postings) and 'anonymous' (see signature policy) messages. * Although there are some disadvantages associated with moderated * groups - some people compare it with censorship and it slows down * the discussion - , sci.* groups have been plagued before with off- * topic discussions which eventually turned users away. I fail to see any reason why you need to filter out "anonymous" email. I think that restricting anonymous email goes a long way against ability to discuss important issues in general. I find it overly restrictive and unwarranted. Your explanation as to why you find it necessary to exclude anonymous postings from your particular newsgroup will be much appreciated. igor

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Re: SEVERE undercapacity, we need more remailers
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It occurs to me that a certain number of companies have schemes that could easily be used to set up anonymous, transient mailing output ends on anonymous remailers. These are AOL (with its famed lack of true credit card verification) and free email services such as Juno. The idea would be to have a remailer address that took in mailings, then sent any that were to go other than to another remailer via a temporary account. Now, this would have the potential problem of decreasing remailer reputation among those in such companies; for AOL, it would also decrease the chance of anyone paying attention to the remailed messages (people deleting stuff from @aol.com automatically, etcetera). -Allen

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The Ethics of Electronic Information
by Les Pourciau at UMem 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

******WITH ALL APOLOGIES FOR POSTING TO MULTIPLE LISTS,****** ******PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY****** THE ETHICS OF ELECTRONIC INFORMATION IN THE 21st CENTURY September 26-28, 1997 Sponsored By: The University of Memphis Libraries The U of M Information systems The U of M Linder Center for Urban Journalism The U of M Division of Research and Graduate School The U of M Marcus Orr Center for the Humanities The U of M Cecil C. Humphreys School of Law The U of M Fogelman College of Business and Economics CONFERENCE VENUE Fogelman Executive Center, The University of Memphis, Memphis TN, U.S.A. http://www.people.memphis.edu/~operations/fec_list.htmlx Additional Memphis Web Site: http://www.memphistravel.com THE ELECTRONIC INFORMATION ISSUE Recently historian Neil Postman warned against the naive belief that information is "an unmixed blessing, which through its continued and uncontrolled production and dissemination offers increased freedom, creativity, and peace of mind" (1992, p. 71*). Indeed, information and information technology raise a host of difficult issues: Who will be authorized to have access to the plethora of information that is generated by computers in the 21st century? Will privacy, that most revered of American values, be passe, given the power of computers and the invasiveness of information bureaucracy and technology? Will the possession of information mean riches for the possessors, and will those possessors of information inevitably be the rich nations and neighborhoods of the earth? Who will own information, and who will be barred from access to information? How will copyright be administered on the Internet? These are only a few of the myriad of questions and concerns that occur to practitioners in a variety of professional fields. *Neil Postman, 1992. TECHNOPOLY: THE SURRENDER OF CULTURE TO TECHNOLOGY, New York, Vintage Books, 1992. CALL FOR PAPERS The Symposium Planning Committee seeks original research and application oriented papers, not previously presented elsewhere, which address questions about ethical considerations attendant to the forthcoming Information Age. You are invited to submit an abstract of a proposed paper for consideration by the Review Committee. Alternative modes of presentation, e.g., panel discussions, case studies, will be considered. The deadline for receipt of proposals is April 25, 1997. The following guidelines should be observed in the preparation and submission of your abstracts: 1. The abstract should be a precis of your paper and should be between 1000 and 1,500 words in length. 2. The heading should include the title of your paper, followed by the name(s) and affiliation(s) of the author(s), and the name, address, FAX number, and email address of the author who will present the paper at the Symposium. 3. 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Re: Senator Leahy, your public key please?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Senator Leahy is the first member of Congress to publicize a PGP key. (There are already fake keys for Bill and Hillary Clinton and Al Gore.) A Washington-area Cypherpunk recently visited Senator Leahy's office and asked if he could verify that the PGP key posted to the net for Senator Leahy was correct*, so he could sign it; while it would be difficult to fake responses to the "PGP Public Key" entry on his web page, it could be done, and a fake key could be publicized in other ways. He was told that there's some Congressional silliness about the issue - what's the political implication of having someone sign your key? Postmaster(a)senate.gov is fine, but are there ethics questions if ACT UP, Big Oil or the Christian Coalition signs it, or if Newt Gingrich or your party's Majority Leader refuses to sign it - are those endorsements? Tim May pointed out that you don't _need_ anybody's permission to sign their key; just do it and send to the keyserver. Even if they don't like you. >What if, for example, Sen. Leahy _did_ end up in the web of trust for Aryan >Nation? Even if he never intended it, this could have some severe PR >repercussions. >An exciting new world we're entering. It's really hard to get handed a straight line like this and have to pass it up, but I'm _not_ going to create an Aryan Nations key, and I'm _not_ going to send it to keyserver(a)canopener.worms.mit.edu. Black Unicorn's experience at Senator Leahy's office implies there are too many clueless Congresscritters around who would recognize the political potential and make a Law to Do Something about it, just as Georgia recently made a law against making links to people's web sites without their permission. While the Republicans in Congress, having somehow found themselves on the side of Free Speech with Leahy against Clinton's administration, may be able to pass laws reducing the government's encryption-export and wiretapping efforts, a good scare like this could make it more difficult. Sigh. :-) I haven't Cc:d this to Leahy - Should I? Meanwhile, what should we do about PGP key signatures? PGP 3.x is still being developed, and keyservers can be updates as needed. While I agree that keyservers don't need to validate keys - that's a job for the web of trust, and the keyserver-admin could sign keys if he/she/it wanted to - it may make sense for the keyservers to only accept keys in messages signed by the key itself. (Just signing the key doesn't help much here; you need to sign the key-plus-signatures.) Does it make sense to include some similar capability in PGP itself? Leahy has at least signed his own key... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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IP: Chinese Govt Bans Controversial Clinton Book
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Chinese Govt Bans Controversial Clinton Book Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:16:35 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: US Newswire http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/0929-126.txt PRIMA: Chinese Government Bans Controversial Clinton Book U.S. Newswire 29 Sep 15:06 PRIMA Publishing: Chinese Government Bans Controversial Clinton Book To: National Desk Contact: Diana Banister of Craig Shirley & Associates, 800-536-5920, pager: 703-816-9368 WASHINGTON, Sept. 29 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was released today by Prima Publishing: Chinese authorities have refused to allow three publishing houses to translate a new book -- "The Clinton Syndrome, The President and the Self-Destructive Nature of Sexual Addiction" by California-based Prima Publishing. The book takes a clinical look at the life and behavior of Bill Clinton and explains why the president would risk his presidency for a sexual relationship with an intern. "We have been told that the Chinese government does not want to make a book of this kind available in China because they consider it unfavorable to President Clinton," says Robin Taylor, rights associate at Prima Publishing. "The Chinese authorities apparently don't understand why Americans treat their president just like any other person and allow citizens to write about their government leaders." In "The Clinton Syndrome," Jerome D. Levin, Ph.D., a psychotherapist, addictions specialist and professor, assesses the character of a man so driven by a sexual addiction that he would risk his presidency to fulfill a desperate need for reassurance and validation of his worth. Prima does not consider the Clinton Syndrome an "anti-Clinton" book. In fact, Dr. Levin voted for President Clinton twice and agrees with his policies. But he still believes the president is in serious need of help for a classic case of sexual addiction. "We work with foreign publishers around the world on numerous books," says Taylor. "Never have we had the subject matter of a book impede its publication in a foreign country. But I guess it's understandable when you consider the relationship between the Clinton administration and the current Chinese government." "The Clinton Syndrome," published by Prima Publishing of Rocklin, Calif., is available in bookstores nationwide. For more information or to schedule an interview with Dr. Jerome D. Levin or a Prima spokesman, please call Ciana Banister at 800-536-5920. -0- /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ 09/29 15:06 Copyright 1998, U.S. Newswire ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************

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Re: Libertarians and crypto and such
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(I was alerted to the fact that my post came out strangely formatted, so I'm re-sending hoping it looks better this time). --------------------------- A note on the arguments disintegrating into granular accusations & counter accusations: Some of you ought to realize that no matter what category of political/philosophical inclinations a person has, or deems themselves to have, or is deemed to have by others, they as individuals are still going to have their own peculiar perspective, their own version, of these views. Meaning, that it is not 100% predictable that *all* libertarians will think & do the same as all other so-called "libertarians". "Democrats" or "Republicans" or even "wiccans" will have their own variations on the same themes and disagree among themselves over what the most correct policy for action could be/should be/shall be. These labels for philosophical & political stands are really only general indicators of an individual's conclusions about worldy events or the direction in which they tend to orient their sympathies; when the "rubber meets the road" and real action or some real support is required, it can be quite surprising to see their actual responses to events. Whether one person or a like-minded group is aligned philosophically correctly (suitable to one's own preferences) or not, is info that is useful only for determining trends; no matter what combination of beliefs a particular group concocts into a world-view, it is still required of the individual person that they deal effectively with whatever threats arise in *their own* immediate Present, regardless of what anyone else did in the History of Mankind or what "those other groups" extol as being The Right Thing for All (tm). Aren't one's own actions more important and telling than any group affiliations? The ideals which motivate one to seek the use of encryption are very significant to the need to justify the use of it. The most valid ideals will relate to the real world in which we all actually work and play. And The Truth Which Does Not Go Away is the indispensable Fact of the Matter that when the NSA proposes to open your personal files you are going to want to prevent it, no matter what political party or program you claim to support the rest of the time. .. Blanc .. Blanc

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COMMERCE VISIONARY ERIC HUGHES TEAMS WITH FINANCE EXEC AND TECHNOLOGY ARCHITECT TO FORM TRANSACTION TECHNOLOGY COMPANY, SIMPLE ACCESS
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Looks like Hughes and Hilby have found some fresh meat. Given sac.net is currently in collection on nearly $100k (plus or minus lawyers' and collectors' fees) to former suppliers, contractors, and employees, it seems the greater fool theory of internet commerce is alive and well. Hope the new boys are holding on to their wallets. And their nuts. ReputationMunger --------- Media contact: Melody Kean Haller, Antenna Group, 415-896-1800, melody(a)antennapr.com COMMERCE VISIONARY ERIC HUGHES TEAMS WITH FINANCE EXEC AND TECHNOLOGY ARCHITECT TO FORM TRANSACTION TECHNOLOGY COMPANY, SIMPLE ACCESS San Francisco, CA -- March 24, 1997. The limits to growth facing today's commercial transaction systems are fundamental and unavoidable. Current architectures are not able to handle the complexity and auditing requirements of tomorrow, according to cryptographer, commerce visionary, and cypherpunks founder Eric Hughes. The solution is to build airtight accountability into the system from the start, according to Hughes, who has developed an infrastructure design methodology that solves this and several other crucial electronic commerce problems. Hughes today announced that he has formed a company, Simple Access, to build the next generation of transaction systems. He also announced two key additions to the executive team. John McArtor, currently President and CEO of Delta International, Inc., a private merchant bank, will lead Simple Access as chief executive officer. Dwight Koop, formerly executive vice-president of technology for Swiss Bank, will direct project development. Eric Hughes will continue as chief technology officer. "Eric Hughes has a deep and compelling vision of the future of electronic commerce," said Jerry Michalski, managing editor of Esther Dyson's monthly report, Release 1.0. "He understands the science of the Internet and security technologies, has insight into the systemic flow of commerce, and is informed by an overview of the socio-political history of money. The methodology he is proposing aims to enable a future in which transactions are undeniably clear. Anything Eric puts his energy into is worth paying attention to." Hughes said, "Currently, 'electronic commerce' is a euphemism for 'commerce that doesn't work,' or soon won't work on a large scale. In order to prevent disasters on the horizon and build a foundation for safer and better systems, Simple Access is thinking ahead and solving problems at the infrastructure level." "We are working with leading companies that require their suppliers to have solid and experienced managers, so we brought on proven leaders," Hughes continued. "McArtor and Koop meet and exceed those criteria." "With my 25 years of commercial and investment banking experience, I've worked with a lot of bright technologists, and these are some of the best," said CEO John McArtor. "I jumped at the opportunity to join them. The development team at Simple Access has an intimate knowledge of real-world business problems. They are addressing issues at the core of domestic and international finance, issues that are very important to me." Simple Access' Director of Software Development, Dwight Koop, said, "The technologies we are developing will address serious and immediate problems of large-scale commerce. These are elegant designs which can be applied especially well in high-stakes transaction systems to assure an unprecedented level of accountability, auditability and efficiency." Simple Access is in late-stage negotiations with several strategically chosen Fortune 100 companies in different realms of commerce. The company is now developing custom solutions, building on the widely usable transaction methodology that Hughes has developed. The company's current efforts include telephony and Internet provisioning and billing, international trade documents, and digital money. Eric Hughes is a cryptographer and an expert on payment systems and commercial interaction. He has consulted to banks, software companies, and payment processing firms, and frequently speaks on the subjects of security, digital money, and payment systems. He is also renowned as the co-founder of the cypherpunks. Hughes authored "A Long Term Perspective on Electronic Commerce," which comprised the March 1995 issue of Release 1.0. John W. McArtor is president and CEO of Delta International, Inc., a private merchant bank engaged in the business of creative corporate finance and capital management. Since 1972, Delta International has been designing, structuring, syndicating, and managing financial vehicles for private sector investment. McArtor's areas of expertise include the management of capital in domestic and global futures markets, and the creation of venture capital for the telecommunications industry. Dwight Koop was formerly executive vice-president of technology for Swiss Bank, one of the world's premier trading institutions. He will serve as acting director of software development with Simple Access, which will co-develop and co-market projects with New Logic, Inc., where Koop is a principal and practice director of intra/Internet systems development. Koop has more than twenty years of solid management and consulting background in all aspects of technology, with special expertise in creating competitive advantage in the financial industry. Headquartered in San Francisco, California, Simple Access is a technology firm that designs and builds infrastructure for finance, commerce, security, telephony, and the Internet. Simple Access develops solutions to facilitate and simplify interaction at the infrastructure level. The company's areas of expertise include payment systems, data security, cryptography, and transaction processing. The privately held company was founded in 1995. Simple Access is located at One Sutter Street, Suite 500, San Francisco, California 94104. To reach the company, phone 415-392-0526, fax 415-986-8113 or send email to info(a)sac.net. For media information please contact Melody Kean Haller, Antenna Group, 415-896-1800, or melody(a)antennapr.com.

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Re: Carrying the Bible an Offense?
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:31 PM 2/17/96 +0000, you wrote: >Is it not possible in the US jurisdictions to mount private >prosecutions? There is a common law right to do so in England. I'm not aware of a corresponding right in the US, and am pretty sure that none exists. The victim of a crime can likely sue civilly for whatever damages s/he suffered, and can sometimes also recover attorney's fees & punitive damages (e.g., RICO). But I'm not aware of any procedure by which a citizen could bring a real criminal prosecution, with the corresponding risk of incarceration for the defendant, court-appointed counsel for indigent defendants, and so forth. Some statutes (the ones which spring to mind immediately are environmental statutes) allow private citizens to sue to enforce compliance with the law, if the government has been given notice of the violation and has failed to bring its own action for enforcement; but I don't think that those are criminal prosecutions. (I think we're wandering away from anything on-topic for C-punks, so further comments from me on this thread, if any, will likely be in private mail.) -- "The anchored mind screwed into me by the psycho- | Greg Broiles lubricious thrust of heaven is the one that thinks | gbroiles(a)netbox.com every temptation, every desire, every inhibition." | -- Antonin Artaud |

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Re: A Cyberspace Independence Refutation
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jamesd(a)echeque.com said: > >j> 1. President Clinton declared CDA unconstitutional and directed >j> the Justice department to refrain from enforcing it. At 01:57 PM 2/16/96 -0600, Sten Drescher wrote: > Then why is the Justice Department defending it? Sorry: My error. As you pointed out he ruled *part* of the CDA unconstitutional -- a part that no one expected to be enforced anyway --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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